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Braves vs. Marlins Series Preview: The Last Homestand

Remember when we swept the Mets in New York and everything was looking fairly good? It's hard to believe that series was just over a week ago. Losing 5 out of 6 is no way to close out a road trip, especially in a playoff chase.

Still, there are reasons to be (cautiously) optimistic. The Braves may be trailing in the wild card right now (by a half-game behind the Padres), but they actually are in a pretty good position. In fact, they control their destiny completely. This is because the Giants and Padres play each other on the final weekend, which guarantees that the second-place team in the NL West will lose at least 2 games before the end of the season. In all likelihood, the second-place West team will lose at least 3 games (the only way the West runner-up loses just 2 games is if both the Giants and the Padres sweep their mid-week series, and neither sweeps the other this weekend).

Thus, if the Braves go 6-0, they will win the wild card outright; if they go 5-1, they can finish no worse than a tie for the last playoff spot (and even a tie would be incredibly unlikely). Even just going 4-2 in these last two series would all but guarantee at least a play-in game. There are lots of ways that a 3-3 record can prevent elimination, too.

So what I'm trying to say is, don't give up hope yet. All the Braves have to do is what they've done best all year--win series at home--and they'll be in good shape.

OK, enough about the playoff chase for now. Let's talk a bit about the Marlins. Luckily for us, they have not exactly been on fire lately (just 4-9 in the last 2 weeks). They have been outscored 71-42 in those 13 games. In fact, they were recently swept by the Cubs--at home--while starting the same 3 pitchers that they will be starting in this series (Sanabia, Sanchez, and Miller). Two of their best starters (Josh Johnson and Ricky Nolasco) have been shut down for the season, and star shortstop Hanley Ramirez has barely played lately due to an elbow injury. Their only good starter lately has been Chris Volstad, and the Braves will not face him.

I think it's fair to say that if the Braves can't win a series at home against a depleted and fading Marlins team, they don't deserve to make the playoffs anyway. Read on for the pitching matchups and more.

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Pitching Matchups

Monday, 7:00 ET:
Tommy Hanson (5.94 IP/S, 3.51 ERA, 3.40 FIP) vs. Alex Sanabia (5.18 IP/S, 3.95 ERA*, 3.55 FIP*)
* numbers as a starter only

Hanson gets the call today instead of Mike Minor, which makes sense since Tommy is on normal rest and he's obviously a better bet right now for an important game. In his last start, Hanson pitched excellently, going 6 shutout innings (with only 2 hits) against the Phillies. Sure, he didn't get any run support, but only Jeff Schultz would blame him for that.

Sanabia is a 22-year-old rookie right-hander. He's pitched pretty well this season despite his youth and only having 2 games of experience in AAA. His biggest strength (both in the minors and the majors) seems to be an ability to limit home runs. Just like Jair Jurrjens, Sanabia has consistently posted low home run per fly ball (HR/FB) rates in his career--5.3% in MLB this year and 5.6% career in the minor leagues, compared to league averages of around 11-12%. While the developers of xFIP would say that is just luck, I believe that it is a skill.

In 2 starts this year against the Braves, Sanabia gave up 6 runs in 9.1 IP. He allowed 13 hits and 4 walks, but did strike out 9.

Tuesday, 7:00 ET: 
(probably) Tim Hudson (6.74 IP/S, 2.80 ERA, 4.03 FIP) vs. Anibal Sanchez (6.08 IP/S, 3.60 ERA, 3.29 FIP)

The Braves would like to start Jair Jurrjens on Tuesday, but his knee likely will not cooperate, so they will likely be choosing between Hudson on short rest or Mike Minor on long rest. I'm guessing they'll go with the veteran, even if Huddy has been struggling lately. Starting Hudson on Tuesday would allow him to pitch on regular rest on the last day of the season if needed.

Sanchez, a 26-year-old righty, has had a breakthrough season in 2010, setting career bests in most statistics. He has gotten shellacked in his last two starts, though: 9 runs in 10.1 IP, with 15 hits and 5 walks (against 12 strikeouts). In three starts against the Braves this year, he has put up a 3.93 ERA (8 runs in 18.1 IP) and a 17:9 strikeout-to-walk ratio. He hasn't been dominant in any of those starts, but he hasn't been terrible in any of them, either.

Wednesday, 4:30 ET: 
(probably) Derek Lowe (5.88 IP/S, 4.07 ERA, 4.01 FIP) vs. Andrew Miller (4.11 IP/S, 8.39 ERA*, 5.57 FIP*)
* numbers as a starter only

Assuming the Braves start Hudson on short rest on Tuesday, they'll presumably go with Lowe (also on short rest) on Wednesday. Lowe has pitched his best baseball of the year in his last 4 starts, posting a 1.08 ERA (3 runs in 25 IP) and a 20:2 strikeout-to-walk ratio. If he can give us one more start like that, it would be a huge boost.

Miller, a 25-year-old, 6-foot-7 lefty, was a highly touted prospect not that long ago, but he has never had any success in the major leagues. This season has been no different, as he's given up tons of homers (1.52 HR/9), walked lots of guys (6.67 BB/9), and has yet to go more than 5 innings in any of his 6 starts. He's been particularly bad in his last 4 starts, putting up a 12.89 ERA and a 15:12 walk-to-strikeout ratio, not to mention 31 hits allowed in 14.2 IP.

In two appearances (one start and one long-relief outing) against the Braves this year, Miller has given up 5 runs (4 earned) in 9 innings, with a 7:6 strikeout-to-walk ratio.

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Those pitching matchups look about as good as we could have hoped for. It's time for this team to step up, stop pressing, and put itself back in playoff position. If we can just come out of this series even with the Giants and Padres, we'll have a very, very good chance at making the postseason.

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MUST WIN TONIGHT

We got our best pitcher of late(I think Tommy has been better than Lowe personally) and we need to be within 1 game of the Westerns

No JJ for either teams so hopefully, God willing we can win some games here

Normally I would agree but I think that Lowe has a 1.08 ERA over his last 4 starts. Of course, if you go back further than a month, you’re definitely right.

Love this

We have a great opportunity here to make it into the playoffs. The NL West teams will be beating each other up while we get to play at home, where we’ve been beasting it all year long.

You know, as bad as things are right now...

If I told you in March that the Braves would be a 1/2 game out of the wild card, I’m guessing a good majority of you would take that.

Let’s not forget that some, if not most had the Phillies as the world series champs behind the Yankees. And that was before they landed Oswalt.

It sucks that the division is done, but we’re still right in this thing.

Excellent point.

We’re on pace for 90+ wins. Regardless of whether we make the postseason, it’d be hard to argue that the Braves have underperformed expectations.

And that’s with Chipper missing half the season, and Jurrjens basically being worthless all season with his injuries.

really...

and for the first time in 5 years, there’s a real reason to watch baseball in Spetember……aside from just supporting the team

what about last year?

Shame the Braves picked a September that matters to play poorly
Also... MVHS ISN'T DOING ANY MORE PREVIEWS!!!

Victory is assured!

Lineups (no rest for the weary edition)

1. Infante
2. Heyward
3. Prado
4. McCann
5. Lee
6. McLouth
7. Gonzalez
8. Ankiel
9. Hanson

Going to kill the horse twice...

Hey if it aint broke don't fix it

…wait it IS broke…

If it's broken....

….just keep using it until it fixes itself. That fits better.

Excellet fucking preview....

Thanks for that.

Why doesn't Hinske ever get any PT anymore?

I know he has struggled but he has also had some really big hits for us this year. I’d like to see him get some swings against righties here towards the end of the season. Ankiel had a good day yesterday but he has struggled with the bat for most of the year.

Also, when is bobby going to see that prado doesn’t need to be batting 3rd? Sometimes he is really stubborn with the guys he plays or where he plays them.

Completely agree...

…and I’m guessing it’s because of defense, which is a valid argument against it as it’s bad enough already. But Melky and McLouth aren’t really doing much, and it can’t possibly hurt the offense any.

Bobby has lost confidence in him

So even if he’s dressed, ready and eligible, he might as well be herding goats in Mongolia.

Does it still look like the game will be delayed? I’m in NC and it is awful here.

It might be delayed? Weird. I’m near Atlanta, and the sky is pretty clear.

If it is, it better be before the first pitch

The last thing they need is more 5 inning appearances from the pen.

I'm cool with a delay

I don’t get out of class until 4:30 (or 7:30 in Atlanta), so I’d take a 30 minute delay or so.

Here we go:

Looks good after that.

Bold % is Perciptation
Man

What I wouldn’t give for some 70 degree weather right about now.

So tired of Summer……

We had the highest recorded temperatures for a day out in Jersey over this past weekend. it was so damn hot last week

I landed in Newark yesterday

i saw the first two games at nats park. first time i’d ever been in jersey

And what’d you think of our great state?

Out of curiosity how hot was it?

Our high temperature here in El Paso, TX was 109 this year.

It was like 87-90 which was near, if not the record for late September. But back in July/August it was upper 90s

but in winter we’ll be saying “This is so cold, I can’t wait for summer.”

but in winter we’ll be saying "This is so cold, I can’t wait for summer baseball."

FTFY

The sun’s been shining on the stadium since noon (looking at it right not out of my office window) and the radar doesn’t have anything head towards Atlanta.

It was ugly this morning and all day yesterday, but right now it’s gorgeous out. I think there’s some rain coming at 7ish though: http://www.weather.com/weather/hourbyhour/graph/USGA0028

Lineup

1. Single Machine
2. OBP Machine
3. Hitting Machine
4. Heaptron
5. 3FB=K series
6. Pull Machine
7. SeaBasstron
8. Cannon Arm
9. Cybord

FOR BOBBY! CHARGE

we will go at least 4-2 on this last homestand.

is Pacgnosis covering this series?

and who is covering the last series of the season?

Well he did the preview...

so yes. and Ben will be doing the last series.

yes, no more mvhsbball

that means no losses

See...

I’m not the only person that thought of that :D

Really? I’d have imagined it would’ve been gondeee. Guess not

Nooooo!

Pac covering this series is great, but gondee needs to cover the final series…..unless he’s being saved for the playoffs?

Playoffs??

That said, I still think we’ll reach the promised land…

-C

Don't like Hudson on short rest

He is clearly tiring and the last thing we need to do is put him out there on short rest. Hell if anything, he should get extra rest.

Just can't afford to wait on that....

Minor is also clearly tiring and Jurrjens knee isn’t holding up. Surely Hudson is more durable than Minor. It’s a shame, but there’s not really much else they can do. As the preview stated, starting Hudson tomorrow allows him to pitch on full rest the final game of the season, if needed.

He’d also be setup nicely to pitch the first game of the playoffs, if he’s NOT needed in the final game of the season (a big IF).

But do we really want him pitching the final game?

Is it worth it pitching a tired pitcher on short rest over, say a bullpen by committee?

Final game...

Would be on regular rest IF he pitches on short rest now.

-C

Logistical Question:

If the Braves go 5-1, the Padres go 5-2, and the Giants go 4-2, then each team ends the season at 92-70. In this event, what happens?

I know that to begin with, the Padres and Giants would play a playoff to determine the division winner. After this, the loser of the playoff game should, in theory, play the Braves in a playoff game for the wildcard spot. Is this the case? Surely they wouldn’t hold the loss in the additional playoff game against the losing team and count them out for the wild card as well, right?

Is it possible for the Padres and Giants to finish the season with those records, given that they play each other?

I suppose it is if both teams win their preceding series and one of them sweeps. I’d say that’s an unlikely scenario, though.

A dozen different ways they could tie

If the Padres win 1 more game than the Giants this week, they tie. Padres have 7 games left, Giants have 6.

You missed the point.

It wasn’t concerning ways that those two teams can tie. It’s ways those two teams can tie with each only having 2 more losses.

There are a lot of different ways it could happen.

The Padres could go 3-1 against the Cubs and 2-1 against the Giants, while the Giants sweep the Dbacks and go 1-2 against the Pads (just to name one).

If either of them swept the final series, it would be impossible, of course.

Either could sweep the final and still tie

Padres sweep Reds, 4-0, then get swept, 0-3. While the Giants get swept, then sweep. Tie

Padres split with Reds, 2-2, then sweep 3-0. Giants

Tried to cancel the post, must have posted instead……sorry

Actually, there aren’t “a lot” of ways it can happen. It can only happen precisely the way I said it – both teams have to win their preceding series, and one of them has to sweep.

Padres 3-1 against Cubs, then 2-1 against Giants (Giants would then be 3-0 against Dbacks, 1-2 against Padres)
OR
Padres 4-0 against Cubs, then 1-2 against Giants (Giants would then be 2-1 against Dbacks, 2-1 against Padres)

The issue is that you bound both teams to two losses each, when at least a portion of their remaining records will be complementary, by virtue of them playing against each other. Due to the two loss restriction, neither team can sweep the remaining series (as that would result in the other team having THREE losses).

Found this....

The two teams in the same division play a one game playoff, with the winner declared the division champion, the next day, the loser of the first game, and the other team from the other division play each other, with the winner declared the wildcard.

That's what I thought would happen,

but wasn’t sure. That is certainly the logical way to do it, it would be pretty tough on the team that lost the division playoff though.

Question:

Why are we stacking the rotation (pitching guys on short rest) for this series and not worrying about Phillies?

I think consensus is that if we don’t win the Marlins series, then all hope is already lost.

Yep

And with the off day Thursday, Hanson, Hudson and Lowe would be pitching on day 4 for each, with Beachy available for long relief or a start if needed.

Have we heard anything about a possible Jurrjens start? That would be a real shot in the arm (provided he’s healthy).

I’ve heard nothing, but assume he’s done for the year

The last series Pac previewed, the Braves swept.

The last series Ben previewed, the Braves were swept.

The last series MVHS previewed, the Braves lost 2 of 3.

DO MOAR PREVUZ PLZ

You guys put too much stock into who does the series recaps

Well, we're baseball fans

we’re inherently superstitious.

I’m equally as superstitious but the amount that the topic of who’s covering/records is a bit ridiculous

Here is my plan.

Six games left to play. Take it one game at a time.
Win 1st game.
Win 2nd game.
Win 3rd game.
Win 4th game.
Win 5th game.
6th game should hopefully not matter, but regardless win it too.
Roll into the playoffs with big time MO.

I like where your head’s at.

Someone should get this plan to BC pronto.

He'll respond by starting Melky and Ankiel in LF and CF....

…….then prompt a trade for Jo-Jo Reyes and start him every game.

Is anyone else frustrated by the Braves’ play lately?

ugh. the pencil eraser is worn down to nothing. lol.

McOut is _____________

a) warped by “the TP effect”
b) in the funk of his life
c) not good anymore, in general
d) not even trying, but constantly looking really intense, like Tex

It's raining like crazy down here

on the Southside of Atlanta.

It wouldn’t hurt us to have a rain delay to give our pitchers, and some of the bats, an extra day to rest up (unless of course baseball decides that the make-up game will be Thursday).

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