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The Weekend That Was

Robinson Lopez throws through the shadows Sunday afternoon in Savannah, as Edward Salcedo looks on from shortstop.

Robinson Lopez throws through the shadows Sunday afternoon in Savannah, as Edward Salcedo looks on from shortstop.

Just a quick note that this is really, really long.

I spent my July 4th weekend taking a last minute trip to see a few minor league baseball games. I started out from Atlanta on Friday afternoon and headed to Augusta, Georgia, to see the Augusta Green Jackets. The stadium was pretty nice, my first time there. It was just outside of downtown and part of a public park and lake complex. It was an older stadium, and pretty small, but a nice quaint park and a good and relaxing place to watch a baseball game.

From Augusta I headed to Myrtle Beach on Saturday, taking back roads to avoid the throngs of people streaming into the strip. The Pelicans park is really nice, and much nicer than I expected. I guess just coming from Augusta I didn't expect much, but the Pelicans park is as nice as any of the Braves minor league stadiums, and one of the nicest minor league stadiums I've been to.

Keep reading after the jump, again, it's long, but it should be worth it.

Star-divide

A few weeks ago I got a submission for the view from your seat series and it turned out to be the Pelicans Media Relations guy, so thanks to several emails back and forth with him I had a press pass to the game. I got to talk to Rocket Wheeler, the manager, and spent a while interviewing Mycal Jones (which I will post later in the week). Both guys are real nice. In the press box I met the Pelican's beat writer for the Sun News, Ian Guerin. He does great writeups for the paper which are all available online, and he also live tweets each game. If you're looking for updates about the Pelicans, definitely follow @iguerin.

The bonus of the Pelicans game was that I got to see Julio Teheran start -- that was actually the line I got from everyone there, "came down just to see Teheran, didn't you?" No, that was just coincidence, but a very nice coincidence. JT started off really rough, throwing 35 pitches in the first inning, and struggling with his command. Even Wheeler admitted that Teheran was struggling with command of his pitches. Teheran also seemed to really telegraph his changeup, noticeably slowing down his arm action. When I asked Wheeler about that after the game he indicated that Teheran was just getting under the pitch too much, but when he did get on top of it he was throwing some good ones. His fastball was living in the mid-90's, topping out at about 95, and his changeups were in the low 80's with great movement. That one bad inning aside, Teheran looked pretty darn good, especially for a kid throwing against guys 3 or 4 years older than him.

Teheran didn't impress me as much as I thought he would, but as I re-think that I have to say that my expectations of him were way too high. For a teenager to be that good at advanced A-ball is pretty amazing. With that said, I am still keeping him as my top prospect in the Braves organization, but I'm moving my timetable for him to reach the majors back to 2012. He'll need a full year of development and refinement next season between double-A and triple-A.

None of the Pelican's hitters really did much, but the guy they were facing was a former double-A pitcher, so they may have been a bit over-matched. I was impressed by Mycal Jones at the plate, but much more impressed with him in the field. He's quick enough that he might be able to stay at shortstop, even though a lot of scouts think he won't. Cory Harrilchak goes up a few notches in my book too. Quick hands and an aggressive approach to the plate with some good overall athleticism. I don't really know that I see him as anything more than a Gregor Blanco who gets it quicker, or a poor-man's Jordan Schafer, but I think he could get to that level fast and be productive in that kind of role. No one else really stood out. Tommy Palica looked great in his two innings of relief, but he should be in double-A, not back in Myrtle.

Overall, I really enjoyed my one game in Myrtle Beach, and I recommend that Braves fans who are fans of the minors make an effort to get down there at some point to watch a game. Besides that Myrtle Beach is a great vacation spot, that's even more of an excuse to get down there.

From Myrtle I headed over to Savannah to see a game at historic Grayson Field, where the Rome Braves were the visiting team. And just my luck, I got to watch a Robinson Lopez start. Much like Teheran, Lopez suffered form one bad inning where his command failed him. Overall, though, he pitched great, especially in the heat and humidity of the day. He had to go to the rosin bag a lot, so the sweaty conditions must have been affecting him a bit.

Lopez works real fast out of the windup, but when he gets into the stretch things really slow down and trouble seems to pile on as his control deserts him even more, especially control of his fastball, which he seems to overthrow. He was night and day with the bases empty and runners on base. I ran into Mike Newman from the blog, Scouting the Sally, and he mentioned that Lopez' bullpen before the game includes almost no warmup pitches from the stretch. This is certainly going to have be something that Lopez will have to work on. Overall, though, Lopez moves up a few notches in my book, all the tools are there.

So yeah, I'm sitting there tweeting about the game and I see Mike's tweets about the game. So we eventually met up and talked for the second half of the game. Scouting the Sally is a great blog with really in-depth stuff on the prospects that Mike gets to see. Definitely some of the best free scouting info anywhere. We talked for quite some time about the Braves prospects, many of which we were both seeing for the first time.

Todd Cunningham was someone that Mike was pretty high on, but I wasn't too excited about him. His approach to hitting seems to be away away away, all the time, even early in counts. And while he looked good doing it, I just can't see the value in a corner guy (wherever he ends up, he DH'ed that day) with no pull-ability. He was also a lot smaller than I thought he'd be -- he's a generous six feet, which is what he's listed at. I'll give him some more time, but right now I'm kind of "meh" on him.

Mike was pretty high on Riaan Spanjer-Furstenberg. He liked RSF's quick hands and ability to attack pitches. It didn't hurt that RSF collected half of the Braves' hits that day, but he looked good in every at-bat I saw. I still worry about his power and if it will translate to the upper levels of the minors. Mike was also not big on Robby Hefflinger, says he takes the same swing big every time. I'm still bullish on Heff, and I think his power will eventually come through, but he may need a more flexible approach to the plate, lest he turn into a poor man's Cody Johnson.

After Lopez I got to see Matt Fouch make his pro debut. He's a 34th-round pick from this year's draft out of West Point (not West Point, Georgia, but West Point the military academy). He's a well-built, but not thick lefty, and he put on quite a show from where I was sitting. His fastball was sitting about 90, and his off-speed stuff had great movement to it. He really impressed me.

Oh, and there was this Edward Salcedo kid there. Gosh he's raw, but all the tools are there, and I think he'll hold his own this year. Mike mentioned that Christian Bethancourt was also another great prospect on this team (though he didn't play on Sunday), but another guy who is extremely raw in all facets of the game.

Mike made an interesting observation about one of our pitchers who was not in the game, calling J.J. Hoover the most average prospect he'd ever seen. He didn't mean it in a bad way, but rather that there's nothing too exciting about Hoover, but there's also not too many negatives about him, which led to Mike creating the "Hoover line." This is the line by which all prospects should now be judged. See Mike's explanation here. I really like the measurement, as it's good to have an established baseline to judge prospects against.

Anyway, that was my weekend. Pretty darn fun for a baseball geek like me. I was pretty bad luck, though, as neither Braves team scored any runs for the two games I was at. I highly recommend all three parks I saw, with Myrtle being the highlight, though Savannah was also pretty cool, especially for an old stadium. And both are good reasons to make excuses for visiting those two cities.

Thanks to Mike Newman, Ian Guerin, Tyler Maun, and Anthony Masterson for making this an even better trip that it would have been.

More pictures to come in a FanPost... and maybe some video!

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Comments

Small damn world...

wish you had let me know you were coming to the Disgusta, my work has front row seats next to the 3B dugout, and I’d have certainly loved to be your host. Also, went to school with Ian’s wife. They are great people.

Wow

That’s a small world. Speaking of, last night in Savannah while I was having a late dinner at the Six Pence pub, I struck up a conversation with the guy sitting next to me, who as it turns out went to my high school — a good two decades before I did, but still, that’s crazy.

The Six Pence Pub

I used to go there with my parents when I was 5 years old.

Ooo, wow.

You know you’ve been there too long when you so casually use the word “Disgusta”!

Or that you dated a girl from there in college for a while...

and had numerous friends from the area that all used the term.

Cunningham

The best thing a young hitter can learn is how to have a inside out approach at the plate. You can always teach a hitter to turn on the ball but going the opposite way is much harder. How was his defense? Did he look fluid in the OF and his arm strength good enough for CF/RF? Cause if not there’s no way he’s going to be able to play 3B unless he’s super accurate.

Cunningham DH’ed.

Nice read....

Enjoyed and am looking forward to the pictures!! We’ll be in Myrtle Beach next week for three games and now I’m even more excited. Love @iguerin ‘s tweets, maybe we’ll get to meet him when we are there. Thanks so much for sharing!!!

you'll want to me his wife too...

both are pretty entertaining, and she’s about as much of a sports nerd as he is.

Wish I would known!

I would have been happy to let you buy me a Shandy and some Bangars & Mash.

I sort of “ended up” there, if you know what I mean.

Good post

I don’t usually read books, but I liked this one

Myrtle Beach is my favorite minor league park, with Durham as a very close second (it would probably be first but it’s in Durham not Myrtle Beach).

That wasn’t actually Fouch’s pro debut, just his Rome one, but you’re the boss so I’ll let it slide.

I like the take on Hoover, and I’d agree with it. He’s just plain solid. I think once he gets switched to the pen full time in AA or AAA he’s really going to take off.

Argh! I guess I missed Fouch’s time with Danville. Dude still hasn’t given up a hit.

How much beer was consumed on the trip?

really good info, and it definitely wasn’t too long

Good write up gondee, and it looks like it was a good weekend for you. If you’re not busy tomorrow get you a ticket for the Gwinnett Braves afternoon game and come sit with me and take pictures/video and talk baseball.

I would like to see Minor again, but right now I loathe driving.

Thoughts on RobLo?...

when I saw him earlier in Augusta, he didn’t have great control, more often down than up, with several in the dirt. Other than the control, I liked what I saw.

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