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Braves vs. Rockies - Series Recap

So I was thinking about it, and I think that was arguably the most frustrating series of the year. Why? Because the Rockies are a good team, and maybe even a great team at home, and we had a good chance to win every game. As you know, we came up short all three times. Combine that with yesterday probably being the worst game I've watched since the meltdown in Philly last season and you have a pretty bad series. 

Game 1 Recap
Game 2 Recap
Game 3 "Recap"

The Good:

1. The Phillies fail at home - If it was the beginning of the week and I told you the Braves would be swept and the Phillies would be playing the Astros at home, what do you think would be the outcome would be in the standings? I'm guessing you'd say we wouldn't be in 1st place anymore. The Astros showed up to play, and are just a few outs away from a 4-game sweep. So we get swept, and we could possibly gain 0.5 games in the standings? Sweet.

2. Jason Heyward - 5-for-12, 3 BB, 2B, 3B; Welcome back, Jason.

3. Alex Gonzalez - 4-for-11, 2B, 4 RBI; Not many hitters showed up on Monday or Tuesday, but Gonzo did. Combine that with his solid defense in the entire series and he continues to be an improvement over Escobar.

Star-divide

4. Brian McCann - 6-for-10, 2B, 2 RBI; BMac also threw Carlos Gonzalez out in the 8th inning on Monday, but the umpire missed the call. It would've been a huge play from Heap, but the umpires wouldn't have any of it.

5. Martin Prado - 4-for-13, 2B, HR, 5 RBI; another fine series from Martin since breaking his knuckle.

The Bad:

1. The Bullpen - 6.2IP, 11H, 8R, 6BB, 8K; That's disgusting.

2. Derrek Lee - 2-for-13, 2 RBI, 5K; It's been a week now, and I'm not very impressed with Mr. Lee. Hopefully some home cookin' in Atlanta will heat his bat up. If not, well, maybe Troy gets his old job back once he comes off the DL.

3. Jair Jurrjens - 5.1IP, 5H, 7ER, 2BB, 4K; Not only is the line ugly, but he was given an enormous lead to protect and he blew it. I'm starting to think we should skip his starts on the road whenever we can. He's just not the same pitcher away from The Ted.

4. 9th Inning Umpiring - Apparently, Houston Street gets any pitch within a foot of the strike zone called a strike. Maybe it's the stupid Six Flags music they play during the ABs, or maybe it's the fat Dinosaur they have behind the plate, but the homeplate umpire's zone was huge for Street in both games.

5. Melky Cabrera - 1-for-9, 1RBI; basically a non-factor in any of the three games.

What's Next:

The Braves will host the Florida Marlins in Atlanta for a 3-game series. Thank heaven for The Ted. It looks like it'll be Volstad vs. Hanson in Game 1, Nolasco vs. Hudson in Game 2, and Josh Johnson (gulp.) vs. Derek Lowe (LOL) in game 3. 

Go Braves!

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Nice job with the justinbait

Cue 900 post argument in 3, 2, 1….

:)

it’s a slow day…

So I wasn't the only one who saw that...
I'm sorry

Why is this justinbait?

comment about gonzalez.

moreso the mention of yunel

That’s funny. I thought it was both that and mentioning Melky as a “non-factor.” Which he pretty much was last series as well.

I know a lot of people on TC like him, but I personally can’t stand him.

I’m with you all the way. But I think every single time I’ve voiced that opinion I’ve been justinbombed. “He’s the reason we’re in first place!”

melky was a factor

a negative one. first pitch outs suck.

You mean the younger, more cost-controlled

version of Gonzalez sans the 17 home runs hit in an AL hitter friendly park?

Team controlled, sure, but not cost-controlled after this season.

No one knows what Yunel will get in arbitration, but it’s no longer going to be near league minimum.

In his first year of arbitration after last season, Ryan Theriot lost his arbitration hearing and still got paid more than Gonzalez will be paid in 2011 with the option the Braves will probably accept. Theriot had worse numbers at the same position, lower WAR, etc., so you have to figure Escobar’s going to be making some money next season.

Start adding up Yunel’s arbitration raises over the next three years, and the value proposition isn’t such a great argument if he continues at his current clip. If he turns it around, he might be worth what he’ll get paid, but probably not much more than that.

-C

Is this the first time all year...

the bullpen has been in the “Bad” section?

I was thinking, and I can’t remember any other series. Maybe for the White Sox.

Bottom of the 9th

Get 3 outs Astros.

1
2
ugh

2 guys on. End this shit.

FINISH THEM
SWEEEEEP!

Who would have thought the Astros could win 4 straight IN Philly?

3 game lead!
Alterraun Verner!
I bet Verner could have beaten the Rockies
This is unbelievable!

The Phillies were sweep in Philly by the Astros!!! WOW!!! You never know in baseball though but dang swept IN PHILLY WOW again! Big, big help 4 the Braves.

We get swept

and we still gain .5 game on the phils. That is how scary good the Braves are.

First 4 game sweep of the Phillies EVER at citizens bank park.

The Astros are now something like 17-6(!) at citizens bank park.

Braves picked a good week to be swept.

Let's Go Astros!
Troy Glaus

He won’t get his job back once he comes off the DL. That is Derrek Lee’s job now. Glaus might make a spot start there each week, but it is no longer his job.

he is trying his damnedest to get the 3rd base job now.

His damnedest isn't nearly good enough
Maybe it is?! Check the ajc

He’s been terrible on defense in his first two games. Not even bad, but awful.

Hey, it's not me saying it, it's the ajc

At this point, I’de rather see Freeman at 3rd than Glaus.

I’d rather see Ken Oberkfell

to be fair

the manager in AAA did make a good point in that we shouldnt have expected him to be re-acquainted with the position over night.

He seems to have been solid over there this week. We will see how he does the next few days

if its not his job

it wouldnt be because of his bat but more so his knees. as of right now i would be more than willing to give Glaus another shot at 1B the way he is hitting in AAA.

I heard he was gonna be moved to 3rd. Do not want to see him there though...
And Carlos Ruiz,

the second-best catcher in the NL, behind Yadier Molina, flies out to end the game!

Haha

that’s funny.

is that you, joe morgan?

I’m not convinced Joe knows who Yadier Molina is. The only catchers he knows are Johnny Bench and Jorge Posada.

I like how we got swept and still gained a half-game on the Sillies.

Coors Field seems to inflict some sort of hex on visiting bullpens.

In addition, Jurrjens actually pitched well in his two road starts prior to this one, so it’s not like he struggles in every road start.

Now that the 2.5 game curse is broken, it’s time to lay the smackdown on everyone the rest of the way!

A few comments

Yesterday’s loss was terrible, but we up by 3 games, and today’s Phillies loss puts everything in a slightly better light.

Despite the loss yesterday, our chances of going to the playoffs actually went UP by 0.34%. Doesn’t really mean anything, but that also makes me feel a little better. Before today’s game, the Phillies’ playoffs chances were 35%. They have seen a 23.9% drop in the past 7 days. Must feel frustrating for them to reel off 20 wins in 20 games, and still be in the position they are in.

I meant 20 wins in 25 games

Thanks Astros- the team that took us out the last time we were in the playoffs trying to help us make it back again!

Watch Lowe

go 8 innings of one run ball against Bizzarro JJ

that would be

his arbitrary one good 15 million dollar start. Like opening day last year against the Phillies

Coming back home to play the Marlins

after getting swept and still 3 games up while the phillies get to go deal with SD’s pitching staff….awesome,

But

We have had all kinds of problems with the Marlins over the years so it’s not a given but point taken though.

As it stands right now

The Phillies are not in the playoffs…..I love how that sounds

If we maintain this lead the Phails would have to sweep one series from us and win the other.

and this week is the perfect reminder that anything can happen,

but I like this weekend’s chances with us against the Fish in Atlanta and the Phails going to San Diego to face a hot Padres club.

Fish play us tough though. We HAVE to win 2 of 3. We need to gain 1-2 games on the Phillies while they are out west.

Not sure who to root for

I want the Phils to miss the playoffs, but I really want home field through the NLCS.

Easy. Just let the Padres beat down the Phillies, then hope they (and the Reds, Cardinals and Giants) struggle the rest of the way.

I'm rotting for the Padres

Even if they sweep the Phils we still have time to catch them.

We gotta make it first. Go Padres.

I was just gonna say that

I love the fact that we play a Marlins team less Ross and Cantu, and they are playing a very good Padres team that has arguably some of the best pitching in the league, lets just hope Adrian plays better against the Phils than he did against us!

it will come down to the last game of the season

if we win, we will win game 7 of the world series
(vs. the Yankees)

the good news is

we´re swept and even gain .5 game lead, but, that isnt all.
Also, it means that there´re fewer games to play and more games lead

I’m glad mvs brought up the stupid dinosaur behind the plate.

I hate that stupid thing..

..with an unreasonable hatred.

Just for Shiggles

So far, Alex Gonzalez has played 38 games for the Braves and Yunel Escobar has played 33 games for the Blue Jays.

AG’s stat line v. Yunel’s:

138 AB, 18 R, 10 2B, 2 3B, 4 HR, 22 RBI, 64 TB, 10 BB, 25 K, .342 OBP, .464 SLG, .275 AVG, 127 A, 7 E, 27 DP, .963 FPCT
136 AB, 18 R, 6 2B, 0 3B, 3 HR, 12 RBI, 54 TB, 9 BB, 17 K, .340 OBP, .397 SLG, .287 AVG, 91 A, 4 E, 20 DP, .974 FPCT

Plus he’s already starting to bug some Toronto players in the clubhouse.

link?

I'll 2nd that

request for the link…would love to read that article.

I think

that it was sarcasm.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100824&content_id=13870804&notebook_id=13870810&vkey=notebook_tor&fext=.jsp&c_id=tor

I also rember reading some teammate quotes regarding this ejection that didn’t seem overly supportive, but still looking for those.

ha – must have been a magic word.

and that’s with Esco playing in one of the best hitter’s parks in baseball, and Gonzo playing in one of the better pitcher’s parks in baseball.

i would be interested in seeing Gonzalez’ home/away splits since coming to Atlanta…it seems like most of his power is on the road. I may be very wrong on that…that just seems to be the case.

Can't figure away without finding out how he did during Interleague...

But his slash line at Turner Field is .303/.368/.474/.842. That’s better in his ATL totals in all respects, and better than his totals for the season except SLUG (.487 in 2010 v. .474 at Turner Field).

He’s had 2 HR, 2 triples, and 3 doubles at Turner Field thus far. He tends to hit more doubles on the road, but all his triples and half his HRs came at home.

-C

i hear some people complain about Gonzalez defense

if we analice those number.
Gonzalez FPCT = .963 vs .974 of Escobar

That means that Gonzalez made 3.7 errors per 100 plays and Escobar 2.6 errors per 100 plays.
but Gonzalez had turned 7 more DP and had made 36 more assist.

To make a better conclusion we need more data, like how were those errors

I don’t think I want to know what analice are….

hahaha, I was thinking the same thing. I think they make a spray or a powder for that.

sounds very cool and soothing

Also...

Most of those errors came in one week (or it felt like that)…

It wasn’t a week, but he did kinda rapidfire them after getting here. I’d say over the first three weeks.

I think this is another reason we should all hold off our Judgment of the D. Lee trade….this guy was on fire right before we traded for him, he JUST got back from a back injury and had some trouble catching up to some fastballs, but I don’t think 10 games is enough to start placing a grade on this trade, I have a strong feeling he is going to catch fire once again. A. Gonz didn’t start producing for us right away either.

someone should make a stat that adds strikeouts to GIDPs
cause I know..

…Gonzalez has more strikeouts, but I bet he was less GIDPs

you would lose that bet – both have 4 GDP post-trade.

3% of PA for Yunel while a Brave this season, 2.6% for Gonzalez.

10.1% K/PA for Yunel, 16.1% K/PA for Gonzalez

.334 OBP for Yunel as a Brave v. .342 OBP for Gonzalez

-C

also adds how many flyball turn into 2B because he didnt caught the ball

Wait, what? Phils lost and we didn’t lose? Didn ’t get rained out? Baseball Gods, you confuse me!

2.5 games lead curse is over

it´s time to take more advantage

I just worry about the flip side of that coin. Wouldn’t mind riding out a 2.5 game advantage till there’s only two games left.

2010 is going to come down to game 159-162

with the season as crazy as it is (All the second places in the each NL division have a legit shot at the Wild Card), this season will come down to the last week. It’s just that simple. No lead is safe and every series is big. Let’s take two of three from the Fish and forget Colorado ever happened. Go Bravos!

I'm going to Game 160

Hopefully they clinch it then, but i won’t cry if they do so before then.

Someone earlier said that they were hoping the Phillies wouldn’t know what to do because we don’t have a game today and that they would fail because of it. Looks like he/she got their wish.

oh, I think this was me.

I at least thought something similar to this, and I seem to remember forming that out into words.

So yay me! I hope they keep “phailing” against the Padres this weekend, too.

Yes, yay you!

I’m nominating you for Offficial Braves Oracle. Keep up the good work.

Unrelated....

….but Freddie Freeman is having an eerily similar season to his 2008 season, just had a higher level….

2008:

.316 AVG
.378 OBP
.521 SLG
.899 OPS
18 HR
95 RBI
5 SB
46 BB
84 K’s

2010:

.317 AVG
.378 OBP
.522 SLG
.900 OPS
17 HR
83 RBI
6 SB
43 BB
82 K’s

So we have no choice but to assume that those will be his 2011 numbers in the bigs.

ya alright

you expect him to put up those numbers in the bigs? you must be crazy.

Don’t you know that there are 162 games in the bigs? I expect at least 20 HR’ s and 110 RBI’s over a full season. You need to get with the program.

Is there any way I can find his lefty/righty splits?

I don’t think baseball-reference shows them for minor leaguers.

http://www.minorleaguesplits.com/

2010 splits
vs. LHP: 0.287 0.331 0.454 0.785
vs. RHP: 0.320 0.388 0.534 0.922

not bad, not bad at all
He hits lefties better than most of our RH hitters
don´t forget he is in top 5 in some hitting categories in IL

3rd AVG
6th OBP
3rd SLG
3rd OPS
3rd RBI
4rd R
1st H
2nd 2B
1st TB

considering that FF is 20 years old and the only guy low than 25 years old above him in some of these hitting stats is Desmong Jennings, who is 3rd in Runs Scored

get er done at home

the series with the rockies was the worst i’ve watched this season,especially the last game. it looked to me and the fellows i watch the game with that jj stopped pitching and just started throwing. once the rox got the big MO in their favor the game was theirs. the braves better get their collective heads out of their asses and start playing like they want to play in the post-season or they can watch it on t.v. GO BRAVES!

Positives from this series:

1. The Phailes (i’m proud of this nickname)
2. Jason is Back (and Prado, just for good measure)
3. Freeman has apparently already won Rookie of the Year for next season with an estimated .900 OPS
4. We almost won 2 of three at coors field. ( i know this is a strech)
5. Go Braves!

1. Please don’t tell me you think you thought of that
3. Except we all KNEW JHey was going to win RotY at the beginning of 2010 and that looks unlikely now.
4. Right…
5. Yes

ROY for Jason

is not out of the picture. If he has a monster September, helping us make it into the playoffs, I say he would be the favorite.

Go D-Backs!

One step closer to HFA!

big weekend ahead

I think the pitching matchups favor us Friday and Saturday nights, not so much Sunday. We can’t allow the epic fail Wednesday in Denver to beat us more than once. We need to get some early run support for Hanson and Huddy, and let them do their thing, and I’m confident that we win the series. The Phillies have a tough series in San Diego, so there is potential to gain some ground in the standings if things go our way.

It's just sad to think...

If we’d won even one of those games we could be up 4 right now, that’d be huge.

Glass half full....

You have to look at the positives and how this all shaped up….we got swept by the Rox at Coors field (not a HUGE surprise)…the Phillies got swept in a 4 game series to the ASTROS at HOME!! I love the way this all worked out, and I’ll take it anyday!

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