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Open Thread 9/25: Braves vs. Nationals

Atlanta Braves at Washington Nationals, Sep 25, 2011 1:35 PM EDT


Minor vs. Detwiler

  1. Bourn - CF
  2. Prado - LF
  3. Chipper - 3B
  4. Uggla - 2B
  5. Freeman - 1B
  6. Diaz - RF
  7. Ross - C
  8. Wilson - SS

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Just Win

that is all.

Let's Go Braves!!!

Really need a win today. Get it done

GO CUBS GO!!!!!

After yesterday I have NO faith in the Cubs
Marmol won't close today according to Quade

Hopefully they are in that position

Marmol is the only one I have no faith in

any one else see

that the phillies are playing there bullpen against us on Wednesday thats nice

we need to win win win no matter what !!!!
No Seabass again? Damn

GO BRAVES!

i really hope hes in tomorrow when we hopefully clinch

what is a saying in June I never thought I would hear

That is something I never thought I’d say

I agree with Ross over Mac today

I know Chopper and some others will as well

Can we please win today?

Kthxbai.

Looking forward to an awesome days of sports.

Braves and Broncos!

NFL Redzone Channel might possibly be the best invention of all time
You may be on to something
Beer disagrees with you.

 In the anals of history people are going to be talking about three things: the discovery of fire, invention of the submarine, and the Flint Michigan Mega Bowl

(snicker) he said anal…

I appear...

And I’m happy to see Ross getting the start.

Batting Prado 2nd is so fucking stupid. If we lose again, that's probably why.

He delivers lower in the order. What about this does Fredi not understand?

Like it matters…. Fredi has no clue what to do with guys on base, anyway.

At least he remembers Ross is alive.

Ross was going to get a start down the stretch
Very pleased to see him in there
What would be the ideal lineup in the playoffs?

Bourn L
Chipper S
Freeman L
Uggla R
McCann L
Prado R
Heyward L
Gonzalez R
Pitcher

?

that could work

you would want Mac 3rd, but Mac’s evil twin apparently did away with him/

Too bad Chipper doesn't want to bat 2nd
let's hold off on playoff rosterbation until we uh, make the playoffs.

I said “would be”, not “will be”….

why tempt fate? lol

My point is that I didn’t. Should I have thrown in a knocks on wood just to be safe?

since heyward is getting better maybe he or dare i say it gonzo could hit second

It didn’t take me a half hour to find the game on streaming radio this time!

God, I hate the Cardinals. I won't be relaxed until we knock those fuckers out.
mccann is some kind of bad right now. it's sad really. hope he figures it out soon. he's been totally different since DL

I’m literally shocked he’s not in there today.

I’m not. like I said I knew Ross would get a start. today was a good day to give to Ross

There have been a couple of recent starts where it was “a good day” to have Ross in there. day starts, etc.

true

but MacCann wasn’t going to play all the rest of the games. giving him off today makes more sense than against the phillies.

If Ross hits today, I would let him start tomorrow, too.

he needs glasses again
In the last 31 playoff years dating back to 79

only 3 teams have failed to win a league pennant. Name them.

Pirates
Nats/Expos
……………

Mariners
Nationals/Expos
Cubs

Correctomundo.

Awesome

Now where’s my million-dollar check?

No million dollars

You do, however, win a VHS cassette of “Dorf on Golf” plus a year’s supply of Rice-A-Roni, the San Francisco treat!

Any word on Gonzo

Wasnt he supposed to be in there, like, yesterday?

still a little sore should be in tomorrow

they said he had some soreness yesterday so holding him out again.

#Braves SS Gonzalez still had some soreness when he did react-type movements yesterday, gonna test it today but he’s out of lineup again

Why God, why? The guy hits shit for most of the year, and the second he gets hot…..
Nope."

fucking gravy

He has a meteor in his knee.

……the old Meteor Man, eh?

Parrish wasn't happy with his patience

so he requested to hold him out a few days to make him get super aggressive

I suspect the Braves will face a left handed starter 162 times next season.

thats why in the offseason we are teaching all the braves left hardens to be switch hitters

Left hardens?

TWSS

stupid auto correct

Your computer has auto correct? Because mine just has a keyboard

phone, perhaps?

Normally it indicates that it’s from a phone though

Could be from a 90’s style car phone, though. That might not show up.

I'll be super-worried if we have to face the Phillies if they lose 9

I hope they win today.

I hope they lose their next 7 in a row too.

Heck, they can go 0-infinity for all I care.

Yeah, but facing them with them having gone 0-9 is a recipe for a BRAVES DISASTER if I’ve ever seen one. Call me psychic, but that’s a Braves loss waiting to happen. We can’t pull that kind of shit off.

Savvy?

….Not with Prado batting behind Bourn and Fredi being a fucking retard…..errr….special.

the Phillies just want to go through the next week injury free

it’s obvious the rest doesn’t matter

Today is an almost a must win game.

A win and a Cards loss today

leaves them with a very small shot at the WC. Requires them to sweep and Braves to get swept just to force a playoff in St. Louis.

fuuuuuuuuuck

here we go

Let's GO fkin BRAVES!

Get this guy into the stretch fast and good things will happen.

It’s gonna be like that blue?

So....if the Braves lose and the Cardinals win again today....

How much panic will there be on TC?

Ever hear of 1929?

Yeah. It’ll be worse.

Hide the women, the children, and the Chipper bobbleheads
Red Sox are losing already. So there's that
161 million for a 2nd or 3rd place WC finish?

Buh bye Francona.

161 million for a 2nd or 3rd place WC finish?

Buh bye Francona.

161 million for a 2nd or 3rd place WC finish?
Buh bye Francona.

The WC expansion: Good idea or bad one?

Go!

Awful

Correct.

I also would have accepted turrible.

If MLB starts being like the NFL or NBA, where having a .500 record is “good enough” to get you to the postseason, I probably won’t be interested in watching it.

terrible.

playoffs are too long as it is.

I wouldn't say that.

A one game “knockout” round is more of a crapshoot than the playoffs already are.

Only if they shorten the season to 154 games….

Patented Braves first inning.

At least Bourn made him throw some pitches!!!
Anddddd Chipper lines out on the 1st pitch. Cool
Nothing wrong with it if you make good contact

I mean, he hit a line drive, so you can’t get mad at him.

LOLoffense at it again

Wait, no, now it’s the patented Braves first inning.

Of course the gNats can get on base in the 1st....

Watch how they score next.

Joe Simpson likes W/L records

Sometimes he’s smart, sometimes he doesn’t inspire me.

OJ Simpson likes knives

Just sayin.

the glove didn't fit! lol
Shocking a glove fitted for

a 79 year old arthritic woman would not fit a former NFL running back.

Werth hitting .180 off lefties? Bomb incoming.

I mean we saw what happened Friday
Or a strikeout

How does that work?

STFD Werth. Appreciate that
you see the intensity from the nats

they wanna beat us bad.

Don't see the same intensity from our guys

I don’t like Jason Werth.

not many people do
thanks werth

take a seat

Mike Minor like an admonishing parent there

“Now, you get back to second base, Desmond.”

“You wander too far off again and we’re not getting ice cream after the game.”

Yeah, Minor's definitely looking sharp

Nationals just are a tough match-up for Minor

All those right handed hitters, and good ones like Zimmerman and Morse

he's nibbling way too much
he and beachy both. can't keep getting into predictable counts.
most young pitchers do it, it's a league wide phenomina
That was the longest inning ever....
24 pitch inning for Minor. No harm done though

Offense needs to get their shit together asap

I love it when other pitchers have 24 pitch innings

We don’t do that to them very often

We need to get on the board first. Make it happen
Alright Duggla, let's do this thing.

Never mind that…

Cy Detwiler, a noteworthy name even in the panthenon of MLB’s greatest.

Makes Steve Carlton look like Barry Zito…

Uggla didn't hustle enough :(

Should’ve beat that out…. (ok, not really)

Ross Detwiler ladies and gentlemen. He'll be here for 7 innings
7?

You’re an optimist.

Braves are hacking at pitches like that while the Nats aren’t… Not a good sign

Surely you aren't surprised?

No just wish that patience against Strasburg would carry over.

It is absolutely infuriating how much this dumbass "aggressive" approach...

Makes crappy pitchers look amazing.

I wasn’t on the fire TP bandwagon last year but boy am I on the fire LP bandwagon this year. It’s ridiculous.

yep LP has to go

how do we know its LP teaching them this bad habit ?

He’s said multiple times that he wants to preach aggressiveness and hasn’t adjusted that attitude the entire season despite the results it’s obviously generating?

Even if he hadn’t done so it would be his job to try to correct it… but it’s worse than that, because he’s still in love with it.

League-leading OBP last year. Most hitters are still in there, it’s not like we had a team-wide overhaul.

We don’t know for certain without actual input from the players, but he’s the main variable that’s changed.

hola...

i have seen only 2 batters against Rottweiler … and i know how this ends…..

how does it end?
i´ll tell you after the game....
but i wanna know now lol
Diaz is gonna record a 1 pitch out. I can feel it
BOOM!

expectations denied!

Cy Young....!

MFS

Nice job. Right down the middle
Yankees up 4-0 already...

For anybody tracking the other wild card collapse.

Eases the pain some. But not much

With the Red Sox, they’re still scoring runs, just have no pitching.

I’d almost rather take unbearably bad pitching than a team-wide can’t-hit-anyone-ever performance.

The Curse....

It is back in effect, and now it’s applying to any team that ever played in Boston.

Not the Patriots or Bruins, though.

Why would I be talking about any sport other than baseball? Only baseball matters.

“any team that ever played in Boston” connotes more than just baseball.
 
And no, baseball isn’t the only sport that matters.

I pieced it together...

But I don’t think it was as obvious as you think it was :D

Didn’t the Bruins win the Stanley Cup?

Think he was just talking about baseball...

Offense trying to win 0-0 today.

Ross-Wilson-Minor due next inning

Might as well forget that one

sometimes i wonder....

do i really want to see this in the playoffs….? i mean IF we get there….

I mean... We're Braves fans...

If you’re not used to disappointing playoffs where have you been the last 20 years?

good point...

:D

I figure without the Astros around we may make it out of the NLDS at some point.

I'd rather see us get swept in the NLDS than not make it at all
STFD Espinoa. No hard feelings
UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
yeah....

i bet the phuckers end their losing streak tomorrow…..

Wait, that’s how you do that hitting thing?

Dunno if this is news to anyone..but Vampire Weekend is freakishly good.

did you find out about them the same way i did…?

Maybe, how did you find out about them?

Honda commercial

Nah, dunno if I even know what commercial you are talking about. I absolutely loved Oxford Comma and a song or two from their first album, but I just started listening to the second album and the 1st top to bottom, and they are just incredible. They have like 15 incredibly high quality songs in two albums.

i heard Holiday in the Commercial.. and loved that song… and i searched for them and that´s how i met them… they’re good….

Hey look another hit. Must be nice

Speed up Gomes’ bat. Great idea

if gomes hits you, you suck.

Well that’s simply not true…. :D

this

esp considering he’s a career .280/.375/.500 against LHP

Wasn't aware of that...

Just going more on the
this-is-baseball-everybody-hits-everybody-sometimes thing, haha.

Ball is up too much. Get it down.

Low strikes aren't being called :-/

Even the pitch he got Ramos on was in the zone and up… He’s really not pitching very well. See if he settles down.

I really don't think he's pitching poorly

The pitch that Gomes hit was a good pitch. The pitch that Desmond hit on the first pitch of the game looked pretty solid too. I think he’s not getting as generous a strikezone as he’d like.

The worst pitch he’s made so far was the line-drive that Wilson just caught.

Fredi going to be “judicious” with Meds’ use. I’ll believe that when I see it.

he doesn't even know how judicious is spelled.
how did he miss that shiet?
JACK!

With a helluva catch

Holy crap, what a catch.

I THOUGHT SEABASS WAS ON THE BENCH?!?!?!?!?!?!

Wow, thank you Jack Wilson.

WILSON SAVES THE DAY. I WAS ABOUT TO TURN THE GAME OFF
Nice Play....

but almost a disaster…..

This. See above

Though kind of awful that Minor give up a ball that hard-hit to Ross Detwiler, who’s probably batted in the majors like, 3 times.

46 :D

Some of us are still in shock over Wang’s FIRST MAJOR LEAGUE HIT yesterday.

lucky again

I mean, having a backup shortstop that can do that isn’t luck…

We should know

We had Lugo most of the season, and Brandon Hicks before that.

LMAO

Gomes had no idea there were 2 outs.

Anyone watching the ‘Aints game? I’ve never seen Brees look this bad.

Houston is terrible in the RZ though

No Foster = Texas-sized sadface

I have Rackers in FF so it's all good
I hate him

But he’s awfully good

I have Schaub

/angry

my opponent has Brees. He has 1 point in the first half so far. :)

Same here

ha

I also am playing Brees

I don’t know why they don’t throw a fade to Andre when they get down there. Trying all of this over the middle crap.

is he stephen garcia bad

or freddie sanchez bad

QUIT IT WITH THE NLDS TICKET COMMERCIALS
LISTEN TO THIS MAN PLEASE
LOUD NOISES
AHHHHHHHH LET'S GO BRAVES
AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH LET'S GO CUBS

Did you notice that a couple of days ago the promo made it’s big re-appearance? It is like having a very limited form of prescience.

Oop, there’s the promo -1 game.

While I love the commercial, if the Braves fail to make the playoffs I’m going to blame the people who made the “Written in the Stars” Braves ad.

DON'T SHOW STATS THAT SAY THE PHILLIES ARE STRUGGLING
here

comes 3 straight blowouts

We’re going to have a chance to stop them from reaching 100 wins…. that’s worth something.

Jack Wilson should petition to bat with his glove.

Plays like the one he just made count as HRs?

Yes, and the other team loses their pitcher (or the ability to throw left-handed.)

Momentum Bonus: 7500

ohhhh that was a nice pitch there, a bit high… but awfully good.

Swing at balls look at strikes and thank the ump for not calling it.

High curveball is high

No Hitter over!!!

I read this as “No Hitler over” and was worried

Baserunner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Breaks up the perfect game

Way to get the bathead on the ball.

Mac taking notes
Why hasn't Ross been starting?

Sigh….Frediball

DRoss: Professional no-hitter breaker-upper

i would love to see a Walk...

or a hit by pitch…

He is not an attractive man.

poor fella. Wife saw him the other day and said “EW! Who is THAT guy?”

You should have said, train crash survivor Jack Wilson that’s who. He is an inspiration.

what does this have to do with anything?

Are we going for relevance now?

PARADIGM SHIFT

Alright Jack....

With Jack Wilson playing defense like this he’s essentially Alex Gonzalez except I like him instead of really not liking him.

I liked that play where he ran seemingly two miles to get to a ball that was otherwise going up the middle. That was awesome. So were the player reactions.

Ok Jack it's ok to take at walk

Please be patient Jack.

Sigh, ump.

Where’s the love?

take this one, Jack

That was the walk Jack.

At least they're making Cy Detweiler throw pitches......
base hit ball 4 please
Good ABs this inning

Sac bunt time, please.

hope minor has learned how to bunt
SET MINOR LOOSE!

Jack making the Seabass injury look like a blessing.

Well, besides the Sea Bass was hot thing.

I don't know about that.

Gonzalez was on fire for the week prior to getting injured.

Yeah, definitely tongue in cheek guys.

Now can a pitcher actually successfully sac bunt?

so

does Wilson now have more walks then Gonzo in September? lol

Minor has little to no chance to get this down

FWIW, I believe Detwiler struggles in the stretch, so make him pay.

Now, close your eyes...
That was actually the best kind of walk....

…the kind where you make the opposing pitcher throw 9+ pitches.

the 4 pitch walk is also a very good thing

If only because it indicates that the pitcher is struggling.

Except when it's the 2011 Braves...

The next batter will still go up and swing at the first pitch.

Whoa Minor... were you going to swing?
I'd take a walk by Minor

Make him actually throw a strike.

Pitching around Minor to get to Bourn, probably.

A classic strategy

OT: Who else drafted Gronky Kong in their fantasy football league as a relatively late-picked TE and is tearing everyone else up now?

3-0 to Minor. Come on take 2 more at least

OMG. Bases loaded 0 outs.

If anyone can find a way not to score here, the Braves can. Keep the faith, brother.

Bases Loaded

here we go…..

BOURN DON’T SWING!

You mean, don't swing at something unless it is OBVIOUSLY a strike
but for the Braves

an obvious strike can be anywhere in the dirt in the other batters box ANYWHERE

Perhaps

I don’t know if Bourn is afflicted by the same lack of pitch recognition which has been a problem for Gonzalez, Prado, McCann, and occasionally Freeman this season.

wow so yeah Bourn make him throw strikes.

1) Bourn, don’t swing until you get two strikes
2) Braves, don’t pull a Braves

If it's right down the middle, I want Bourn to swing.

Thing is, Detwiler’s mechanics clearly make it look like he can’t pitch in the stretch.

Don't feel obliged to swing now, Bourn.
Please don't screw this up Michael
wow...

let´s see how the dogout blow this one up….

Minor improving his OBP for future arbitration issues…

SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN HE GOES TO THE STRETCH

I’m right with ya, buddy. His windup mechanics are too specific to carry over, it looks like.

Watch Fredi put on a triple hit-and-run.

Ricky Vaughn on the mound right now
Cy Detweiler is in danger of getting renamed..

ol Detwiler can’t throw it in the ocean right now

come on Rottwiler...!

if jonny Venters can do it.. you can too….

total f-up number 1
ugh

that sucked

WHY ARE YOU SWINGING 3-1 WHAT THEsadfkljagjkajkg

UNFUCKINGBELIEVEABLE

jesus. pop out. what are the odds of a vidro right here? 93%?

Alright.... still got two tries....
If we don't score here I'm just gonna watch football. I can't take this

We’ve gone from “Yay big inning” to “Please at least get one”

and total f-up number 2
wow

just wow Braves

this is just brutal

wtf braves why did we shift into hack mode?

YOU'VE GOT TO BE FUCKING KIDDING ME
GAH!

this team is making me crazy

wow this is sad reall sad

:(

this is Braves Baseball 2011

Terribad team is terribad

At least Chipper’s up.

oh my god we really suck balls.
1st pitch swing for Chipper here?
PLAYOFF BASEBALL.........!!!!!!!!

My only hope is that Detwiler feels overconfident and grooves one.

gotta love

dude cant throw strike so you just swing at crap

Thsi is pathetic. Based loaded 0 outs, 3-0 count, and you get 0 runs?

are u kidding me !!!!
THAT'S A FUCKING JOKE RIGHT?!?!?!?!?!
This is hard to watch

I’m switching to football

2011 in microcosm

what a fucking disgrace
haha

another 1 pitch out

Okay, Chipper, no idea why you swung at the first pitch.
AND TOTAL FUCKING PATHETIC FUCK UP NUMBER 3!!!!

This offense doesnt deserve the playoffs

I LOVE THIS....

I JUST LOVE THIS…. I JUST LOVE THIS…. I JUST LOVE THIS…. I JUST LOVE THIS…. I JUST LOVE THIS…. I JUST LOVE THIS…. I JUST LOVE THIS…. I JUST LOVE THIS…. I JUST LOVE THIS…. I JUST LOVE THIS…. I JUST LOVE THIS…. I JUST LOVE THIS…. I JUST LOVE THIS…. I JUST LOVE THIS…. I JUST LOVE THIS…. I JUST LOVE THIS…. I JUST LOVE THIS…. I JUST LOVE THIS…. I JUST LOVE THIS…. I JUST LOVE THIS…. I JUST LOVE THIS…. I JUST LOVE THIS….

I'm sorry but I'm done for today. We don't deserve shit. I love the Braves but that is embarassing
I'll keep up on my phone. Yall have a good one

easy, hoss. It’s one inning. We’re going to be fine.

We've been hearing that for the past 2 weeks

And we’re still 2 games up!

that one embarrased you?

it’s easily happened 10-15 times this year

it really says something when not a single person is surprised about what just happened

i was counting on it… hell I’d have put money on it

I called it higher up in the comments. :(

lol

all the negativity as bann happy as the admins have been lately i would be surprised if all of us gett banned for showing emotion

my patience for this team has parrish'd

see you people tomorrow. I’m taking a nap

“You just gotta tip your cap to Detwiler there. He made some good pitches.”

NO!

I took everyone’s hats away yesterday.

Yeah, I hate that mentality

When you help a guy out who’s struggling, never ever tip your cap. Unless it’s sarcastic.

Fredi shouldnt you be managing the game…. oh who am i kidding you couldnt manage a Waffle House

Oh man

“Here you go, son.”
“But I didn’t order eggs over easy.”
“We aggressively ordered it for you.”

I don't think Fredi has done anything wrong yet this game... maybe we can lay off until he does.

The game is also still tied, believe it or not.

fuck this...

REALLY REALLY REALLY FUCK THIS… im done……i hope st louis win the whole fucking thing….

I'm glad that everyone has a sense of perspective

ooo someones gonna yell at ya for that one hah

he walked the pitcher...!
this is a terrible day to try and not have a smoke.
The 2011 Braves...

Never missing an opportunity to miss an opportunity.

Worst offense ever:

2011 Braves
2011 49ers

i dont watch the 49ers but surely they are not worst then the braves !!!

Speaking of a sense of perspective

Braves aren’t even bottom 5 in offense.

This is a terrifying thought.

I mean... since the Braves are 20th-ish in offense

in the MLB for the season… I don’t understand how they can compare to any of the worst offenses ever.

No sense of perspective

Overreaction-palooza. Ready to kick their computers the first time a page doesn’t load.

Definitely last among play-off teams, and with weakened pitching it seems reasonable to be concerned about a generally punch-less offense. I wouldn’t call it the worse ever, but with the talent on this club we are really underachieving, not to mention how many missed opportunities we’ve had.

I agree with everything you said...

But I don’t understand at all why it was said as a reply to what I said…

Eh, apparently I don’t think of the reply system as as much of a linear thing as others do. Just a comment on the topic, not necessarily targeted at you.

Ah, okay! Makes sense then.

Holy lord, please grant our fans and hitters patience.

Patience is probably too much to ask for. I’d settle for a sac fly.

Playoff ready, you guys

it starts with

bourn not knowing whether to swing at the fastball or not with a 3-1 count

then prado tentatively swinging because he’s had bad luck and doesn’t want to hit into DP

then chipper…oh my.

2 pitches for Chipper

freakin’ negativity..

Nats score at least one this inning
Braves

you cannot expect the Cubs and Astros to clinch the WC for you. YOU’RE GOING TO HAVE TO IMPACT THIS YOURSELF. AND THAT MEANS SCORING WHEN THE BASES ARE LOADED WITH NO OUT. Sorry for the allcaps, but I don’t think they could hear me all the way from Minnesota without them.

I dont’ think any of them expect the Cubs and the Astros to clinch for them.

at least the Nats failed with RISP also

I seriously doubt the Nats would’ve failed with bases loaded and 0 outs.

29 other teams wouldn't have failed

Now you’re just being silly on purpose

but not that way...
sometimes i think

they really don’t wanna win…

I never doubt they want to win but the approach is beyond terrible

They are probably pressing way too much. Another sign of poor management.

minor so angry !!!!
now now.. everybody picture what just happened...

packed Turner Field… 8th inning.. against Philadelphia… game 6… Braves down by one….

Why did you choose game 6 and 8th inning instead of game 7 and 9th inning?

Because game 7 and 9th inning is too mainstream?

yeah

too cliche…

bases loaded no out they get a strike out then get into a double play ???

if we got to game 6 against philly, we'd be doing ok.
I'm going to flash back to an April game in 2010 against the Phillies

3-0 Phillies going to the bottom of the 9th. Back to back homers by Heyward and Glaus tie it up. Walk-off HR by Nate McLouth.

And that prank they played on McLouth….so great.

Dugout clears into the locker room by the time Nate gets to the plate.

Best celebration ever
Where is Nate?
meteor
Meteor is a small town in West Virginia

Wouldn’t Game 6 be in Philly?

dude...

don’t ruin the whole thing

Sorry, I’m a sucker for technicalities!

How would that happen

when Philly won’t be playing after the DS?

you mean the braves the way they are playing right now

wow that was strike 3 !!!!
wow shitty ump is shitty
Look BACK TO BACK 2 OUT HITS
Are you going to leave and follow the game on your phone?
Decided against it. Thanks though
You don't get mad at our offense? I mean this is every game
I get mad, yes

I don’t quit watching a game just because we fail to score in the second inning. I’ll turn the game off if we get down by 4 runs and can’t hit shit, maybe.

here it comes. The price for failing last inning.

glad i was wrong.

Marrero would probably be a better hitter if he didn’t try to hit everything into the bleachers.

great job minor

good inning

NO RUNS SCORED FOR NATIONALS!

How long can the miracles keep up?

come on braves lets do this !!!!

So the patient approach got us a great opportunity. The hack away approach squandered it. Can we go back to being patient?

I demand an Uggla smash.

Home-runs are pretty much are only hope.

HR or Bust?
HR AND Bust.

Kotsay’s wife’s bust.

Minor holding it together. Uggla HR coming
okay, it's time for some offense in 3,2,1...
you need to start higher than 3

like 3 billion maybe

0, -1, -2, -3, -4, -5 …….

After 1 I went to decimals

0.9, 0.8…
It’s coming

You’re only using one digit right of the decimal? I would’ve started at 0.99999999999 at least.

bases loaded with no outs, and they get no runs. i am really sick of that…

get in the line….

you’re a bit late to the party

I had to take a walk…

Anybody know anything about autographed memorabilia?

A little, I guess.

I am thinking about getting a player signed ball off of Ebay for my birthday. I don’t want anything that would be crazy priced, but I don’t want Greg Norton either. Any suggestions?

Ebay is dangerous

because there’s a ton of fake stuff there. I just checked some of the sellers that I’ve saved and it doesn’t look like any of them are selling at the moment. Just make sure you read the feedbacks before you bid.

I tried to will them to a win in person yesterday

It didn’t work. Trying harder from the couch now.

of course that went foul…

Of course that goes just foul

Randy Wells struggling but through two scoreless vs STL

I demand runz. It is approaching cure the impotence time.

Baseball Viagra?

In a manner of speaking…

Kate Upton is 2-0…those two games..19 innings against Pitts and the lone Mets win.

Yankees leading 5-1 and Rays up 4-1

Wow. Could be down to half a game before game 2

LOLSox

I was going to do that….. but it seems like a jinx to make fun of another team for doing what we could do as well.

I passed the point of caring.

I had a doctor recommend I stop watching because I stress out too much… Am I alone here? I like to think I am just passionate.

On the contrary I think you're in exactly the right place.
you need a new doctor

but you are not alone

I do have a disease thats tied in with stress, and stress causes relapses… my left arm has been numb for the month of September.

Nice Freddie!! 1 out single
IT'S A HIT BASE!! NOW CAN HAS A SCORE RUN!?
no

we need to string 6 more hits together to score 1 run

make sure he can throw strikes if he goes to his stretch… oh wait its Diaz

Yeah….but even if it’s two feet outside, I still have faith that Diaz can slap it into left-center for a single.

What's with the hate on Matty?

2-0 start by the way…

Its not hate really. Diaz just doesn’t walk.

Be patient. He’s in the stretch again.

Cy Dettweiler don't care about that

C’mon Caveman.

Come on Matty
Or not. That's about right

That was some nice lefty-on-lefty violence by Freeman there.

the only thing missing....

has just happened…..

Good to get it out of the way early?

Diaz AB was killed by swinging at ball 3.

Yeah

Just because you’re up 2-0 doesn’t mean you have to swing

Larry Parrish: But it’s a hitters count!

List of hitter's counts, from Larry Parrish's: The Art of Hitting

0-1
0-2
1-0
2-0
3-0
1-1
1-2
2-1
2-2
2-3

If you’re in any of these counts, swing away.

Bah….I missed the 3s (and yes, 2-3 was intentional).

Especially if the count is 2-3, cause the ump isn't going to forget the count again

in all likelihood.

0-3
1-3
2-3
3-3

All good counts to swing away.

"Refusing to leave the batter's box after strike 3"

by Larry Parrish
 
foreword by Terry Pendleton and Joe Morgan

I bet the Joe Morgan part reads something like this: “What you want to do when you’re the batter, is to not get three strikes before the pitcher gets three strikes on you. You see, if you get three strikes you’re out. If you hit the ball before you get three strikes, you might not be out. If you might not be out, that’s better than being out. In baseball, you want to not make outs. You see, if you make three outs in an inning, the inning is over. If the inning is over, you can’t score anymore runs. And the team that scores more runs wins the game. You want to score more runs than the other team, so you can be the team that wins the game.”

matt diaz isnt cutting it
"It's what's he's here for"
Yeah.... only hitting .308 with the Braves this year.
DFA him.
SSS
I mean, of course I realize that...

But if you’re going to make a statement like “matt diaz isnt cutting it” you’re BASING THAT on the SSS… or you’re just being stupid.

SSS here=single sample size, it is absurd to assess value from from one scenario in a game like baseball

You didn't really just try to tell someone with 10,000+ comments on TC what SSS stands for....

Did you?

No I didn’t. I was saying that this isn’t even small sample size, it is a single sample size. Meaning he is basing it on 1. It’s all up there.

Ah, sorry

As long as we both think he’s being absurd… I’m fine :D

Someone else might just be looking at his season numbers

Where he’s had no power and is hitting for a poor average.

It’s the split that matters though, because that’s what we got him for.
And his .302/.343/.357/.700 for the year vs LHP I’ll take in a second over other options.

I mean

It’s a .311 wOBA versus lefties. It’s not like he’s destroying them.

I didn’t say he was destroying him… I just think it’s ridiculous to say he’s “not cutting it” when there’s little or no statistical evidence we have a better option.

Closer to his career lefty numbers than his overall year is though, so SSS corresponds to data gathered in a large sample size, giving it some legitimacy.

what is his wOBA with the Braves?

.319

not good

Better than the alternate player’s wOBA for the year…

barely and Heyward is much much better defensively

vs Lefties please

Heyward wOBA 2011: .261

So significantly better.

a 308 average aint much if youre not walking and only hitting singles

Matt Diaz: not going to walk much

He's not inspiring a lot of faith, lately.

Really? He cost us nothing and can serve the need of helping our line-up against lefties. You should expect anybody to fail more than they succeed.

heyward is sitting for that garbage?
Lefty Pitching

Heyward auto-sit

Freddy is still “managing” right?

1 pitch 1 out. Nice play Jack
Wow if you guys are really going to "Matt Diaz isnt cutting it" and call him "garbage"

Maybe, based on this game we should get rid of Bourn, Prado, and Chipper too.

Seriously, cut the overreaction.

Remember what people were saying about Conrad after game 4 last year?

This is pretty tame by comparison.

To be fair

Brooks killed us, bless his heart.

If Diaz goes hitless in his next AB, i would like to see Heyward put out there. Lefty or not

.286 now with 1 walk and no extra base hits

yeah thats really cutting it

another situation where people get infatuated with batting average i guess

i covered obp and slugging in that comment too

no i was agreeing with you sorry that wasn’t clear.

For the tenth time…. better than the alternative.
I’ll absolutely take his career .343 OBP vs LHP right now.

Come on Mike it's Gomes. Finish him
STFD. Thank you
Ok.... still no score...

let me start again….. we have 5 innings to win….

Nationals havent scored yet, so Braves really have as long as it takes…

Y'all have impeccable timing

Crap

YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME

Oh boy, this is going to be fun.

I need a replay
here we go....

thank you Atlanta…

Yeah ump

we really needed you to twirl your stupid finger

That was unfortunate.

I mean he hit it off his back foot.. wtf

well

at least it wasnt the pitcher

Would've been nice to have the pitcher leadoff next inning....

….and not be down a run. That’s an impossible deficit!

I love how Ramos does all his damage against the Braves
1-0

odds the game stays like this…..?

0%

The Nationals will score at least 1 more.

We have to have this game. I mean seriously guys come on

OK, I am going to take a break from this game. I may be cynical but I have no hopes of a comeback….

Good things happened last time it was Ross-Wilson-Minor.

oh yes

please we all want to see this again

We used to expect a Braves comeback when down 3 or more. But down one seems like they are buried this year..

Ross

with a bunt

Looks at those stats. Awful.
God I love you David Ross
Rossy

beautiful bunt

David Ross came to play
See that stat?

RBI w/ Runner on 3rd, less than 2 outs….. 146 rbi. Last in the majors

Maybe they should start to utilize ghost runners

and see if that doesn’t change up the luck.

Avg w/ Bases Loaded – .195 (28th in mlb)
RBI w/ Bases Loaded 65 (29th in mlb)

Thought you were leaving

i am. Between Gumbbraves gif below and ross’ bunt, i will see how this half goes

Just hate the childishness of all the people shouting "THAT'S IT, GAME OVER, I'M LEAVING, WE SUCK."

And then hanging around and not leaving. It’s like a 5 year old shouting that he’s going to hold his breath until he dies, and THEN you’ll all be sorry!

I don’t deal with 5 year olds any more than I have to.

On the positive side

There’s lots of room for improvement

Cure the Impotence

Walk It out.

Those things are going to drag behind her when she’s in her 70s.

Nah, breast reduction and silicone will do the trick.

Crime against humanity.

I’ll be happy to carry them for her, but I better go ahead and start now so I can build up my boob handling rating

I will take it while her and I are in our twenty’s…..

Well… she’s 19… so you’re gonna have to wait a bit.

ATTABOY JACK. CASH THIS IN
base hit

for Wilson

we’ve seen this story before

MAYBE IT HAS A DIFFERENT ENDING!!!

I certainly hope so.

Didn’t bunt into a double play, that’s a start.

Close enough to the same ending.

meh...

i mean.. really.. why get excited with a hit… only Home runs will do it for me….

Please get the bunt down
And Thank-you

It’s all about manners

I wonder what the team BABIP with bases loaded is.....

I’d guess far below league average.

GREAT BUNT MIKE

Don’t feel pressure to hit a sac fly Bourn. Just relax make sure its a strike.

Bourn really really really needs to make up for it here
Great Bunt...

Now.. Prepare to be Amazed…! Again…!

lol

Braves Baseball

Damnit. Our luck couldn't be any worse
What in God's name is going on
Braves Baseball 2011

Why are we incapable of hitting a sac fly?

that was really good contact by Bourn. He probably isn’t going to hit a ball deep enough.

Maybe tell The Braves there are two outs when there is one? Seem to always fly out with 2 outs with RISP.

im going to have a mental break down soon
Prado will GIDP here....

Yes, I know there are already 2 outs.

Prado is killing us.

Muahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

I LOVE SEQUELS…..

Sequels are always inferior to the original, though. In the original, there were THREE runners on base and 0 outs. Do you see?

Gomes once again forgot how many outs there were, lol
JESUS CHRIST I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH MORE WE CAN TAKE
I love how the other team doesn't even need to know how many outs there are in the inning to keep us from scoring.

To be fair, neither did Prado several times earlier this year

I’m getting really tired of this.

Cubs w/ 2nd and 3rd and 1 out.... maybe they can do something.

You mean teams can actually score in that situation?

Such a mistake moving Prado back to the 2 hole.

Chipper basically begged out of it when he was there, and hitting pretty well, iirc

Chipper's an adult

If I’m Fredi, I’m just telling Chipper, “Look, it’s really good for the team right now, and I like the way you’re hitting there. I think it improves the line-up,” and i don’t think Chipper would argue too much about whether he’s sufficiently helping the team.

Even Gomez thought we should have scored a run.

Can we just keep cycling Ross-Wilson-Minor over and over please?

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

…………awwwwww :(

Can someone tell me how we became the worst team in the majors

Early in the season, when we had Hudson/JJ/Hanson/Beachy having great outings every time on the hill, we only needed 3 runs to win a game.

Now we need a few more and we can’t score that much because our offensive approach is terrible.

The weird thing is...

At the beginning of the season you would have thought this was going to be a better-than-league-average offense.

And then they just started swinging at EVERYTHING

The offense was weirdly better with Uggla/Heyward having uber-slumps than it is now.

“Jason is drawing too many walks not hitting enough homeruns”
Larry Parrish

Larry Parrish: The only walking I want to see is a home run trot.

Wonder if they will get a true left fielder and move Prado back to a utility role.

A little more patience would be useful, I think

nod nod

Cubbies have bases loaded 1 out. Soto batting
1 pitch 1 out

are the Braves still batting?

Is our LOB at 6 today?

And the Phillies may have turned it around……

They have scored every inning so far

Everything seems to be perfectly on script for the 2011 Braves version of the “team of (ill-fated) destiny”

Why does Werth’s walk-up music sound like A Whiter Shade of Pale?

BABIP gods have fully forsaken us.

Cubs get a SAC FLY. Lead 1-0

You just blew my mind.

YOU CAN DO THAT IN BASEBALL!?

I see Werth still has that Philly Broken Bat Bloop Single (TM)

How come we can’t get broken-bat hits with runners on? Or line drive homers?

Love the cheap hits
a that bloop falls, bases loaded no out 0 runs

philadelphia will break out of their slump starting tomorrow…. Marmol will blow another late lead….yeah… life is beautiful…..

Marmol isn’t supposed to be pitching today.

7-0 in the 4th. They may have already broken out...

I’m not sure about that happening starting tomorrow Phils already scored 7 today.

From first to worst.

On the plus side, the Braves don’t technically have to win any more games to win the Wild Card as long as St. Louis loses another 3.

Cards aren’t losing another 3.

Ground ball takes care of this
I really

really, REALLY, want them to win this game.

I mean it's only the most important game of the season
Yes.

Philadelphia will not be easy.

second most the next one or the next next one will be the most important
I would much rather have a 2 game lead with Philly coming to town

3 games sounds better

Question:

Who has been the better player this year: Martin Prado or Jason Heyward?

thats a sad sad question

Trick Question, the correct answer is the baseball.

is that

a trick question…?

Heyward easily if you value getting on base and not making outs more.

sea bass

u forgot your sarcastic font

Sadly, I think Sea Bass has been better than Prado.

hes been great lately

Nah

Don’t go overboard, now.

I’m not. Prado and Gonzalez have both been terrible offensively. Gonzalez is stellar defensively.

Prado has been bad on offense

Gonzalez has been a blight. And Gonzalez has been very solid, not superb, on defense.

Wasn’t he leading the majors in DRS at SS?

UZR has him at league average

I’m splitting the difference. I don’t think he’s been the best, but I think he’s been better than average.

Isn’t UZR basically worthless for single season/in-season comparisons?

No more worthless than DRS

They use the same methodology.

I’ve read otherwise, but I don’t really care enough to argue it. I firmly believe that Gonzalez is a top 5 defensive SS in the game.

prado has been bad on defense aswell though

Gonzalez is about the same distance away from Prado as Prado is from Heyward for wOBA

All 3 of em seem like the same player at times (Parrish’d?)

Jason

buy a long shot according to baseball reference

Thanks everyone. Just making sure.

Hopefully we can collapse into the wild card...
Touchdown Texans!!!
The Nats' announcer just forgot how many outs there were.

“And the Nats will strand ano….excuse me, there’s still some of the inning to go.”

i really

don´t see how the braves will ever score a run again…. i just don’t see it…

Minor can't even finish 5 innings. Yeahhhhhhhhhhhh
Mikey Minor

hell of a job.

Is it just me or did David Ross look unhappy

4 and 2/3 way to go...
that was a slight to Freddy that didnt read right...

Minor getting pulled because he allowed a broken-bat single and a dribbler that was hit too weakly for a double play is bullcrap.

Chris Marrero is now batting for the 3rd time today with 2 runners on.

Lovely…it’s amazing the Nats aren’t up 4-0 right now.

If he gets a hit now

I’m going to be rather angry at Fredi.

oh no dont do that the mods on here will warn you!!!!!

Wow, pulling Minor very early here

I don’t really get it. He’s pitched pretty well today, only at 86 pitches.

Freddy figures over-managing has worked for LaRussa

That’s horrible, mostly because I think that’s exactly how he reasons his way through games.

"Werth...you just gotta tip yer hat to 'im."

“When I saw that broken bat hit and the dribbler, I knew my fat ass needed to Harley it’s way out and do some cap tippin’ and pitcher switchin’. 86 pitches is too many for a starter when you have a bullpen you can abuse instead.”

Especially to Marrero

“uhh I just thought he didnt have his best stuff out there.”

Pretty sure he would've left Lowe in

and let him hit next inning

Ugh...

I just realized that Minor doesn’t get to hit again. He’s been one of the key offensive pieces today!

you jest but he actually got on base.

Pretty sure its going to blow up in Fredi’s face. Not sure its a bad move though.

I get it...

I don’t necessarily agree with it… but I get it.

Got away with one there.

Nice job C-Mart.

Noticed earlier from my phone

We had 3 runners on with nobody out. And proceeded to get 3 consecutive outs. It made me :*(

CMart with the K.

Can we please score a run now?

9-0 phils...

Braves need to get it together. Phillies seem to have….

Not to mention the Cardinals are losing. You would think they would have some extra motivation to win this game whether that score holds or not

Why would they need motivation to win? They’re relying on the Braves to lose every game the rest of the way.

I'm talking about us......

I didn’t read “The Book”… what kind of sacrifice do the Gods need?

Braves don’t have any bunts or fly balls to sacrifice…

I’m sure we can drum up a virgin here…

Boppers up this inning. I like our chances.

Chipper is gonna see three pitches!

Victory!

Four!

Five!

Six!

It’s like he remembers he can take pitches when there are no runners on base.

I find myself getting up

and pacing around between updates on Yahoo. Like that will somehow make it better when I look and nothing has changed.

I find myself drinking more.
I tried that yesterday.
Chipper looks uncomfy from the right side
Running out of outs. Somebody. Anybody.
Even when it seems like something's going to go our way...
yeah...

this is great…..

Someone needs to go up there and "Lean Into One" if we dont score this innng
OT

What Braves jersey should I get?

Derek Lowe

jersey might be pretty cheap

Fire sale...

All jerseys must be burned!

Raul Mondesi

haha! I was thinking of going with Freddie

Chad Paronto

Ah, the ole Parontosaurus...

Resop might be collectable.

maybe

a Bob Wickman jersey as long as you dont mind its a XXXXXL

that was ball four

but doesn’t matter…. nothing matter anymore….

Swung at ball 4 twice
And Uggla K's. We are truly terrible
Go Cubs.

Please?

Freeman 1 pitch out. This is painful
Dear Randy Wells:

keep going.

He just got robbed with ball 4.

Terribad team seems to be getting more terribad as the game goes on.

remember when we had Detwiler on the ropes

I remember having the bases loaded and no outs but I can’t recall us having him on the ropes….

well

they did have someone warming up

Remember when we could actually hit, like, at all?

Pretty much going to be on the Cubs to get us into the playoffs because none of our players want to go there.

yeah...

im numb…. and don’t care….

Drank all my beer yesterday, and it’s Sunday, so yeah

I remember

When we had a 9.5 game lead.

We have 1 run in the last 18 innings.

Looking into our next series: Cliff Lee, Roy Oswalt, and Cole Hamels.

I was at the game

in Philly when they won 4-1 against Lee. Anything can happen.

We probably aren't gonna make the playoffs if we don't find a way to win this one
Wrong

Lee, Oswalt, Bullpen Game
According to the Phillies

Looking at the probable pitchers section on the Braves official site.

Yeah, must not be updated

DoB / Bowman both tweeted earlier today they’re not starting Hamels… maybe Worley and Kendrick and the pen.

With the way we’re playing, I’m assuming the Phils would want to play us over the Cards (2nd round). I think we have a better team than the cards, we’re just in a huge slump.

I mean... I'm not sure...

I don’t think they’re thinking about it that way at all. I think they want to rest Hamels… not sure they care that much who they play in the NLCS (if they get there).

Cards will face: Wandy Rodriguez, Henry Sosa, and Brett Myers.

Cards have bases loaded with 1 out

Bases juiced in St. Louis, 1 out.

Cubs

Are about to fail us.

Don't really want Martinez on the mound right now

Would rather have Minor. Whatever.

Jesus. We can't allow any runs

Freese just scored. 1-1.

SAC FLY FROM EDWIN JACKSON

Sac fly?

I didn’t think teams still did those

Thanks Cubs!!!!!!
is not the Cubs fault

is this crappy sucking and whatever so called “playoff team” fault… when a team in the middle of pennant race can´t manufacture a single run… that team doesn’t deserve to win…..

AMEN. See below
So many chances these past few weeks. No one to blame but ourselves

Agreed. Worse case today, we lose they win. We wakeup Monday 1 game ahead. I would still rather be in our shoes.

Tied up in St. Louis. Awesome.

cant expect another team to do you job for you

Chipper is the king of looking back a runner a 2nd.

Glad somebody on this team is king of something I guess.
Alex Gonzalez is the king of outs.

Detweiler gone, so we have that going for us, which is nice.

The problem is Detweiler really wasn’t good the top of our lineup was just hacking so much.

Except we probably have no shot against their bullpen
ohh great...

Rodriguez in the pen….

With Rodriguez/Clippard/Storen this game isn’t looking too good.

Only 1 run to make up today unlike 3 like yesterday.
RUNZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

GET THEM NOW. So frustrating.

If Rodriguez comes in

PH for Diaz, please.

Thursday before the Cards game it was over in their favor

Friday after the games, we had it locked up—according to all the commentators. Can we please just end this?? Is that too much to ask?

It's exciting, no doubt
how about a new thread ??

really do need one.

Red Sox still losing, Rays still winning late

It’s sad that I’m banking on their collapse overshadowing ours

Oh it will

Won’t make me feel any better though

Alright... I don't think it's too early to bring out...

THE RALLY CUPS!!!

I want that guy's autograph

They put in a righty! we have hope

Jason looks really intense at the plate

mmm

yeah…. lets say intense….

Heyward needs to go back to 2010 mode....

….and hit a 3-run HR with no runners on base.

On the road walkoff-style.

In the 7th.

Espinosa was quoted as saying: “We’re going to play the Braves hard with the shot of knocking them out of the playoffs.”

1. This series does not determine the Braves playoff ability.
2. In Washington, get familiar with that role.

I dunno know why we're so bitter about that quote.

Why would you expect any less?

I don't agree with either one of those points

That too

Because we are playing terrible. I need to vent on a terrible team. I, personally, do not agree that they will compete in the next three years. But I am a casual fan.

The way I read it, is that the Nationals can seize the Braves’ playoff chance. Not true. The Phillies hold that power.

Gotta get closer to the plate when the ball is tailing away Jason..

On gameday it looked like it said it was a 1004 mph fastball.

Jason may have thought so too.

100 mph....

for those who wondered how would we feared against Kimbrell… well.. here you go….

Bunt for a HR rossy

FAIL!!!!!!!!!!

In my defense I was kidding, but I might be able to control baseball. I’ll get back to you.

What a mess this game is.
foul bunt

uhm, awesome.

We have no chance

How are you so stupid as to try to bunt a 100 mph fastball with two strikes?

We're counting on Jack Wilson to hit a 2-run HR here....

…what’s that? Oh…. :(

Who IS this guy?!

he doesn’t need any help, ump

lol, that was nasty

I feel bad for Wilson

We just got blown away.

Spirit Crushed by a 101 MPH FB

Again, put Constanza or Richardson up there and have em take one for the team

Steal second, then third. I’m dead serious. This is f’ing ridiculous

well

im pretty disheartened now

“Gotta tip your cap, he had good stuff.”

DAMN'T, FOR THE LAST TIME!!!

I TOOK ALL THE HATS! THERE ARE NO HATS TO BE TIPPED!!

*hats/caps….whatever

Yes, I’m slightly bitter….

I look forward

To the Phillies series.

Domination. We are gonna have to sweep the Phillies to avoid a 1 game playoff

might have to do it to reach a playoff

more bunts!

I think Ross is onto something with the bunts. If the entire team just went up to the plate and bunted for a base hit, it would probably result in more runs than whatever it is they’re trying to do now.

Buh Bye Bravos....

im really sorry… but this team has killed any glimmer of Hope i had in them….. such a waste…

Henry Rodriguez usually has terrible location

But wow, he was pinpoint in that inning.

I wonder if the team feels the same way we do

that a 1 run deficit is just insurmountable.

probably Fredi can’t relax them at all

Don't worry. The Astros

Will bail us out.

Wait the Bills are beating the Pats?

They were tied until a pick-six

Brady has 4 picks!!! Wow

Maybe they ARE for real.

No kidding. It was 21-0 Pats.

Last year it seemed that somebody would come to the plate with fire in his bat and he would not be denied. You could watch Ross or Heyward come up and you knew a double was coming to knock in a couple of runs. Prado and Infante would come up and you could just tell that they were going to spank it into the outfield. It was like an Angels in the Outfield effect, but it is completely gone now. I dunno if that was just succeeding more or some sort of intensity that translated into results, but whatever it is it is gone in 2011.

Or Melky or Nate would come in and GIDP. That happened too.

Am I the only one mad that Melky is having a hell of a year?

Yea, but there was a feeling that they were following a script, and in a lot of ways it was a beneficial one for the Braves. That is “even-keeled” in its own way, but there was still fire and intensity, that is absolutely gone this year. I think Fredi’s managing style has a whole lot to do with it.

I think you’re over-romanticizing last year a bit.

I absolutely am. But I think the intensity difference is very much a factor. This team seems sedated more often than not, that was not really a problem in 2010, and now that combined with approach have been a couple of our worst problems.

Are we seriously leaving Martinez out there at this point?

So Fredi is really quick to yank Minor, because zomg baserunners

But he’s okay leaving C-Mart in there in a 1-0 game for his 3rd inning.

Jim saying Fredi handling it like he would if it were game 7 of the World Series. So there’s that.

I’m staying positive. I’ve watched around 120 games this year. I’m not giving up before it is officially over; I have too much time invested :-)

I’ve watched probably 150 games this year, and I’m not giving up, but this is killing me.

I’ve traveled a lot, so if game day counts, I’m at 150, too!

Yup.

You gotta think going home with everything on the line, the team might actually show up.

I can't give up until we've given up the lead

at least.

Has everybody forgotten that we clinched on the last day last year?

Seriously!

I’m buying a bottle of Grey Goose that I expect to toast on Wednesday!

But we didn’t have a 9.5 game lead last year that we threw away.

No... but we were tied for the DIVISION on September 11

The Braves didn’t have a 7.5-game lead with 18 left last year.

It has become clear that Fredi does not have the Cox.

Although they both seem to have the ability to overwork the pen.

Berkman walks. 1 out.
Whoops

Make that 2 outs. Holliday up.

This Saints-Texans game is unreal.

I enjoy all Atlanta sports, but i really don’t care about them until baseball is over. At least Braves baseball.

well

that might be it

MORSE JUST FINISHED US!!!!!!!!!!!!11
Season....

bye all….

Well good fucking job Fredi
game

set. match.

WHY THE HELL IS THAT BRAVES FAN THAT CAUGHT THE BALL CELEBRATING?!?!?!?!

I’M GOING TO FIND HIM AND CASTRATE HIM

Fredi trolled us this whole season.

Going to have to be Cubs fans today, the Braves aren't getting it done

I have a feeling StL is about to look at the scoreboard and score about 5 runs

And C-Mart is still pitching....

He is being punished.

We’re all being punished.

Oh fuck you Morse

Fredi, can you at least look visibly upset that you made a bad decision leaving C-Mart in? Would that be too much to ask?

I think the blank look it definitely upset.

You can’t really get angry at him for not visibly punching something can you?

I don’t really equate blank with upset. That’s my issue with it. I’m not asking him to beat a cooler, but at least throw his hands up or something.

I didn’t scream when that happened.
I sat here and stared at my screen.

I did too, but that’s not what I would do if I were there. Or if it were my decision that led to it.

It is infuriating that he is so emotionless.

I'm tired of looking at Fredi's fat fucking face. It's beginning to make me sick

There. I said it

This game was over when they blew bases loaded and 0 outs.

No… it wasn’t.

For that matter it still isn’t over.

This is correct
In our minds at least

Nice fist pump, Morse. And that extra celebration. Expect some sweet chin music.

Ha when next year after we blow the biggest lead in history?

No, he will be back up the way they are batting around.

The way they’re batting around???
They have…. nine hits……..

And that's why I didn't want Martinez to stay out there

Not using our best bullpen pitchers in a 1 run game = ????

Good thing is, I now feel fine turning the channel now

In time for the Falcons’ game to start.

Fredi is absolutely pathological about this sort of thing. I think he truly, honestly believes that the good relievers can only be used when the Braves aren’t trailing.

Well, you know

It’s something we can point to when he’s fired after the season. But of course, he won’t be.

Least...

Boston is losing.

A strikeout

too late.

and I cannot stand Skip Carey, can we release an announcer?
Chip Caray.

I like him.

he is dead

You’re an idiot.

Must have been the fisting

Skip Caray was an absolute legend… may he rest in peace.

And you…. are dumb.

Both Ramos' and Morse's home runs were with 2 strikes and 2 outs.
Byrd

Leadoff double!

Byrd leads off the 7th with a double
Mike Morse hits a two-run homer for the #Cardinals in DC, to put #Nationals ahead, 3-0. Busch Stadium cheers as highlight is shown #stlcards
So,

is the offense even gonna bother showing up today? This is beyond pathetic.

Uh…. what’s going on?

Let’s do this Shawshank.

Books Conrad and the Case of the Missing Spine.

Well I see our offense is still offensive.

Come on brooks!

Nevermind, just bring me a beer.

KRIS MEDLEN warming up
SWING THE GODDAMN BAT BROOKS JESUS
Strike 2 should have been a ball
5 outs remaining....

Do you think the Nationals would forfeit their half of the 8th and just let the Braves keep batting until the end?

4

Bourn has had a forgettable day

Now you guys choose to stare at pitches? Seriously?

Always an inning late and a run short....
First-pitch out...
I'm glad I have TC as a place to vent so I don't go upside my girlfriends head or something.

Don’t know how to use the sarcasm font.

I think it's

wordswordswords

whoops

“@”(words)“@”

no don’t vent here you’ll get warned for showing emotion !!!

We're done
I thought you said you were leaving earlier?

Prado will bail us out!!!!

With his checkbook?

Larry Parrish better not be our hitting coach next year.

I AM GOING TO HURT THE WOMAN SITTING BEHIND THE PLATE

We haven’t even had a hit in 3 innings.

WE NEED A GODDAM NEW THREAD
why...?

what´s the pint of another thread…

BRAVEEEEEEEEEEEES COUNTRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

thank you for an amazon season…. bad thing is… season doesn’t ends in august….

amazon ??? you buying some thing

Cubs looking like they’re going to LOB.

Castro is a good person to have up (I may be eating my words next refresh).

This is beyond pathetic. I honestly can't believe things have gotten this bad
Cubs squandering the lead-off double, two strikeouts by Soto and Wells

Castro the final hope for the inning.

Yes, Quade didn’t pinch-hit for Wells in the 7th.

Time to watch the Cards game because I hate myself

CUBS

2-1!

A glimmer of hope…..you know it’ll get yanked back.

Like I said, we can still back in if the Cards lose 3! (Then get swept of course but it beats a historic September collapse.)

CUBS LEAD 2-1

RBI single by Castro!

KRIS MEDLEEEEENNNNNNN!!!!!

MEDS MEDS MEDS MEDS MEDS!!!!!!

I hope Krabs Medallion is sharp.

Meds, or shall I call you Silver Lining.

Barney is such a pain in the ass to the Braves. I hope he treats the Cards the same.

only good thing we can ttake from todayy

is kris medlen is back !!!

What happens

When James Andrews dies? He does everybody’s surgery.

I hope he has a protoge. Or grooms his son to take over the family business.

His doppelganger Andrew James will take his mantle.

Damn, that was the other thing I thought about posting.

Pray he has children, apprenticed in his art of elbowcrafting?

He does acl’s too doesn’t he?

How rich is that guy, too?
nice play...

still mad thou

Is it me or does Medlen's face look fat as hell?

Compared to last year

I was thinking he looked different….. maybe that’s it

Chip Caray talking about post-season play…

Welcome back Kris
KRABS MEDALLION!

I missed him so much.

Schumaker error keeps the inning alive for the Cubs

1st and 2nd with 2 outs

This LaHair guy needs to hit a HR
dam nice inning !!!!

great job !!!

well bottom half i should say
HITSHITSHITSHITSHITSHITSHITSHITSHITSHITSHITSHITSHITSHITSHITSHITSHITSHITSHITSHITSHITSHITSHITSHITSHITSHITSHITSHITSHITSHITSHITSHITSHITSHITSHITSHITS

Attaboy, Kris!

RUNSRUNSRUNSRUNSRUNSRUNSRUNSRUNSRUNSRUNSRUNSRUNSRUNSRUNSRUNSRUNSRUNSRUNSRUNSRUNSRUNSRUNSRUNSRUNSRUNSRUNSRUNSRUNSRUNSRUNSRUNSRUNSRUNSRUNSRUNS
I'm just not sure what you want.
3 outs left

Do something miraculous, boys.

Sweet inning meds.
if the braves hold on to win this game...

No sex till after the World series….

What?

The Braves are losing 3-0

Does Rosie Palm count?

Do we hit Storen or no?

That question is kind of irrelevant given the way we’ve been hitting in general. But, no.

We didn't yesterday
Closer abuse

Because the more you know…

How about we start with swinging.

Nice zone ump

He, my good sir, is what we call a “Prick Dick!”

CHC 2, STL 1 -- BOT 7

Randy Wells is only at 74 pitches through 6. He’s carving them up.

Freese, Molina, Schumaker due up.

Terrible call on that 0-1 pitch.
Screw off ump, we're trying to make the playoffs here.
bases loaded.. nobody out...
That is where this game died

We seem fragile, to say the least.

Uggla's hit streak

 on the line

Holy shit you gotta swing.

So…

When there are men on that sac flies/weak grounders/etc. will get in, you all swing at the first pitch because lolBraves. But now when you need to score 3 runs with 3 outs, you stare at crap all day?

Yadi just tied it

2-2.

LolCubs

I think it’s still lolBraves

It can be Lolmanythings. Two of which are the Cubs and the Braves

Yep

This floundering embarrassment of a team does not deserve to go to the playoffs.

Great game Chipper
MOLINA HR TIE GAME
Molina homers

Tie game

I'm amazed that Marrero didn't come up with that.
CHC 2, STL 2 -- BOT 7

Yadier Molina solo home run. 0 out.

I’m out. See y’all tomorrow.

welp....

at least there will be a 4 hit shutout against Lee tomorrow.. instead of the dreadful one hit shutout….

Ridiculous play.
Zimmerman makes a highlight reel play.....it was inevitable.
Nice play douchebag
Of course...

Phils back to winning the day before we play them…

Of course that happens

Nats gonna cost us the playoffs. We said it all year
mmm... Yeah..

if zimmerman just made that play…. welp…. hoping for a better 2012…

At least the Cards are putting their pen in now.

there is no way Cards lose that game….

This is just sad

Ballgame.

Time to watch the Cubs.

Rays win, Bo Sox lose
At least something goes right.
And the Angels are winning too

That’s 3 hours of my life I’ll never get back.

This is sickening
thank you nationals....

you just made me realize that i don’t care anymore…. if they win meh… if they lose still meh… thank you Washington….

I hear the golf courses in Augusta are really nice during October!
Bills about to beat the Pats
I can't imagine it's possible

to get any more angry or frustrated with this team. I’m sure they’ll find a way to prove me wrin though, the way they’ve been playing. Pathetic.

Here’s hoping the next three days they just.. break out and play awesome baseball.

I got tickets for tomorrow night. I hope they hit better tomorrow.

The Jack Wilson Jinx continues...
Poor guy...

He played for the Pirates and the Mariners, and he probably thought he was finally going to get a shot with a winning team.

A positive to take away from this

If the Braves miss the playoffs those of us who have bought playoff tix will get our money back!

You should get double your money back as compensation for the heart-breaking disappointment.

Another positive, the young pitchers have pitched well for us down the stretch. Too bad this lineup is so limited in the ways it can score runs. Again, I blame Larry Parrish.

A Haiku:

One up with three left
the hopes and dreams of this year
hanging by a thread.

At least the Cardinals are into their bullpen now
Still tied headed to the bottom of the 8th
Cardinals leads 3-2

Furcal homers

LolCubs. Almost as bad as we are.

One game playoff should be fun

We will be lucky to make that

thats if we last that long

Furcal homers

this can’t be happening…

Nightmare defined
this is why winning tems take care of their own business
such a great feeling knowing we'll have to sweep the phils

Is that assuming the cardinals are going to sweep?

I'm not going to put it past them
They are going to sweep. I'm not even confident we can win 2/3

I’m sorry but I think we’ve blown this

Consecutive series losses to the Mets, Marlins, and Nats

Yeahhh

The freefall started when for the first time this season, we got swept by the Phillies.
Panic Button Engaged

Phils have had a massive losing streak and will come into ATL trying to build momentum for the playoffs. This means we’ll see good pitching. We can’t even hit little league pitching right now. Such a good season to come down to a 1 game lead with 3 to play. It’s going to take us winning 2 games to avoid the 1 game playoff, and I really would like to sit Huddy on Wednesday so he could go Saturday.

Question: What do you get when there are 2 Braves on base with no one out?
Answer: Heartbreak

Top of the 9th coming up in St. Louis

CHC 2, STL 3

Cubs have Byrd, Soto, and the pitcher’s spot due up in the 9th.

Jason Motte coming in for the 9th. This is his 11th appearance in 17 games.

Thunderdome Thread?

Fucking do it..

Fun fact if the Cards hold on

That will make them 4-2 in their last 6 games. In each of those 4…they trailed going into the bottom of the 7th.

Clutch team is clutch
Byrd lines out to second

1 out

Soto strikes out

2 out

Soto K's. 2 down
Soto strikes out

2 outs.

Can't wait to read Fredi's quotes

alot of fucking tip hatting

"We're still leading. We'll be fine."
Reed Johnson pinch-hitting for Wells
I guess this is what happens

When we make fun of the 2007 Mets!!

Well 1 game lead with 3 vs Phils while the redbirds play the horrible Astros at a hitters park. Recipe for success for one of the best offenses in the Cards

Johnson strikes out. Ballgame
Ballgame

Cards win

Cardinals win 3-2

1 game back.

we are in big trouble

Cards play Houston
We play Philly

Right now

If I had just 1 shot to kill someone, depending on Fredi’s quote, I would use it on him.

Thunderdome. Please.
Astros are currently losing 16-1. Maybe they will be a little fired up tomorrow

Probably not though

Maybe being at home will light a fire?

I imagine that most of the fan base is as tight as we are, but the fans in the ATL need to step up the next 3 nights. The team needs…SOMETHING…to light a fire under them. Being at home needing to beat the Phils SHOULD bring out the best in everybody. Guess we’ll see. What a terrible sports weekend…

There will be probably 20k, like a regular weekend game

Tickets for the final game are nearly sold out

But many tickets remain for Monday and Tuesday

Maybe, just a wishful maybe...

Our freefall started when for the first time this season, we got swept by the Phillies. Maybe, just a wishful MAYBE, we can return the favor and sweep the Phillies to right the ship in time. Well, I’m only hopeful but not optimistic with the odds.

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