Talking Chop

Greetings SuperNewb

Chipper Jones won’t get traded he has a 10 years of Major League Experience and 5 years on the Braves for his no-trade clause so he can veto a trade whenever he wants.

JustaBrave - July 31, 2010 reply

he was kidding ;)

apoxonbothyourhouses - July 31, 2010 reply

weird

i live in Prague, too.

and there’s a BRAVES fan, too? where you live? I’m in Hradcanksa.

You LIVE in Prague???

You are now my hero.

Can you tell the little black man that wears the red suit and red hat that tries to get people to go into his strip club that I said hello? He works on one of the main streets that leads into Charles Square.

Sounds like an awkward friend to have

He promised me free shots if I would go to his club…he still owes me.

UpstateNyBravesFan - July 31, 2010 reply

STAND PAT WREN

Keep the faith and the prospects…. fear is the darkside of the force

fizzbot - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

not sure what fear and prospects have to do with it…

FF is the only prospect that could possibly come up this year and we have a pretty good guy at his position right now anyway. Any move today is about this year and giving Bobby a proper send off.

SuperNewb - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

The point of prospects is not what they can do this year. If you can pull off a trade (even for top prospects) that can bring in a legitimately good player then I’m all for that, but I don’t want to see a trade for the scrap or career-year regression candidates (Hello, Alex Gonzalez!) that make up most of what is left on the market.

And we’ve actually had one of the worst starting 1B in baseball. Out of 28 qualifying 1B, Glaus is 22nd in WAR. Of course, you couldn’t expect Freeman to do any better as a 20-year-old.

Ron A. - July 31, 2010 reply

Say it with me...

HELLER.

+7.38 Interwebz to all ye who got that obscure reference. But fer realz… luke scott, Luke Scott, LUKE SCOTT…

J-Freak - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

Hey guy I see Clevlan got DFA'd

I wonder whats up with that?

Out of options

Blanco will take his roster spot. Doesn’t mean a move us on the way, though its worth noting that we only have 39 guys on the 40-man anyway.

J-Freak - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

Options didn't matter...

he’s been up and down already, so that isn’t it. DFA means removing him from the 40 man, not sending him down. There is a difference. And we have 38 guys on the 40 man last I counted (Luis Valdez is restricted and shouldn’t be included).

Actually, my dear sir, options DO matter. Options are used up by the year, not by the callup. In other words, if this were an option year, we could option him back to AAA again as often as we please within the “cannot be recalled again for 10 days except in the event of injury” restriction. How many trips he makes back and forth is completely and utterly irrelevant. But it’s not an option year. Meaning that to get him off the 25 man roster in order to make room for Blanco, we have no choice but to DFA him, thus exposing him to waivers, because we no longer have the ability to option him back.

J-Freak - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

Clevlen started the year in Gwinnett...

so unless we purchased his contract to call him up or something, we’ve already used an option on him this so, so hence why didn’t matter.

Can we get clarification on this?

If he’s signed on a minor league deal he can start off there, but without options he can’t be returned once called up. Unless he clears waivers, in which case we can assign him back to the minors or release him.

J-Freak - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

thanks Freak

didn’t realize he had been up and down so much when he was a Tiger. I guess that explains it.

UpstateNyBravesFan - July 31, 2010 reply

just blanco being recalled according to twitter

SuperNewb - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

Alright thanks guys! I just had to read into it a little bit…

Pujols.

That is all.

frozendesert - July 31, 2010 reply

I'm calling it

Out of nowhere, the Braves get Fielder and Hart for Minor, Freeman, Melky and a handful of our awesome young minor league pitching.

I know the Brewers have said that they are “too close to contention” to trade Fielder or Hart, but they are 9.5 games out at the moment… and it makes no sense for them not to trade those guys.

They need pitching, we need hitting… it just seems to match up well for us, despite Fielder’s massive girth and douchebagginess.

If Grand Poobah Whiny Fag comes over here, consider me a Red Sox fan. Also, I hope Bobby punches him in the dick.

J-Freak - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

37 times.

But, still, he’d be a welcome addition manning first in my book. I’ve always liked Glaus, but he just looks as beat down as Brett Myers wife at the moment.

I’d let Glaus and Chipper split time at 3rd and rest them both a little bit.

And

We’d have him for this year, we’d have to give him arbitration next year, and then he’s gone, and we’re stuck once again since we traded Freeman for a rental.

Melky could go and I wouldn’t care. But I’d hate to see Minor (local boy, umpired a lot of his high school games) and Freeman go though.

And I can’t stand Fielder, some player’s abilities aren’t worth dealing with their stupidity (See Yunel).

FW would never, EVER trade for fielder

not after the HBP fiascos. can you imagine the headache FW would get thinking about the deterioration of team chemistry?

There’s gotta be something brewing that we don’t have a clue on…

Haven’t you heard? We’re in the hunt for bullpen help!

Well, cross Qualls of the list.

I did hear we were interested in Downs.

We have so much of that sitting in the minors right now….

Seriously.

Well, according to MLBTR and elsewhere...

we;ve acquired Michael Noboa from the Dbacks to help DSL for some reason, sent Mitch Jones to the Pirates for cash (hope he plays for ‘em), and cleared Clevlen off the 40 man giving us (by my count —http://mlb.mlb.com/team/roster_40man.jsp?c_id=atl , 20 pitchers since Valdez doesn’t count, 18 position players, and if Clevlen has been removed as MLBTR reported, that gives us 17 position players and 37 players total). So we’re up to something it certainly seems.

Frank Wren makes me smile…that motorboating son of a bitch.

So what does all that mean if we stand pat?

That Freddie and Minor get called up.

I’d be ok with FF, but where does Minor go? To the pen? That seems like a waste.

Well, Minor would take JJ’s spot in the rotation after we trade JJ for Kemp, but if we stand pat, that means there is no JJ trade, so I guess I jumped the gun on Minor.

JJ for Braun or McCutcheon, gets your fantasy straight

You just took this to Jesse Jane levels.

Jesse Jane......

I’ll be back in 15. :)

Add Riley Steele and make it 5 minutes.

apoxonbothyourhouses - July 31, 2010 reply

actually

JJ + another pitching prospect (Delgado) should get us Kemp.

Ask Wren...

I’d expect we add a 3rd C eventually (be it Sammons or another) for depth in September. Maybe Glaus is about to be DL’d to rest his legs, and they’ll call up Freeman or Canizares. Maybe they are making room for Scott Proctor, or Matt Young. Could be a number or reasons.

I don’t understand why they always add a 3rd C – isn’t that what Diaz is for?

Emergency C and 3rd C are different in my mind...

I think Diaz can catch, if he has to and everyone else goes down so we have to put someone there. Having a 3rd C makes sense when we get to September, especially with Ross and McCann so that if one’s starting, you can use the other’s bat in a pinch hit spot but still have someone else that can adequately work behind the plate if need be. I doubt they trust Diaz to really do a good job back there, and would much rather have Sammons or someone else.

A condundrum....

Do I post about what I want to happen and who I want to trade for or who I think the Braves will trade for?

Hmmmm

both

Would love to hear it.

I WANT

the Braves to land Matt Kemp to play CF. Trade Kawakami, Minor, Delgado, Johnson and Vizcaino (yeah yeah, I said it) to the Dodgers for Kemp and a BP arm.

Then platoon Nate and Diaz in LF and Glaus and Hinske at 1B. Bat Kemp second and move Heyward back down to the six-hole.

RHP:
Prado, M.
Kemp, M.
Jones, C.
McCann, B.
Hinske, E.
Heyward, J.
McLouth, N.
Gonzalez, A.

LHP:
Prado, M.
Kemp, M.
Jones, C.
McCann, B.
Glaus, T.
Diaz, M.
Gonzalez, A.
Cabrera, M.

Our future pitching staff relies on those prospects

Wiping out three of them in one trade would be just brutal. I like the idea of Kemp, but that package is overkill.

switch Delgado for Schafer (if he still has any worth)

but Minor and Vizcaino would have to go to make the deal even plausible.

the dodgers are not

getting rid of kemp…..especially now that they got ted lilly and ryan theriot… matt kemp goes no where

d1gram420 - July 31, 2010 reply

So, if Prado’s finger is broken, does that make it more likely that we make a move?

Wait, what? His finger is broken???

In that case, bring back KJ!

X-rays were inconclusive last night on his right pinky, he’s being examined again today.

How did he do that running the bases? Was it on a slide?

Yeah. He slide head-first into home and his right hand got caught under him.

And this is why I was taught in highschool to run while gripping your batting gloves in your hands.

Hand got caught underneath him sliding into home.

Sliding in to home on the Heyward go ahead double in the 10th, his body came down on top of his right hand.

We may have to because with the current roster I’m not sure who would lead-off and do well at it.

Almost has too doesn't it?

One would think it’d add incentive to trade for a bat, for sure.

Breaking News................

Mitch Jones traded for cash!!

Are you being sarcastic? I can’t tell.

If not, that happened yesterday, and it was talked about quite a bit.

Yeah. It was kind of a running gag last night in the game thread.

My fail.

NP

It is early. You can tell today is the trade deadline. The joint is hopping.

Hopping?

It’s like Christmas morning.

I wonder what we get…

Frank Wren was at the Pink Pony last night making it rain

I am pretty confident

that if Martin Prado is out for a long time (4-6 weeks or something like that) we trade Kelly Johnson. That would be a good fit in multiple ways.

I support this post.

That'd be fine, but...

…I wouldn’t want that to be our only move.

I really want a RH CF.

I’d rather get a corner OF, and move Heyward to CF for the duration of this season, then get a CF in the offseason. When I say corner OF, I mean like a Choo or a Braun or a Kemp – a BIG bat, no Cody Ross crap.

I’d take Ross if he came with Uggs.

Move Prado to 1st/3rd next year.

Arrest me for heresy, but...

I don’t think Heyward would be good in CF in the long-term (long-term being the rest of the season as opposed to the last few innings of a couple of games due to defensive replacements.

He wouldn’t, long term. That’s why I said for the duration of this season and get a CF in the offseason.

kemp's a CF

*for Kelly Johnson I mean

I would love a CF also....

but who is out there that is trading for? Matt Kemp? I’d be shocked if the Dodgers moved him. B.J. Upton is headcase material. DeJesus is out. Posednik is gone. I’m not really sure who else.

My option for the OF. Get Josh Willingham somehow (don’t know how likely), put Gregor in CF for the rest of the year, or if you want to keep the Diaz/Hinske platoon, move Jason to CF. That is what I would do. But I’m not a GM lol.

what about Marlon Byrd from the Cubs?

Luke Scott > Willingham, for the simple reason that Baltimore is not a division rival stubbornly asking for the moon in return.

J-Freak - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

Wishlist:

Matt Kemp
Jacoby Ellsbury
Luke Scott
Marlon Byrd
Brett Gardner
Josh Willingham

My version

Dunn
Choo
Braun
Willingham
Gutierrez
Ellsbury
Scott
Kemp
Adam Jones

I know he was in talks this winter,

but is Choo still on the block?

And no way in hell Braun goes anywhere, unless the Brewer’s LFer has a brother who plays CF that I didn’t know about ;)

My list is not realistic at all.

No it is not...

and changing the subject, with the flurry of crap over the last day or two, I checked some old archives to see what got shoved down and I missed. Proctobombs can be pretty funny some times. 4-5 days after a post has been dead, probably not even on a front page or anything, and somehow he pops in with like 10 comments. WTF Bomber?

I love that guy.

The best part is when he Proctobombs a game thread, and answers the question “Anyone know tonight’s lineup?” that was asked 2 hours prior to game-time, and he doesn’t show up until the next day.

Does he get off on having the last word (even when no one else will notice)...

and why does he skip live and currently active threads to blast away in ones a couple days, if not a week old? It’s like his computer is on an extreme delay or some shit. Just weird.

Dude, that would put his computer at 10-4 levels. lol

I mean, I know that I enjoy a good debate, and you do too, but that guy…wow.

No, I agree...

he’s pure argument for no reason. Like Markakis would use a no trade clause to stay in Bloodymore, Murderland instead of coming to Atlanta, or Prado is “mediocre”.

Remeber the whole “Schafer didn’t break his arm!” deal?

Yeah, he makes us look agreeable somehow...

at least we have common sense and can either be reasoned with or agree to disagree while seeing the other side’s point.

and with Cleveland, anything is possible. They are not very well-run right now.

EDIT

Dammit, I did not mean Ellsbury. I meant Sizemore.

I'd like Ellsbury a lot...

especially if he didn’t cost what you’d expect him too (based on how he was a year or two ago), I’d definitely like that, sticking him in CF or LF and at the top of the order. A healthy group of him, Odarp, Chipper, Heyward, Heap, and Glaus is a pretty good start in my eyes.

Isn’t Baltimore known for over valuing their players and being difficult to deal with?

To a degree, and that’s the Angelos influence, but at least Baltimore didn’t come out and say “any team that gets Scott is going to hurt a lot more for getting him than we will for giving him up.”

J-Freak - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

Any Truth to the rumor...

On trading for Jacoby Ellsbury from the sox? That could be the best pick up with out breaking the bank on a slugger type.

Hanson-Ace - July 31, 2010 reply

Where did you find said rumor?

If it’s just from talks here, then no – only wishful dreaming.

I’d LOVE a true lead-off hitter to put Prado back in the two-hole and move Heyward back down to sixth.

Not wishful thinking- reported on MLBTR. As per FW’s MO, there have since been no confirmations that we are or aren’t nearing deal, and there’s always the possibility it was a smokescreen, trying to drum up interest in Ells while Franky makes a run at someone else. He seems particularly wily when trying to get something done.

J-Freak - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

I’ve been on MLBTR since 1 AM your time, and I haven’t seen anything of the sort. Have a link?

You wouldn’t have, as this was about 3 days ago. And I’m posting from my Droid, and have neither the battery nor the patience to go digging for the link. Sorry.

It wasn’t a very meaty rumor, basically just stating that the GMs have spoken about him without saying whether we were close to a match or not, and there’s been no followup in more recent days.

J-Freak - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

Droid >>>> iPhone.

no way >> in hell

Kidding – I’m just biased ;)

Droid is the fastest selling smartphone, IIRC.

It makes me mad that Verizon is getting the iPhone in January – why? They already have a better phone. I want the Apple fad to die.

but "Droid" is such a vague term now

and describes any one of like ten different phones.

No phone individually has matched the iPhone is sales :P

Of course not. Because, Apple is a fad that all the kids like. Most professionals use either the Droid or Blackberry.

iPhones are just like shiny coins – kids would rather have a shiny coin than a dirty dollar.

And apple is the only one that makes Iphones...

not sure on droid or blackberry, but if they can be an overarching name with several different makers, that skews stats. But then, I’m not that tech savvy so they may be exclusive to one company like Iphones.

Only Blackberry makes Blackberrys, but Droid is manufactured by several different companies.

When I say Droid, I only refer to Android – the others are kinda crappy, IMO.

Blackberry is exclusive to Research in Motion, but Android is an OS, not a device. Google wrote the software, but multiple manufacturers including HTC, Motorola, and Samsung produce handsets powered by Android.

J-Freak - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

thanks freak

THIS

Wait- the ViPhone is Now confirmed? I know its been speculated for over a year now, but I missed thus little nugget where its gone official.

J-Freak - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

Someone here got an email from Verizon asking them to pre-order. My friend that works at Verizon said they weren’t getting it as recently as 2 months ago.

Don't blame the kids - the kids are our future :P

I don’t think “fad” is the right word.

It’s more the idea that the iPhone came out first, and Droid is seen as the attempt to recreate it on different networks.

The Zune may in fact be a hundred times better than the iPod, but the iPod will still sell more.

It’s harder to beat the stop than stay on top.

And to make this back on track – one reason I am so glad the Braves are still in first at the Deadline.

Plus, let’s don’t forget they got that cute little apple logo on ’em.

I own nothing Apple except my iPod, and I won it in a contest. LOL

My theory on Apple – They are very innovative, but they can’t stay above the competition for long. Look back to the 80s when Apple/Mac led the way in home computers. Then Microsoft caught up, passed and blew them away in the 90s. Now, in the 00s, Apple has created a new technology (the touch-screen) and are leading the technological charge again. However, Windows 7 is better than any Mac OS, and like has already been mentioned, the Droid, Zune, etc are actually better than the iPhones.

It won’t take long for people to recognize.

Windows 7 as an OS, maybe.

But most people would prefer a Mac over a PC for numerous issues if finances weren’t one of them.

I own two desktops and two laptops in my home, and none are Macs. Namely, because I am a poor college student and cannot afford them, not because I just have a ‘happy’ for PCs.

I wish some people would write viruses for Macs and just end that whole “advantage” they enjoy.

It might take longer than you’d think, because Apple has succeeded at creating a market of Sheeple who, every year, chuck out their 45th generation iDevices to go out and acquire- by paying the same full price they payed last year for their 45th gens- the brand new 46th Gen iDevices, now with marginally improved volume controls, 1 oz less weight, and… TWO shiny apple logos.

J-Freak - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

Don’t forget the whole “iPad is soooooo COOOL! It’s like an iPod, only BIGGER!”

“Dude, it IS an iPod, only bigger…”

or, the financial-savvy of us...

Wait until said 46th gen devices come out, and then buy the 45th generation cheaper ;)

I just bought a 160GB ipod from 1saleaday.com for $150.

It is replacing my 2nd generation 4GB Nano that I have had since 2004.

coughhypocritcough

kidding ;)

Why? I use an iPod when I work out. I found a great iPod for $150. It was a steal.

Where’s your Zune?

or Wal-Mart brand mp3 device?

or cassette player?

I don’t have a Zune, bc I have a 4GB Nano that I got as a gift back in 04 – before the Zune ever came out.

Traitor.

I used a Creative Zen Vision:M, which was technically superior to whatever the iPod Gen of the time was in 06. I went directly from that to my Droid this April. But my Zen still works lime clockwork, and I use I while running so as not to risk my shiny new Droid.

J-Freak - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

And this is why I have an iPod – so that I don’t mess up my droid.

Alright fine. You can have your +1 interwebz back.

J-Freak - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

Alright fine. You can have your +1 interwebz back.

J-Freak - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

FARK

12 hour graveyard shift + another 12 hour graveyard shift tonight + low battery + accidental double post = time for sleep.

J-Freak - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

Alright fine. You can have your +1 interwebz back.

J-Freak - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

Can I have my +1 interwebz back?

No, you can not

DAMMIT

Every post I’ve made on this thread has been from my phone, yet that’s. he only one That decided to triple up on me. I don’t get it.

J-Freak - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

Damn Straight.

Rekkanize.

J-Freak - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

This

heap16 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

I’ve checked MLBTR religiously and haven’t found anything.

If not Ellsbury, maybe Cameron?

Just remembered...

Ellsbury is on the DL still, isn’t he? That means he couldn’t be traded even if the Sox wanted to trade him for Jesse Chavez.

This sentiment has shown up a lot in recent days, but it’s absolutely untrue. Remember the Peavy deal last year? It technically requires league approval, but that’s just a formality usually and yes, someone on the DL can indeed be traded.

J-Freak - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

Good to know, thanks!

Misinformation fail.

Does the league have to approve or just the team have to waive a physical?

I read somewhere that it requires league approval, but that certainly didn’t stop the Peavy or Mark Lowe deals.

J-Freak - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

OK...

like you say, it has to be a formality or just something they keep up their sleeve for extreme cases.

I’m not even sure what would be considered “extreme” anymore. MLowe got traded and then promptly transferred to the 60 day DL to make room for someone else, and word is he’s out for the year, yet that deal whizzed right through.

J-Freak - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

But he wasn't exactly the main piece of that deal...

Lee and Smoak were. I’d assume it’s reserved for say an extreme salary dump or obviously collusion type deal. Say like we sent Chris Resop to our old friend Dayton Moore for Zach Greinke.

I’d have to change my pants.

J-Freak - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

Ellsbury > Cameron

I’d assume the Red Sox would want something to help them now. Maybe KK and a lefty reliever, plus a lower prospect?

I’d do it in a heartbeat. I feel bad for KK pitching in Boston though…not really a fly-ball pitcher’s park.

Why do we waste him so?...

I don’t get that either. Is he hurt? The guy can actually pitch pretty well, and Bobby is smart enough to know that. Something ain’t right.

You know my feelings on the subject. It’s one of the few things that the org does that pisses me off.

But that's just not like Bobby Cox...

he knows how well Kenny has pitched, and knows how he’s been in the past. He plays favorites sure, but he at least gives his end of the line guys work from time to time, and can use him like Chavez or others. 1 time in a month, really?

And it isn’t like Meds has torn it up in the rotation. I think KK in the rotation and Meds in the pen makes for a better team all around.

I don't go that far...

I think Medlen has been great as a starter. But KK can be a decent reliever at least like Chavez.

Meds was tearing it up in the rotation … until this whole thing where they started pushing back his starts and having him work out of the ’pen started up.

I thought he looked pretty good last night...

one bad inning before he got plunked and had to sit (which coincidentally would have been a perfect time to call on Kenny if he hadn’t been atrophied).

Have you not seen how Bobby uses his bullpen for the past few decades?

Cameron would be a great pick up for the stretch run…

Hanson-Ace - July 31, 2010 reply

I am reading on ESPN right now how tons of scouts are ripping the Oswalt deal – saying that Oswalt 2010 is not Oswalt from 5 years ago. I gotta say, first impressions for us look pretty good.

Good, let the Phils phuck up

..."Phillies not dancing after Oswalt's opening waltz "

This headline on MLB made me smile :-)

8:40 jcrasnick: I’ve talked to 3 scouts in D.C. who’ve seen Roy Oswalt multiple times. Not one thinks he’s looked ace-like this season. #trades [via Twitter]

Saturday July 31, 2010 8:40 jcrasnick
8:41 jcrasnick: "I’m not sure he’s the answer,‘’ one scout said. "I would have kept the left-hander (J.A. Happ) myself.’’ #trades [via Twitter]

Saturday July 31, 2010 8:41 jcrasnick
8:42 jcrasnick: "He gets in trouble when he pitches up in the zone and guys lay off that little curveball,’’ the scout said of Oswalt. #trades [via Twitter]

And to that I say

Is that me and you…?

No, just a happy monkey...

but if that’s where your imagination went, I don’t know how to respond.

Sanchez: 1 Justin: 0

Dude, your score is way behind.

It’s like 231-230. lol

Quit living in the past!

It’s a brand new day!!!

ha

My count is 413-102

My advantage isn’t THAT large. Give yourself a little more credit than that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvOHbxBAEN8

So math is not you're strong suit I see...

Mornin' all.

Having coffee with fresh baked (still warm) Strawberry/Raspberry/Blackberry/Blueberry Nut Bread and catching up.

A bit nervous about today. Wrenn has this way of surprising us doesn’t he?
Hope we don’t give up too much if a trade happens.

.
And, is there a gauge for when you officially “Proctor-Bomb” a thread? I just caught up on the post game one and hope I didn’t go that far. LOL

Hey there!

that's a lot of berries with your nuts

Hehehe, it was a “mixed variety” in the package of frozen ones I bought. It’s really good.

I'm sure...

I love a bunch of berries. Nothing beats real fresh from mama’s farm.

With the horrid heat this summer around here, the yields have been slim. Blueberries have done well, but other stuff suffering.

agreed...

but they grow different varieties. The strawberries and blackberries came in before the heat, so it was sooooooooo good. Store strawberries just don’t match up. Different variety used for size and preserving long term. Their kind are smaller, and don’t stay fresh long, but they are so, so sweet. It’s awesome like Joey Votto.

Within 24 hours isn't bad...

it’s 36-48+, and having several “I disagree” posts. You’re safe.

hahaha

Whew. Good to know. Certainly don’t need yet another reason to get on the “list”.

Carlos Lee for Prospects

Could the Braves acquire Carlos Lee for a collection of prospects? He seems like the right handed power bat we’ve been seeking. Lee’s having a down year, but he’s signed through 2012. Houston would probably have to provide some financial aid to complete the deal.

His contract is atrocious. No thanks.

It’s irrelevant anyway. He has a full NTC and has stated repeatedly he’s staying put. He wants no part of a trade.

J-Freak - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

Roy Oswalt was making the same kind of statements before being dealt to Philadelphia, a winning and contending team.

I know his original deal was 6 years, $100 million. How much is left to be paid?

a lot...

at least half of it.

Year Age Salary
2010 34 Houston Astros $19,000,000
2011 35 Houston Astros $18,500,000
2012 36 Houston Astros $18,500,000

Houston would have to pony up some serious financial aid. I didn’t realize Lee was in his mid-thirties either.

I would cry myself to sleep tonight.

No thanks....

to Mike Cameron…why do we want an overrated OF who can’t stay healthy and isn’t very healthy, that is 37 years old?

Our best bet (for team reasons and most likely reason) is Marlon Byrd. He’d be great here. Put him in the #2 hole.

And as I said earlier, if Prado is out for a while, we are going to get Kelly Johnson. Not sources, but I can definitely see making that happen.

If anything, Cameron is an UNDERATED OF. Granted, he has health issues, but he still hits 20-25 HRs every year, plays well-above-average defense and gets on base at a good clip. He would be an immediate upgrade to anything we have, and is a better option to anything allegedly out on the market right now.

I'll grant you one thing, ...

you stay loyal with your memes. KJ, Cameron, etc.

I was convinced by others on Cameron. I wasn’t a big fan of him at first, but after stepping back and looking at it, he makes tons of sense, or did make tons of sense at that time.

And KJ is a good ballplayer. And he hit another HR last night – on the road, in Citi field of all places.

Just sayin...

once an idea gets in your head, it digs in deep.

It’s because I am Irish.

Kettle's new name, Red...

But, seriously, I didn’t do it.

Sorry...

but he hasn’t shown much when’s he’s healthy this year.

According to fangraphs, his UZR rating is -8.0 this year. Only 4 homers in 48 games, and his OBP is .328. NO thanks

UZR for 1 year is like batting average for 1 game.

I'd rather have Melky and Gregor ...

for the rest of the year than Mike Cameron. We aren’t that desperate. His defense is down (you can tell by watching), his offense has been bad this year, and he’s had problems staying healthy. There would be no point in giving up a prospect at all.

No No No No 4 HR’s 15 RBI’s. I wouldn’t say thats 20-25 hr’s every year unless he goes on a tear

Well, of course, he has to actually play to, you know, hit HRs.

And he to be healthy to actually play, you know

Right. But, he is healthy now, right? I honestly don’t know.

He's playing, but not exactly healthy...

Jul 27 CF Mike Cameron, who has been playing through a painful lower abdominal tear, left Monday night’s game after the top of the ninth inning. After diving back into first base, he said the injury began to act up. But he’s hopeful of being able to play Tuesday night. “Sometimes, as the game goes on, it gets just a little cranky,” Cameron said. “It’s just the same thing as always. Some days are better than others. Today, it was just cranky all day.”

yahoo

I'm hoping Prado's inconclusive x-rays last night were because he was swollen from the trauma.

Praying today brings clarity and it’s not broken and he will be fine once we’re back at the Ted.

Same here...

he’s been MVP for us, and deserves to be top 5 in the NL voting as of right now.

Another question:

Are we sure Glausosaur is going to get back on track? Seriously, I’m getting worried. He hasn’t shown anything in a month. I hope he gets it back together.

I think, like HeyJude has mentioned before, that he’s hurt and is trying to play through some pain.

A few days off (even 15) just might bring us the old Troy back for the final stretch.

How about a full platoon for a while?

A Hinske/Glaus platoon at first might do them both some good, eh?

If we get an OF.......

i’m for that. But if not, we have to use Hinske for LF’s in platoon.

Not really, Matty D can play full time in LF for a couple of weeks, or you can just platoon him with Blanco if you really don’t think he can handle RHP like he did last year …

THIS

Diaz has shown he’s not bad if playing daily, see last year.

Absolutely!

Just let Glaus sit for two weeks...

see Heyward, etc. That kind of rest can really do good. And if he’s healthy after a week and a half, he can rehab to get back going and come on strong from day 15. Find one stretch with an off day or two to let him miss as few games as possible. Unfortunately with Gonzalez and Prado and everyone else going down, we can’t afford it.

PS

This is like the worst time to have to sit starters for extended periods of time in order to get healthy.

im new

and was wondering who we were more likely to trade for

TS BOBCAT - July 31, 2010 reply

Cody Ross

tears

EDIT - homonym fail

That would be “tears” as in water from the ducts in your eyes as opposed to how Heyward tears the cover off the ball.

Pujols.

OK, seriously, the most likely candidates seem to be Cody Ross, Mike Cameron, Jacoby Ellsbury, and just maybe Marlon Byrd or Luke Scott. Though there’s an equal chance that we trade for No Body.

J-Freak - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

is No Body a righty?

MBL1 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

Bats: S. Throws: S. And when he hits homers, doves fly out of his ass.

J-Freak - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

Uhhhh….

MBL1 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

TONS of good reading up there too ^ ^ ^ ^ ^

Maybe we can see what Freeman has....

and put Glaus on the DL. We really, really need him to get healthy for the stretch run

McLouth, KK, and Lowe for Lester and Ellsbury
Glaus for Pujols

World Series here we come.

Next stop, Never land!

Yay!

Heyward will fly us there.

I topped that the other day...

McLouth, Lowe, and Noboa for Utley, Halladay, and Werth.

Hah

Nice.

IDK. I think Noboa is untouchable.

BEST TRAID EVAR

MBL1 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

i like tht haha but iv heard some things about Corey Hart

TS BOBCAT - July 31, 2010 reply

Hi internet people!

MBL1 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

No. EVERYBODY wants McCutchen – everybody from every team.

Would you give up Jurrjens and Teheran for him?

Yes.

no

JJ, mclouth, a minor league arm not teheran, minor, or delgado

So, to get a top notch CF (a big need, btw) who is under control for years and is making league minimum, you would not give up one of 5 top quality starting pitcher prospects???

This is classic over-valuing of your prospects. We have depth. Depth does us no good if we don’t dive every now and then.

The trade you propose is a rip-off of epic proportions.

I would do one of JT/AZ/JJ

plus Minor, Melky (no way they take McLouth back), and any two positions prospects they want aside from that SS we got earlier this year.

Who is AZ?

Vizcaino

MBL1 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

That would be AV…right?

YOU’RE the Assman???

J-Freak - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

Que?

Seinfeld reference. My brain got the “ass” sound from reading AZ, and I can’t help myself. I spew Seinfeld references At every available opportunity because I am the master of my domain.

J-Freak - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

hahaha. I am not a fan of the show – and I am about the only person I know of that is not.

Oh. Then perhaps I should tell you that “master of my domain” is also a Seinfeld reference. Pelican?

J-Freak - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

Pelican.

i see

i’m just being stingy

Nope.

But you might be the only one who thinks:

A: The Pirates would be willing to trade him

B: The asking price wouldn’t be:

JT
JJ
Hanson
Heyward
Freeman
and your firstborn child.

another reason to hate that city!

Just you. I’ve heard the Pirates tried to just give him to us, but Wren laughed in their faces.

What's his OBP?

.363

Not too shabby. Probably could stand to walk more, because I imagine he gets quite a few infield hits.

and that's pretty consistant for a one-and-a-half-year player.

Put up .365 last year.

Has 42 BBs this year.

Heyward has 51, to put that in perspective.

Very nice.

BTdubs

Having a healthy Heyward back in the lineup was like Frank Wren making a trade for Pujols. I love that big 20 year old kid. :-)

Dear Prado

You can use my pinky! I’ll cut it off and give it to you.

MBL1 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

Two questions...

what are the Yankees offering for Berkman?

And would you include Hanson in a package for Braun or McCutcheon? I think I would, depending on who else had to go with them on either side. I love Big Red, but he has had his struggles and little blips on the screen. Plus it’s not like we lack high upside young arms, and we do lack an impact OF bat from the right side.

That was a done deal, just not officially announced.

I would include Hanson in a package for either of those two guys, but not another one of our front -line prospects.

Probably not for McCutchen.

I’m not sure why.

I'd consider it if it was one of the lower level...

I think Lopez has a lot of work to do, and Vizcaino’s injuries worry me. Not a Hanson and Minor/Delgado/Teheran, but maybe another.

And I know, just wondering what the Astros are getting as I haven’t seen that anywhere. Just that they are paying a good bit of Berkman’s deal (Ed Wade may now be passing Minaya and Moore as the most inept GM. He gives up both veterans, AND eats a lot of salary, AND doesn’t get any good prospects for them, that’s triple fail

this pic doesn't really make sense in this context

but ok

Ed Wade had a triple fail...

1) Dealing the faces of his franchise
2) Paying their salaries
3) not getting any good prospects for them

yea i get that

but the triple fail in the pic is clearly talking about something else

FAIL

on assessing the relevance of fail images.

There should be a fail image of that.

:(

[sobs in corner]

O YAH

WELL YOU FAIL AT LIFE

MBL1 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

:(

you guys are meaniepants

I’ll take that.

Sure it does. It’s triple fail.

Well, it depends on the rest of the package, but I’d deal Hanson for either of them.

IDEA

Sign Heyward’s lil bro Jacob. So what if he’s fifteen? HE HAS THE SAME BLOOD OF JASON.

MBL1 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

interesting

Pirates just called up infielder Argenis Diaz and first baseman Jeff Clement from AAA. could we be getting garrett jones or neil walker? just speculating, of course

perhaps

MBL1 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

They just traded for Chris Snyder…I’m not sure if that fits in with this somehow…

Turns out, I was right

9:31am: The D’Backs will receive Bobby Crosby and Ryan Church in the deal, tweets Jack Magruder of FOX Sports Arizona. This explains the call-ups today of Argenis Diaz and Jeff Clement, to some extent.

wow

the dbacks keep getting shittier and shittier

Can we take a vote?

to let the D’backs keeps their players until after they get done playing the Mets?

I’m already upset the Nats traded players after the series against the Braves and during the series against the Phils…

How come all of the selling teams are getting hosed on deals?

Buyer’s market?

D-Backs got a really good deal for Edwin Jackson

But mainly, I think it’s the no-trade clauses. A lot of players being moved aren’t going for the best packages since they have to approach their end destinations.

I thought Ryan Doumit was their C

He was

He has abismal defense, and his bat is ok. I think they may be trying to move Doumit, but they don’t want him to be their starter anymore. Reports say he’ll be splitting playing time all over the place.

I’d gladly take Garrett Jones though. Put Heyward in CF and let Jones play RF.

What's the tradeability of Byrd?

LOLMETS

SI_JonHeyman
#mets offered ollie perez and luis castillo for carlos zambrano but #cubs didnt want castillo, too.

i can just imagine the convo:

MINAYA: yo jim, how about this? you give me big Z, and i’ll give you ollie…..
HENDRY: deal!
MINAYA: …. and luis castillo
HENDRY: whaaaat? fuck that. castillo is a dealbreaker.

hahahahaha.

Wait, the Mets were offering 2 hispanics for 1?

That doesn’t sound like Omar.

weight-wise

zambrano counts as 2.5 hispanics, so net gain in latino-ness

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Well-done.

Why not throw in Frenchy?

MBL1 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

cuz then

the mets would have to pay the cubs a hazardous waste removal fee of $20 billion

I like your tag, in what context is Chipper saying that?

Jeter had everything handed to him on a silver platter? That’s my guess.

I know of meant, what was the question that made him say that. I’m sure he didn’t just randomly start bashing Jeter.

Woopsies

Typo, (I kind of meant)…

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/draft2010/columns/story?columnist=kurkjian_tim&id=5249761

it was just him being funny, not bashing Jeter or anything

MBL1 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

it's from this ESPN article that talks about loyalty

Thanks

Gwynn and Ripken made sacrifices to stay with their team. It was in an article a couple months back about Chipper.

MBL1 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

Fine, fine...

if you don’t want Castillo, how about Francouer? Your fans will love him and he’s great in the locker room. Anything you want out of him, just put it on the scoreboard. Seriously, he’s like Ron Burgundy that way.

Well folks, I’ve got to get some sleep before my second graveyard shift tonight. Crossing my fingers for one of Byrd, Cameron, Ellsbury, or Scott. See you guys after the deadline.

J-Freak - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

g'night

What’s the precendence for TC forum posts on Deadline day?

We had a ton last season – especially on the Francouer trade day.

You mean FT Day? That was great.

It was like my generation’s version of VJ Day.

lol.

SI_JonHeyman
#marlins, winners of 10 of 14, are looking for relievers now. not looking to trade cody ross or leo nunez

Thank Pujols!

i just realized

florida is tied with the mets in the standings

Man I'm really hoping to hear something like this

Brewers get:
Jair Jurrjens – SP
Melky Cabrera – OF
Randall Delgado – SP
Jordan Schafer – OF

Braves get:
Ryan Braun – OF

that would be legit. I think thats realistic

Texastriplecrown - July 31, 2010 reply

but who would fill his spot in the rotation then? KK?

the cow - July 31, 2010 reply

Or Minor

One of our 7 or 8 SPs.

Lol yep

We have a number of guys who could step in and do the job.

switch JJ

with KK and Chavez

hawves - July 31, 2010 reply

And then get hung up on.

quickly lol

yeah i know

overly optimistic…

hawves - July 31, 2010 reply

like it

personally of our pitchers I am most willing to see jj go. Delgado would be tough to lose. I’d rather do something like vizcaino and Hoover in place of Randall.

blindsided789 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

You have to give to get

And if we could get a bat like Braun i’d make that deal in a heartbeat. Teams would shy away from Vizcaino right now because of the injury issues and Hoover is an average spec nothing special maybe a 4/5 starter but more than likely a RP.

yeah I know

that’s more wishing than anything. vizcaino is still a good prospect even with the issues, although we have no idea how serious they might be. Hoover is more filler to make up the difference between Delgado and viz. maybe there would be someone else we could put in there too to make up the difference. I’m just a huge Delgado fan and I would hate to lose him.

blindsided789 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

dang

i ~~love~~ hate time differences. I want to see a new CF in a Braves uni when i get up tommorrow.

hawves - July 31, 2010 reply

Wren is a FANTASTIC GM????

That’s the kind of thinking I would have expected on the official boards rather than here. I guess my definition of “fantastic” is a little different than yours. Number of playoff appearances by the Braves since the “Wren era” – ZERO. I would call a Wren an average GM. Nobody is perfect, but honestly would a “fantastic” GM do the following?

1) Sign Lowe to a contract so large that it would weigh the team down like an boat anchor, forcing them to trade a younger and better pitcher to save money.
2) Sign Kawakami to a 3 year deal. I really like Kawakami, but as much as it pains me to say it, he’s not been worth the money he gets.
3) Trade Teixeira for peanuts to Los Angeles. Granted he’s not the idiot who traded the future to rent Teixeira, but he got nothing in return for him.
4) Trade for McLouth and Church.

I expect no trades by Wren. I think we’re stuck with what we have right now. Remember this is the same “fantastic” GM who failed last year to release Greg Norton when it became clear that Cox was never going to stop using him. So I don’t expect the kind of thinking from Wren that it takes to field a winning team this year. He’ll stick with what they have because he’s terrified of making a bad deal. Honestly given his track record we might really be better off that way.

Zontar - July 31, 2010 reply

Where’s the fail graphic? Or better yet, the Jesus facepalm?

Sorry, I had to do it.... What about....?

1. Trading Edgar Renteria to the Tigers for JJ and Gorkys. We all know how fantastic JJ has been, how mediocre Renteria was in Detroit, and then Gorkys….

2. Trading Gorkys Hernandez, Charlie Morton and Jeff Locke to the Pirates for Nate McLouth. Gorkys was flipped, Morton has been a wash, and no one has heard from Locke. Yes, McLouth is having a down season, but this trade did not cost us any prospects and Nate could turn it around and have an incredible rest of the season (already with two HRs in his AAA starts).

3. Trading Teixeira for essentially Adam LaRoche. Cleaning up the mess left by JS, FW gave us one of the most productive hitters in last season’s second half.

4. Trading Tyler Flowers, Brent Lillibridge and two other prospects to the White Sox for Javy Vazquez. Javy was without question the best pitcher on the staff last year.

5. Trading Jose Ascanio for Omar Infante and Will Ohman. Ohman was a decent LHRP for us, and just look at ALL-STAR Infante now ;)

6. Addition by subtraction in shipping Francouer to the Muts (I bet they now regret that one…) for Church who could easily be non-tendered with no PR problems.

I beat you, 6 – 4.

I have no problems with Wren, but...

Realistically, JS was the guy who put (1) and (5) together, but I suppose Wren can share in some of the credit

(2) is looking like a horrible deal

As atrocious as our outfield has been, Francoeur would have probably been an asset to us this year as sad as that sounds. Not that Church ever did anything anyway.

Really picking up Javy (4) was the only move on this list that looks good in retrospect.

And we could probably add a few more bad moves to his list, like non-tendering Kelly Johnson.

yeah, obtaining Jurrgens was not good at all.

No way in hell Frenchy makes our offense better this season.

(2) Horrible in what way?? We didn’t give up anything of value to get him. And he was good for us last year. Yeah, he’s been terrible this year…but we got more of out McLouth than the 3 guys the Pirates got from us.

dunnytwogloves - July 31, 2010 reply

Think of the salary. He makes $5M this year, $7M next year and has a $10.5M option (LOL) in 2012 that will cost us $1.25M to get rid of. That’s a good chunk of money flushed completely down the drain, that could have been put to better use. We are under relatively tight financial constraints and deals like McClouth, KK and Lowe eating up 30% of our payroll over a three year window is really hurting us.

(I left out Chipper because he’s earned the right to be overpaid for this club)

You can’t ignore money when assessing a GM. That’s one of their biggest responsibilities – managing the payroll. Talent evaluation has more to do with the scouts.

And if you say you saw him becoming what he is now

then you’re a liar. 20/20 hindsight is lovely, but you are a liar if you say that trade looked bad at the time, adding a decent CF where we needed one, for a starter who’d never play, a CF who can’t hit in AA, and an A ball arm that had stalled out and was looking like shit.

Of course I didn't see it

I was a little lukewarm on the move, but I figured he would at least be a decent acquisition. I had no complaints.

But I don’t get paid millions of dollars a year to make these decisions. Wren does, so he’s not above scrutiny and criticism far beyond what we hold the casual message board fan to.

I can’t hit a 90 mph slider either in case anybody wants to jump on me for trashing Nate.

At worst 2 is a wash.

A fantastic GM would take a 75-win team and turn them into a 90+ win team within a year or two without selling the future for the present.

Why post deals that haven't totally worked out

Why not post all the good deals as well that Wren has made.

Haterz gots ta hate.

Wren needs that Haters <3 me pic.

I prefer the “they see me rollin’ they hatin” one with the overly obese female in the rolling shopping cart going down the street…

was just about to post that.

lol

My grade for FW is a B+ (so far).
Pretty damn good, but not great and not fantastic (yet).

less then 5 hours left, make a move please!

MLB Network is great

The best!

I love this network, they ar all ove the trade deadline!

LUDWICK AVAILABLE???

WTF….i’d take him over Ross

just heard

maybe going to the Padres

hot Tweet:

Padres are deep into talks to get Cardinals OF Ryan Ludwick.

And they need a 4th/5th starter...

we can send them KK plus a prospect, maybe a reliever too.

well per mlbtr...

Cardinals are close to a Jake Westbrook trade.

They are saying on MLBN that's it's pretty much done...

so I guess that’s a no

ohh ok

yeah MLBTR

has it as a three team deal

Padres, Cardinals, and Indians

Make it happen Wren.

Not sure he can play Center….but i’m sure we could find a way to make it work.

He can play CF...

…but I’m still not sure if he’s the type of player we need.

Granted, a far better option than Ross.

Under team control through next year

So that’s a positive, he wouldn’t just be a rental. But then again, I hate the idea of trading for a RF from the Cardinals for a pitching prospects…..the curse of Adam Wainwright

Nevermind

Scratch that idea, he’s going to the Padres sounds like

Ludwick to Padres

pretty much a done deal, guess that is out

Didn’t we almost get Ludwick for Frenchy straight up last year?

I think

that was just a rumor, Cardinals arent stupid

I think it was to be for KJ

over the 08 winter

I have only heard the rumor – never substantiated.

adding on to the above

JJ, JS, Resop, and AZ for McCutchen? Would that get it done?

BlueVol03 - July 31, 2010 reply

doubt it

who is AZ?

I think he meant...

AV? Arodys?

DuPu - July 31, 2010 reply

ohh that makes sense now.

yeah

late night……. meant AV

BlueVol03 - July 31, 2010 reply

Padres out of deal

Joel Sherman reported that it’s just a 2 team deal b/t the Cards and Indians, Padres fell out of the deal apparently.

Now he's saying

Padres are still in

Also I remember Braves were in talks w/ KC for Greinke, maybe the 08 off season as well for Frenchy and a couple mid prospects but both teams backed out. Braves thought Frenchy would have a break out season and Royals thought the same. Royals were right, braves wrong

Buster_ESPN: Heard this: Padres continue to work on Ludwick-Westbrook-Cardinals three-team deal; it’s still going, as of 12:14 Eastern time. #trades [via Twitter]

Just saw that

I hate the trade deadline, never know who and what to believe

Prado not in lineup tonight

MBL1 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

Trading for Pujols

but Gonzalez is back in at short. Infante is playing second.
I have a feeling Wren will make a deal at 3:59 EST

MBL1 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

God I hope

HeywardFTW! - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

how reliable are your feelings?

I got a feelin

Oh yeah

Lineup...

Infante 2B
Heyward RF
Chipper 3B
McCann C
Glaus 1B
Hinske LF
Gonzalez SS
Cabrera CF
Jurrjens P

for the Reds…
Phillips 2B
Cabrera SS
Votto 1B
Rolen 3B
Gomes LF
Bruce RF
Stubbs CF
Hanigan C
Arroyo P

Anyone else find it weird that it's taken so long for any difinitive word?

mlbbowman

1. Still no update on Prado. He arrived at the stadium about 30 minutes ago. #Braves 6 minutes ago via web

Perhaps a smoke screen by Wren so as not to appear desperate and thus drive up asking prices for say, a Kelly Johnson?

lol

Quote fail

No. Pretty sure he’s hurt.

no kidding?

I think we’re all wondering how hurt though. Like day to day hurt? Or 15 day DL hurt.

I’m guessing day to day. If it was more significant, I’d guess we’d know that by now.

yeah

If he was not hurt, they would just say something

LOLWhiteSox

The Dodgers aren’t paying Manny’s salary and also trading him to you. Ken Williams must be high or insane.

or both

MBL1 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

haha seriously

Clearly Insane. I laughed when I read this

“The White Sox made a failed run at Manny Ramirez, report Ken Rosenthal and Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports. Ramirez has over $7MM remaining on his contract, and Rosenthal tweets that the Sox wanted the Dodgers to pay all but $1MM and did not want to send any players to Los Angeles.”

In other words, We’ll buy him a plane ticket, and get him to Chicago. We’ll call it good

Wtf lol

HeywardFTW! - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

I don't even get the logic behind that. lol Is that even legal?

Erin6 - July 31, 2010 reply

have you been reading

a fake news site

MBL1 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

MLBTR

Is where I got that information, it was first reported by Ken Rosenthal.

On trade day, real news = fake news

Anyone excited for shark week?

HeywardFTW! - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

The week sharks dedicate to Heyward? Sure, I’m going to Georgia Aquarium to give Heyward jerseys to the sharks

MBL1 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

+22

Get me hart!

HeywardFTW! - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

or give me death!!

And I doubt Hart is going anywhere….

("so my choice is ‘or death’?)

I’ll have the chicken then.

better be happy I’m “Church of England”…

“Hey, look up there. It looks like transvestites. F#@!, they’ve got guns!”

"I poked a badger with a spoon"

“Ah, yes, the vegetarian, yes! There we go, Mr. Hitler. There we go… Like a bit of wine? Thank you very much…you Nazi shithead!”

You killed a million people? Well-done!

I came second, I’m from Turkey! I don’t know! Would you like some furniture?

This building is exactly as it stood 50 years ago!

Eddie Izzard references FTW

they are all one show

Probably the most overlooked standup in history.

Slut Bumwalla!

It’s not really a maneuver at the moment; more of a gesture.

Did I leave the gas on? No, I’m a fuckin’ squirrel!

..but do you have a flag?

You can’t claim this, we live here.

Paris, no snakes; London, no snakes. San Francisco, full of fucking snakes!

Don’t call me Judy.

I want to put babies on spikes

They taste like chicken.

Well, we’re not gonna. We’re gonna have a sandwich

lets get manny!

Micah Cotton - July 31, 2010 reply

I shudder at the cost that would require.

trade him for a prospect and they pay all of his contract!

yes, I am Ken Williams.

Manny for KK

Straight up

No to Manny. We got rid of Yunel cause of his attitude. Imagine his attitude in the club house.

I was reading in SI – or may be it was elsewhere – that the thing with Manny is he’s loony / mentally off than attitudinal.

Um, nothing except your purity

hahahaha ha
ha haha
but seriously, NO

MBL1 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

Sneaky Frank Wren is gonna surprise all of us today, i can feel it.

10-4 - July 31, 2010 reply

Did you try to post this 3 hours ago?

We’re getting Adam Dunn and Josh Willingham for Jesse Chavez and Jordan Schafer

how reliable are your feelings?

is official, Padres get Ludwick and Westbrook to Cards.

gaY

Padres confuse me

Last year they were trying to shed payroll and get a bunch of prospects. Now they’re taking on payroll and giving up prospects, with the hope that this crazy run takes them to the promised land.

When you have a shot at the playoffs in your site, you take a chance. You don’t wait for some theoretical point in time to hope all your cards are in line. This is their chance.

dunnytwogloves - July 31, 2010 reply

Difference btw first place and last place. Since last years all star break they have one of the best records in the league. They have great pitcher and good defense, now they are adding pieces on offense. Sounds like a pretty winnable strategy to me.

CharlotteChop - July 31, 2010 reply

I don't care about trades

CLONE HEYWARD. PLEASE

MBL1 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

That would rock :)

JC29 - July 31, 2010 reply

I don’t think the Braves possess any chronatons.

Heyward can make it happen! DON’T QUESTION THE ALMIGHTY HEYWARD

MBL1 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

Bubblegum Tate disagrees with that.

I skipped to the end b/c I did NOT feel like reading through all that, although I'm sure it was quality...

so if this is repetitive my bad. I’d like a good #2 hitter with a high OBP, that’s it, just a high OBP, and a good career OBP so we know it’s legit. That way, we can move J-Hey back down to #6. The dude is hitting a retarded .397 w/ 2 out RISP…make it happen Franky!

foxrobe - July 31, 2010 reply

Wren: I’ll trade you guys Jeff Francoeur, Manny Acosta, Jo Jo Reyes, 3 all gold buffalo coins, 11 cans of spray paint, and a signed copy of L. Ron Hubbard’s Dianetics for Albert Pujols

IforgetthenameoftheCardsGM: DEAL! (thinking to himself: Suckers.)

Wow....I woke up and expected a move

Maybe we aren’t doing anything.

Nope

Just managed to miss out on Ludwick, who I would assume came fairly cheap

I don’t think we are. Maybe something minor in August.

Are you sure you're awake...

you might just be in a second dream

+100

This

That’s what I thought too I hope he has something up his sleeve.

HeywardFTW! - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

I have a feeling we get Bautista and end up giving 1 of our top prospects and a couple other good one’s

I don’t like the fact that the Jays are wanting the house for him

Can you blame them? Dude isn’t going to ever be as valuable as he is right now.

More I think of it, i would love to get Bautista. He is leading the majors in freakin home runs and hasn’t slowed down. Who would you give up to get him? He is a left hand bat but a power hitter for sure and can play 3rd or OF

Giants talking to AZ about Kelly Johnson

The Giants are in talks for Diamondbacks second baseman Kelly Johnson, tweets Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports. He says the Giants like the fact that Johnson can also play left field. I imagine they’re also keen on the fact that he’s under team control for 2011.

Emphasis on the “play left field” part…

"yeah Doug, ya told us"

Sanchez: 2 – Justin: 0

-1 for him slowing the thread down!

-22 for hatin

I see you rollin

z

+∞

Per me:

Are we talking to anyone, about anyone?

I’m starting to think FW got smashed at a party last night and is still recovering this morning.

WHY IS THERE A TIGER IN THE BATHROOM?

What do tigers dream of
when they take a little tiger snooze
do they dream about mauling zebras
or halle berry in her catwoman suit

well don’t you worry your little tiger head
we’re gonna get you back to tyson and your little tiger bed
and then we’re gonna find our best friend doug,
and then we’re gonna give him a best friend hug

Doug, Doug, doug, doug, a dougie doug doug

But if he been killed by some crazt meth tweekers,
then we’re shit out of luck.

+100

Thread over.

cozy tiger bed, but close enough

crystal meth tweakers too.

Truthfully, I’d respect that.

I’m convinced he’s put in a request for vacation about 2 months ago, not thinking, and it just happened to land on this week, but figured he’s got plans so he can’t really break them, and said screw the trade deadline

Wish I was GM :/

HeywardFTW! - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

Just woke up

guys, i love Frank Wren but WHAT THE HECK!?!?!?!?

LUDWICK TO THE PADRES!?!?!?!?

If we get no one today and Ludwick, Bautista and some other names in the OF gett traded im going to be very pissed.

Yea, someone explain to me why the braves couldnt have matched the offer from the pads for ludwick?

Maybe the Braves don’t value Ludwick like the Padres do.

the thing is

We could have. We can match and beat the deals for almost any team out there and I have a feeling Frank Wren is more of a rebuilding mindset than win now and doesnt realize that we can trade a few guys and still rebuild.

I seriously doubt that there are things that we realize about our team that Frank Wren does not.

agreed. we’re flipping pennies against a wall, he’s playing 3-D chess.

If he's actually playing 3-D chess

Seems a waste of time since the deadline is approaching.

however

I also think FW may be being a little too stingy with the prospects.

Better too stingy

Than too free an loose. I certainly don’t want to give away Vizcaino, Teheran, Delgado, Freeman, or Minor away on the cheap. Any of those guy needs to bring a solid return.

On the cheap, no...

but I’d damn sure be willing to send a package of a major league starter plus prospects for a significant young OF bat.

Who exactly like that is available?

The closest I can think of to someone actually rumored to be traded is Matt Kemp. Now it seems like he was never really available.

only name out there that fits that description is BJ Upton

and he’s underperforming and seems to have all sorts of baggage surrounding him

Nick Markakis

I can't find anything on MBLTR suggesting he's available

And considering that Baltimore gave him a big long-term deal last offseason, I don’t think they’re quite ready to part ways.

I posted the link a couple of days ago

MacPhail came out and said that “no player is untouchable” when asked about possible trades.

I posted the link a couple of days ago

MacPhail came out and said that “no player is untouchable” when asked about possible trades.

which is why we go for the other upton, of course!

You mean being openly shopped?

Probably no one. If by available you mean would another GM possibly pull a trigger if we offered Hanson/Jurrjens/Medlen + Delgado/Minor/Vizcaino + a couple other lesser prospects? A lot more.

So, you're just speculating

You think there’s probably a lot of great young players who fit our needs who are available at the right price, but you can’t name any actual examples.

Really?

cause every name possible is floated in a trade deadline?

No, I’m not Frank Wren and aware of what’s going on. But yes, trades happen that were unexpected. I never said what you put there, but I do believe very few players are truly untouchable. And if we were willing to include some of our prized young pitching you’d probably see a lot more willing to deal than if we aren’t.

thats the thing

thats upsetting me. Seeing players that werent being openly shopped that fit our needs getting traded. Like Ludwick.

thank you drum...

at least you get the point, Bronn is just being difficult.

i dont either

but i also would pay up for a quality player like a Markakis. I dont think Wren has gotten that bold yet but we will see.

Or for Berkman

I think it is becoming pretty apparent

we are standing pat..

and its pissing me off

I have ultimate faith in this team however since May when McLouth was doing nothing we knew we needed a CF. With the team willing to my Heyward to CF i figured we would make a move for a RF.

I would not be surprised if we did nothing today.

Especially if what the sellers like the Natinals and Jays are asking for. I could see us making a trade in a couple of weeks if Glaus is still struggling and we need another bat. I wouldn’t be shocked at all if we get LaRoche from AZ in late August

trade deadline?

i guess in ur league that doesnt apply

MacsGlasses - July 31, 2010 reply

waiver deadline is at the end of august

deals can still be made, they just have to go through waivers first. Guys on MLB Network earlier this week said they expect a decent amount of deals in August because teams don’t have the money to take on payroll by blocking a waiver trade

Trades happen after the deadline all the time.

Rios, Alex – exhibit A

Rios was not a trade

Blue Jays just gave him up

i doubt we take on a contract like that.

I would love for someone to scoop up Derek Lowe though

this

yeah

I doubt LaRoche clears waivers in August

I doubt

LaRoche is even still with the Diamondbacks by the end of the day

It's certainly possible he's dealt

I just haven’t heard his name come up yet.

Its almost a no brainer

Nats are being stupid about Dunn so im sure if teams see that they cant work out a deal they will go with the next best option. Im surprised he isnt gone already

I could see the Raysand White Sox going after LaRoche for sure

but after those 2 teams, there really isn’t anyone out there still in a race with a need for a 1st baseman

*rays and

giants maybe?

Angels could feel bold.

Read somewhere that the Giants like having Aubrey Huff in their lineup

as weird as that sounds….

Lineup:

Infante
Heyward
Chipper
Mac
Glaus
Hinske
Gonzalez
Melky
Jurrjens

I like it.

EFFFF

so Prado im guessing is really hurting

It’s the day after, plus day game after night, even if he was fine, im sure stiffness would still force Bobby to sit him, so I’m not going to jump to any conclusion just yet

did they

give any injury update?

no being quiet

I m guessing if he was healthy they would have came out already

7-9 is a blackhole

but I guess it is on most teams

I wouldn’t call Melky a black hole, exactly.

I guess

if he can keep hitting those bloop doubles, we have to look on the positive right

see above, I already posted it

Sorry, i couldn’t find it in the 509 comments above.

I'll forgive you

but just this once

lazy.

come on Wren

just trade for Adam again

Should never have gotten rid of him in the first place. Great player, great in the clubhouse. I don’t understand this organization

Which is why you’re not the GM.

NEWS!

per David O’Brien: Prado has ‘’stable avulsion fracture’’ of right pinky, no DL decisioon yet. Might be only 7-10 days

ugh

thankfully we have Infante, but 7-10 days without Prado could be difficult

PRADO UPDATE

Prado has “stable avulsion fracture” of right pinky. No DL decision yet. Out for at most likely 7-10 days

A week to 10 days?

We have NY and the Giants this week. Fuck.

We can stick an All Star there...

DL him and get him healthy. September is more important than a week

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybXrrTX3LuI

We'll survive.

I know we will survive

however its just not what we need in a play off race. Thats all.

At most means it could be less then a week right?

Erin6 - July 31, 2010 reply

I guess the news could have been worse

but for Prado to not be in the lineup (he is such a gamer), you know it must be relatively serious

LEastCoastBears - July 31, 2010 reply

They are playing Sarah McLachlan at Minute Maid park?

lolollol

I was about to ask the same thing.

and the Yankees lineup is disgusting

Crazy what $350MM can do for your lineup.

Hahaha

L Gardner
R Jeter
L Cano
R ARod
S Tex
S Berkman
S Posada
S Swisher
L Granderson

Is that the AL’s starting all-star roster?

8th spot Swisher!? I wish we had Swisher in the 5th or even 4th spot

who would you hit him over?

and with Cervelli, Nick Johnson, Marcus Thames, Austin Kearns, etc on the bench, Girardi can tinker

Bat him second and move Jeter down.

i dunno about that

I figured the Yankees would go

Jeter
Cano
Tex
A-Rod
Swisher
Posada
Berkman
Granderson
Gardner

no, I’m saying that the Yankees are so stacked that they have Swisher batting 8th who in other teams can bat 4th.

and he's been hitting like crazy this year

wait

Tex is hitting 5th?

no, tex hits 3rd

that’s why he leads the AL in runs scored

whatever...

basically it’s a loaded lineup top to bottom

Am I the only one weirded out by Richard Justice talking with Sarah McLaughlan’s “Angel” in the background? It’s like a charity commercial about baseball players.

“Only 70,000 a day will feed Alex Rodriguez…….”

see one spot above

you are not alone

Someone tell me

who Nick Greenwood and Corey Kluber are?

apparently thats all it took to get Ludwick

Frank Wren is......

Sleeping

Rosterbating

It was a there team deal

to send out Ludwick, the Cardinals needed Westbrook and Greenwood.

im saying

if we had been that third team.

how much of an improvement would Ludwick be over Matty D?

Fatvirus - July 31, 2010 reply

we should

just trade for Ryan Langerhans

YES!!!!!!!!!!!

He’s the missing peice

Dont joke

Ryan Langerhans 0.4 WAR
Melky Cabrera 0.5 WAR

Per DOB twitter

“Prado has ‘’stable avulsion fracture’’ of right pinky, no DL decisioon yet. Might be only 7-10 days "

stable avulsion fracture? any doctors in the house?

CharlotteChop - July 31, 2010 reply

avulsion fracture is what the injury Kobe had this season, is at the tip of the finger.

what was the Lebron Injury

Elbow Phantom South Beach Bursitis

that was Chris Bosh's injury

yeah something like that.

Nice

HeywardFTW! - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

seemed to work out well for Kobe in the end

yeah, but...

because he is Kobe, he was playing with a lot of swelling and he said that his finger was just ugly as hell, and now because of not having surgery, possibly he can’t repair it.

http://orthopedics.about.com/od/brokenbones/a/avulsion.htm

O Google is your friend
O Google is your friend
Hi ho a merry yo
O Google is your friend

I googled it. The first three items were Martin Prado related. But apparently a stable fracture shouldnt be too harmful cause the bone’s still in more or less a good position.

Wikipedia:
“An avulsion fracture is a bone fracture which occurs when a fragment of bone tears away from the main mass of bone as a result of physical trauma.”

Ryan Church now a Diamondback.

I don't understand that trade at all

It’s the Pirates.

for either team

We traded Mitch Jones for cash.

been our best deal

all year..

No joke

Anyone know how much?

It's all gone now

Wren had a good time at the Pink Pony last night… that’s why nothing is happening on our end today

haha

Are you from Huntsville?

nope

Athens GA

same here...

born and raised

Frank Wren be pimpin. Literally.

I have a question which I still don't understand... why is everyone ok with losing JJ?

He is on current form and career performances our second best pitcher.

SuperHeyward - July 31, 2010 reply

Because his value is so high, but he's not even our 2nd best pitcher.

You could make an argument that he is...

advanced stats aside, he’s been damn good since day 1, and our best pitcher over the last 3 years.

Yea.

Hudson and Hanson are our top 2 pitchers IMO, though.

Hanson sure ain't pitched like it

JJ is by far our 2nd best pitcher. Big Red is not doing good this year and is our 3rd best pitcher. meds might be our 4th and Lowe the 5th best

We're not...

but if you want to get a big time bat like say a McCutch or Braun, it’ll take someone like Hanson or Jurrjens to make it happen.

True and Hanson assuming he works the kinks out has the better future... I just like our pitchers too much minus Lowe...

SuperHeyward - July 31, 2010 reply

Would you rather

A) Stand pat and keep our talented arms

B) Trade for a power bat like Bautista but have to give up a lot of the farm to get him

C) Get a lower tier guy like Willigham

I don't consider Willingham "lower tier" to Bautista

I think

Willingham is better fit for us

everything I'm hearing says that

the Nats are asking for almost as much as the Jays are for Bautista

Damn, where are you hearing this?

Stand pat. No one out there puts Atlanta over the top.

I'd rather not touch Jose Bautista with a ten foot pole.

Buster said last night on BBTN that with the adjustments Bautista has made at the plate, he doesn’t see this as a fluke year for him

Ah yes, Buster Olney, the "Expert"

Actually....it was Buster Posey

He fills in on BBTN on the side, since he can apparently he is all that is baseball

Show us on the doll where the bad man touched you…………

His HRs are more legit than those of Alex Gonzalez

however, his price and his hitting style is probably not a good fit for the Braves

I for one hopes the Braves to just stand pat

LEastCoastBears - July 31, 2010 reply

who would want

an overachieving old playing over his head type of player from the blue jays?

yea we

already got one

no way

really?

already

been screwed once

thats the problem

people think we would have to give up the farm.

If we made a deal for an impact bat and it costed Delgado, Minor, Bethancourt and someone lower ike Robinson Lopez then we didnt give up the farm.

id do that for braun or mccutchen

as would i

THIS........IS..........BORING!

Aparrently the Dodgers are listening to deals for Manny.

White Sox, Rays, and a mystery team are asking. Any chance it could be us?

JayF - July 31, 2010 reply

doubt

we have the payroll to add him

plus

our OF defense is bad enough

Plus

his personality is not conducive to our team. Why would we trade Esco for attitude problems, and then turn around and trade for Manny?

meh…. do not want.

Manny for KK and Dunn

Right....like Bobby Cox would put up with that douchebag.

For a couple months?...

and it’s not like we haven’t had nuts before—Rocker, Sheffield, Drew, etc, etc, etc

I don’t want that dooshnozzle wearing a Braves jersey.

This

Wut if we got Fielder ha ha. Every1 hates him here

nowhere

to put him, dont think he can play the OF

Even though he is a great athlete

id become a pirates fan

they never disappoint

at this point

he is way better then Glaus

People say he's a great athlete

and I think its always implied that they are really saying “He’s a great athlete for a guy that weighs 300 pounds.”

JayF - July 31, 2010 reply

it

was sarcasm

sorry

people still say that though.

JayF - July 31, 2010 reply

Prince Fielder looks like Big Baby Davis.

Prince is such a whiner

Please FW don’t bring him on board.

Prince is sad at the name-calling.

Haha

The Nats

apparently brought up Garza in a deal for Dunn.

wow the Nats are insane

I guess they should be they got Ramos for Capps

No way Tampa makes that deal.

I’d love to get fielder

HeywardFTW! - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

Screw that

Give up probably 2 or 3 of our best prospects for a rental. No thanks

+1000

And MLBN is talking about the Brewers needing pitching...

We got it, get me Braun damn it! Jurrjens, Hanson, or Medlen, plus ’spects!

No way they trade Braun

We dont have a position player besides Heyward they would be interested in

They got position players...

need pitchers. They don’t have a shortage of good bat, no glove guys that could fill in LF.

right

we can give them Cody Johnson. He fits their mold of all bat no glove

Pretty sure

They would want a major league bat to replace Braun and a top tier pitching prospect

Probably in their eyes it would take

Heyward + Hanson/Medlen + prospects

The reason so expensive you ask?

Braun is signed long term on the cheap

I disagree on the need for a bat...

as said above, they have plenty, and lack pitching. I’m sure they’d prefer a young, front line starter to a bat with McGehee, Fielder, Weeks, Gamel, Lawrie, etc around.

You think they'd trade their best hitter

And still have plenty of hitting?

Are you reading impaired, that's exactly what I said...

Lorenzo Cain, Prince Fielder, Corey Hart, Casey McGehee, Rickie Weeks, Brett Lawrie, Mat Gamel, hitting isn’t their problem.

I really can't agree

I mean, Braun is locked up long term. Hart and Fielder are free agents after next season. McGeehee is solid, but he’s not like some great hitter. Mat Gamel hasn’t really shown anything, yet, but he might good in a couple of years (but probably not next year, for their bubble with Prince Fielder and Corey Hart). Lorenzo Cain isn’t that great. He was like, their 8th best prospect going into this year. He’s an average corner outfield bat.

I don’t think Braun is leaving town at all, not this year or next.

Neither do I, but if they want to add elite pitching,...

I don’t see Hart or Fielder bringing that back. They’ve got capable bats, and no arms. Like us with a ton of arms but not many bats.

They'd be better off moving Hart or Fielder with prospects.

But no one is paying what they want for Hart...

so that’s a no go, and Fielder doesn’t seem all that desired either. That’s like saying we’d be better off moving Lowe than Javy Vazquez. Well no shit sherlock, but nobody is biting.

absolutely not

oh wait

just saw the OR

If they wont give up Hart, no way they give up braun or Fielder

If they got back good pitching, they'd give Hart...

just no one was paying that price. So up the price a bit, and demand Braun. Doubtful, but ya try.

They’re not giving up Braun for the last time

HOLY CRAP

you can put a silencer on a shotgun

Huh?

watching

No Country for Old Men on Peactree TV

It's better without being edited

I hate R movies on regular TV

ha

yea i remember watching it while doing a FF draft no wonder i cant remember some thing that happened

American Gangster sucks on TNT.

There is a long list of movies that suck on regular TV

you're watching no country for old men as well i see

the cow - July 31, 2010 reply

Hey!

Does anyone know what the Brewers would want for Braun?!?!

alot

More than we are willing to give.

Heyward

This just in: Jair Jurrjens...

…will be batting 9th in today’s lineup.

That is all.

Sincerely,

Frank Wren

ha

icwutudidthar

nice

What about Cody Ross?

Cody Ross> Melky

They want to much for him.

soo

DOB says Prado out at the minimum a week

FUCK!!!

Actually

thats good news

I suppose

It could have been much worse

Berkman deal done

Now the Yanks are the AL all-star team

Lance Berkman

is awesome, glad he is not in the NL against us

Wasn't having such a good year.

had a rough April

but is raking since, and still carries a .375 OBP

Amen

Yeah, but we’ll face him in October!

Way to copy what MLBTV network said

What's wrong with that?

Some peeps don’t have MLBN.

I’m talking about that the Yanks are the AL all star team, jus kiddin bro

right

cuz berkman is still an all-star caliber player

The Astros got eye raped on these deals. That, for Berkman? For real? If they sent money too, Ed Wade is now officially the worst GM in baseball.

Berkman and Oswalt

put him in a bad situation, they vetoed all trades

And you know this how?

I doubt Berkman said yankees or nothing, and Oswalt wanted St Louis, not Phily

pretty sure

Berkman vetoed CHW as well

This

Berkman is washed up

But the Astros practically gave him away. I would like him for the deal they gave him away for.

Alright....I'm getting mad.

I wish MLBTR would at least tell me that the Braves aren’t doing anything. That way I can enjoy my Saturday.

Would it help if I told you that?

Because the Braves aren’t doing anything.

Mitch Jones traded for cash.

P.S. Cue this pic:

:)

who!??!?!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitch_Jones

I don’t know about the rest of you, but i’m getting awfully sick of the Capital One commercials.

Has anyone seen SALT yet?

yea

i liked it

I put it on my eggs all the time.

i prefer catsup.

Sophisticated people pronounce it CAT-SOP.

…Not if they want me to pass it to them…

I think it's safe to say........

the Braves aren’t going to make a deal…….big……..risk………

Brett Wallace

called up

go on.

Who is the other team for Manny dammit!!!!!!!

angels

Do they not realize their season is done?

they dont

Ok good, glad its not the Braves

This + a million

Tampa Bay

showing some interest in Manny also.

Could be worse

We could be Cub’s fans…..lets all be thankful for what we have

Truth

True

But sometimes its better to be really bad…

That way you can move on

Better to be a Cubs fan than a Royals or Pirates fan.

id like to be a pirates fan

must be fun getting prospects, then developing them and making them amazing for 2 years, then trading them to do it all over again

Meanwhile never reaching respectability.

Respectfully disagree

At least Royals and Pirates fans KNOW they are going to suck every year. Cubs fans think they’re winning it all and that the next year is “Their year”

I couldn’t live with that emotional beating year after year

But Cubs fans actually can hope that they’ll be good. Royals and Pirates fans are merely wasting their emotional effort even rooting for teams that just never come close to having a shot.

Good point

But I live in eastern Iowa, and every single person is a Cubs fan. April is horrible because they are annoying as shit. But it’s nice when July rolls around, much quieter

Could be worse. Could live in baltimore.

…sigh.

I think you’ve got us there.

Sadly. :(

This

Can KJ play SS?

HeywardFTW! - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

KJ

can play anywhere

Has

anyone seen that new movie Inception yet? I was thinking of going to see it and was wondering what you guys think of it. I’m hearing a lot of good things about it. Also I don’t think the Braves are trading for anyone. If we do trade I would be shocked.

AlabamaTitans2009 - July 31, 2010 reply

ive been told by like 10 ppl that its the greatest movie ever made, havent heard 1 bad thing about it

Saw it. It sucked.

Alabama, This response was not from a human. The movie is awesome. See it twice.

Sorry, I don’t like sci-fi all that much.

I also despise Leonardo DiCaprio.

BUT HES SEXY FOR A GUY! Right?

He was legit in Shutter Island, though. Can’t fault him there.

Used to despise him too.

Dude can act though and most of his newer films are good.

Catch Me if You Can

Is one of my favorites

+1

Helps that Tom Hanks is in it though. That man is gold.

He is the best part of that one

He's done good movies for me...

Departed, Shutter Island was all right, Catch Me if You Can I loved, Inception is good, he’s had his share.

Disagree.

I saw it twice. It was awesome both times. Very unique film/concept. Worth a view at some point. At least it isn’t in 3D.

It’s great

HeywardFTW! - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

Worth the money

That movie is a 10/10.

Yeah,

most of my friends who have seen it say they are going to see it a second time so it must be pretty good. lol

AlabamaTitans2009 - July 31, 2010 reply

Seems to me that the sellers seem to be asking for more and more each year. Throw in salary constraints, and It wouldn’t surprise me to see the non-waiver deadline become irrelevant.

Except for the Astros :)

Haha

True. :D

This just in:

Chipper and Mac have decided to skip batting practice today. Figuring their BP will take place against Arroyo this afternoon

Chipper vs. Arroyo – 11 for 25 (.440) 3 HR’s
Mac vs. Arroyo – 4 for 12 (.333) 2 HR’s

Question

Is Mike Minor untouchable? I say yes and will probably get roasted. He is dominating AAA and the Braves desperately need a lefty starter. He is probably the Braves future #3

pretty sure he's not untouchable

it’d take a lot to get him, but hes viewed as our #4 pitching prospect behind teheran, vizcaino, and delgado

If we make a big deal

he will be the centerpiece

No I agree

I’m not saying we should never move him, but I see him as the quickest way to kick Derek Lowe out of the rotation. Thus, I like him…alot

Depends on the return, really.

If the Dodgers called and said “Matt Kemp for Mike Minor straight up”, would you make that deal?

yup

Absolutely, where do I sign

Before they finished the sentence.

Obviously, that scenario would NEVER play out, but it illustrates my point. No one is TRULY untouchable save the guy we seem to stick in RF a lot.

Heck yeah!

Plus he’s dating this:

How does he still play baseball?

Can’t bone 24/7.

Viagra would disagree

Wonder who makes more. Probably Ri

Just did a quick search. Ri made $15 million in ’08. Kemp signed a 2-yr $10.95 million contract in January.

Music makes MUCH more

That pic belongs in a calendar of similarly dressed females.

Or in a magazine.

I'd hit that...

CB’d

I've always had the outlook

That nobody is untouchable. He certainly is a prized possession though.

Ted Lilly going to the Dodgers.

Really?

It's finally being finalized

after So much talk.

with

Ryan theriot?

Fatvirus - July 31, 2010 reply

I love our prospects. Tweet from Myke Jones

i hate the yankees so much, like why do u need lance berkman?

I heard hes gonna bat 8th. Thats disgusting.

Call him up Prado is hurt

Because they are the Yankees

Duh.

Why do the Braves always have

not only good players but good people in their organization

Somebody tell Jones that the Yankees are committed to developing their talent from within………..okay, so I couldn’t type that with a straight face.

Astros were giving him away

so that said they would take him:)

I really hope we dont get rid of myke. Sure he is making errors a ton but I think he can be an Orlando Hudson type guy w/ more power but less defense. He is athletic, can hit, has range, has speed

hahaha that rules

MBL1 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

Esco popped up with the bases loaded and 1 out...

That’s about right.

#regressiontothemean

Posting from IHOP. I love Wi-Fi. Just my luck, I’m going to the August 6th game and Prado won’t be playing! ugh! I hate life

MBL1 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

New slogan: “Come for the pancakes, stay for the interwebz.”

SELL SELL SELL!!!!

JK.

You are always eating?

If I ate as much food as you do, I would be obese:)

I’m young. I can eat whatever I want and nothing happens, lol.

MBL1 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

Must be nice:)

Well my food isn’t here yet, and i reallywant my Bacon so I’m about to scream

MBL1 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

That won't last long

so....

i doubt we will be making a move today =\

This just in:

UHHH DUH!!!

Bronson Arroyo has a 4.21 ERA....wait, what?

I thought he wasnt that good

whooooo

jason heyward jokes

How dare you Harold!!! No jokes about Heyward

at work, no MLBN

quote, please.

Can’t remember it now but thought it was something like if no one is un touchable, then Heyward is available

Yes, Heyward is available, for a massive price no one can pay

WOW

Anyone watching SC top 10 plays of July.

Escobar made a SICK scoop toss behind the back at #8

who?

I've heard he's pretty good

Maybe we should trade for him.

He seems like a clubhouse guy, im down.

Looks like he has fun out there too

Always whistling.

Maybe we could trade them

an over-achieving veteran?

The ultimate frisby catch

@ #2 was the most amazing play i’ve seen in a while

DIRTY.

You see it on youtube? It’s even more impressive in slow-mo.

don’t know who that is

MBL1 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

Harold has been my favorite guy and was pissed when he got axed by ESPN but to even mention Heyward makes me hate him. Harold however has always loved the Braves however

Really? I could never stand him.

why does mentioning him make u hate him?

he joked that he would want him on his team but that he was untouchable

This

Pizza is

delicious

Maybe we should trade for THAT.

And MBL1's pancakes

Pizza first. Then pancakes. You NEVER go pizza to pancake.

You never go full retard.

lmao. was just thinking that exact line1

The first half of that movie was great

The last half was really…not. After Tom Cruise cussed out the terrorists, it ran out of funny.

Nothing better than Les.

bacon

pretty good too

MBL1 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

Poor Manny has no 10/5 veto rights either. So if he gets dealt, he’s got no say.

2 hours and Counting

This sucks

Honestly braves won’t make a deal. I have watched this damn MLB network for 2 hours and counting and they haven’t mentioned the word Braves once

I've watched their Trade Deadline Special for two days

and the Braves have only been mentioned in the Cody Ross talks.

FW is working hard in a bunker at a non-disclosed location AND under a cone of silence.

I can't hear you! What?

Indeed

HeywardFTW! - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

Joke just like he joked about Heyward

Is the dead line over at the same time the game starts today?

/nods

Maybe its a sign that the braves do somethin

So I guess we are sellers

We traded our prospect Mitch Jones to the Pirates for cash! It better be like a 10 million dollars! WHERE ELSE WILL WE GET POWAH!!!

Still

Our best trade of the year..

Sad No Trade Post

Cuts the sting

Point and laugh at the fail.

I see no fail. I AM MAN.

Broken image = fail

I see eva. You dont?

I do not.

I pray for you. :)

You guys know what to do...

the best move we could make:

cloning jason heyward

The BEST move, to me, would be selling Nate McLouth to Ringling Bros.

Mike Rizzo

Is digging himself a grave in this league. Wait until the Nats become a good team and need to make a move for a big piece…..teams are going to want his farm

so i know it's another LH bat but

why not KJ for the OF? he’s actually hit LHP pretty well this season. could also fill in at 2b for this time prado is out

Look at his Home/Road splits.

yikes

No way FW

trades for KJ

It would be a pride thing to begin with

Surely the relievers will start being dealt...

As I guess, we probably won’t add anyone. Still a ton of guys we could trade for to help the ’pen out.

you mean like...

Kimbrel, Resop, Marek, EOF when he’s healthy, Ortegano, Medlen in the post season. Yeah, adding a bullpen arm is pointless imo.

I would agree. Why deal for a bullpen arm when there’s not guarantee Bobby would even use him?

You can never have too many. I’m not saying go give up a top prospect for Matt Capps or anything…just another 6th/7th inning option.

Aka Resop,

or Kimbrel, or, well shit you can read above. We got those options. Hell dust of Kenny K and actually use his ass more than once a month. He showed last year he can be at least as effective as Chavez in the pen.

Yeah

As long as we have guys like Kimbrel in AAA, we really don’t need bullpen help.

And Resop has to be up when his rehab ends,...

and there’s Proctor, among the others listed above. No need for bullpen help.

Rays talking to Os about Luke Scott

Where are the Braves!?!??! Hanging out by the pool?

As was stated earlier: Frank Wren is still recovering from the 30 pack he knocked out pregaming last night.

haha

yeah

Wren is rosterbating. Braves players…….. not really sure

I think some folks forget whose tutelage Frank Wren received. His mentor was not one to wheel and deal publicly.

true

but if JS was still around you would almost EXPECT a move. here i don’t really get that feeling

Absolutely. And it would usually be one you never saw.

Like

trading good young players for over achieving old ones

Or like an in-his-prime Fred McGriff.

BRING BACK THE CRIME DOG!!!

call the fire department first

MBL1 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

yeah

but FW did not make that trade JS did

I know this. Schuerholz would be the mentor my original post referenced.

I somehow don’t trust your feelings on this subject.

Woody Harrelson

NO GOD WHY

Who’d we give up for him?

Hanson and Heyward

and the Raw Dog

Jacoby Ellsbury.

Just thought of an idea. Our power hitter is Brooks Conrad!!!!

All he does is hit slams.

Better hope we dont play

the Dodgers if we make the playoffs

Kershaw and Lilly would carve us up

Dodgers won’t be making the playoffs. Harold is right. Lilly makes them incrementally better. And that’s it.

Yes

But so do Theriot and Podsednik. I think they’re a playoff team.

I’ll bet you 5 million Stanley nickels they don’t.

What is that in Schrute bucks?

Hmmmm…….I forget the conversion rate.

Podsednik

doesn’t make anyone better. Ever.

I’d like to play the Reds in the postseason

MBL1 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

Looks like Venters won his suspension appeal.

FeartheChop - July 31, 2010 reply

Seriously?

:)

Yep

Article on ESPN.

FeartheChop - July 31, 2010 reply

Also heard that.

Insert

Jones for Cash

I wish the Astros would have given us Berkman

instead of giving him to the Yanks. They practically gave him away.

yeah

Guess either he had no interest of coming here, or FW did not even ask

Our LF defense is suspect enough as it is.

But his bat for practically nothing

I would jump on that deal.

He can’t hit right handed anymore. He’s strictly a platoon guy. We don’t need a third member of that platoon.

No thanks on Berkman.

How do you...

Break a knuckle? Isn’t that just a joint?

NEWS!!!

#Braves in talks with #Rangers for 1B slugger Mark Teixera. Possible Braves send multi-top prospects to TX. Braves looking to acquire big bat

Don't do it Schuerholz!!!

Not cool

FeartheChop - July 31, 2010 reply

lol

There’s no way that deal could ever bite us in the ass!!!

I don't think that it did

I mean, who exactly do we wish we still had from that deal? Just Andrus, and he’s not exactly tearing it up at the plate this year.

Feliz closing games out would be nice to have

Do we really need him, though?

our bullpen has been excellent this year.

yes, but Wags won't be here next year

Kimbrel may be fine if he can get a better command of the zone, but having Feliz in our pen instead of Chavez or KK would be an improvement

Well

A lot of people would be an improvement over Chavez-we’ve got Kimbrel, Marek, and Gearrin in Gwinnett who probably all could do better.

Your point?

then stick him in AAA and see if he can be a starter, or would you really turn down that arm in the pen? He’d have made Saito or Wags unneeded, so save that money and reinvest it elsewhere (like LF).

I'd take Andrus, Feliz, even Harrison or Salty as reserves...

or used in other deals.

I'm evaluating that deal after the fact

If we just traded them again later, we almost certainly would have never gotten a player as good as Teixeira. I’d say we maximized their trade value because, looking at the deal retroactively, Salty never had a place here (and right now wouldn’t have a roster spot), neither would Harrison. Feliz is a closer, and it’s fairly easy to replace that value in a variety of ways. Andrus is the one guy we’ll miss, long term, and three years later, we’re still not at the point where we’re really missing him.

Harrison and Salty soon lost all trade value, following this time period, so we really didn’t lose a great deal of value. The bad deal was trading Tex for Kotchman the following year.

And Tex wasn't helpful to us...

so they might not have been “as good”, but certainly could have been more helpful.

While closers can be found, it’s nice to have one so you don’t have to look, especially one at the minimum, so that point is bullshit spin. And Harrison did not lose all trade value, he had some very good starts and could have become much better. You’re justifying and not being truthful. Take a way that deal, and a lot changes, so it’s pointless to debate now.

I just don't think people look fairly on that deal

just because we missed the playoffs. We got a great return for the trade, and people were clamoring for a move. We were in contention, we vastly improvement the biggest hole on the team, and we came up short in the running. That trade which has been the whipping boy of commenters around here really wasn’t that bad. None of those guys would be a key piece on this team, and most of them wouldn’t be rostered, so the effect it had on the franchise really isn’t that significant. It certainly didn’t set us back as much as people thought it would, at the time.

None of those guys would be a key piece on this team, and most of them wouldn’t be rostered, so the effect it had on the franchise really isn’t that significant.

Is bullshit spin worthy of Washington. But whatever.

You call it bullshit

And have no other counter-argument. Seriously, which guy from that deal would be a significant roster improvement?

Andrus over Gonzalez is one...

Feliz over Saito for two.

And if Harrison is around and coming up, maybe we don’t splurge for KK or Lowe and just rock it with Vazquez. Saving even more money. But as said above, this discussion is masturbatory anyway. get your last word if you must, but my point is and always has been, we didn’t have the pitching to make a World Series, with or without Tex. So save the kids and reload later.

I'd love it if you would actually attempt to make a case for those first two

Saito has a lower FIP than Feliz. In fact, the Braves have used 5 relievers with a lower FIP than Feliz this year (including Kimbrel, but SSS). As for Elvis Andrus…sure he made the all-star team, but he did so mostly because of defensive reputation. Alex Gonzalez is as good defensively as Andrus, according to the metrics, and Andrus is a below average hitter-WELL below average. In years to come, Andrus will be a better hitter, true, but he’s not a better hitter now than Yunel Escobar is. Even if I were willing to concede that Andrus is an upgrade at the SS position, if so, it’s a very very minor upgrade, and he certainly wouldn’t qualify as a key piece for this team.

You’re building a complete straw man argument with Harrison. He’s got a career 5.03 FIP. I doubt, going into 2009, FW would have felt happy enough having him around to avoiding giving Derek Lowe that big deal. He wouldn’t be in our current rotation, and with guys like Minor, Teheran, and Delgado pushing their way up the minors, he wouldn’t have a future spot with the Braves either.

I don't consider FIP an absolute judge of pitching...

and both are cheaper. You are spinning an argument well, but you are being delusional if you are ignoring the value those players would have provided.

Andrus is cheaper, better speed on the base paths, better obp than Gonzalez, would have been on a slower development path here and made an Escobar trade not require a SS in return.

Feliz, in spite of pitching in the AL, has a better ERA+, lower WHIP, lower walk per 9 and lower hit per 9, is cheaper and would be more certain replacement for Wagner than anything else we got currently. Plus with the savings of those two over current options (not to mention the likely lack of KK or Lowe’s salary with Harrison slotted as a starter last year), we would have money to address other needs. But the trade was so long ago, neither one of us can say with any certain what the opportunity cost was of keeping those players instead of acquiring Tex.

But spin however you want if it makes you feel better.

the Angels hosed us big time

haha

where is the pelican

FLASHBACK. Ahhhhhhhhhhh Tex. We hardly knew ye.

but we have Scott Thorman

Great deal! there’s no way this can come back and bite us!

MBL1 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

One of the shitty things about that deal was...

…that Tex actually played really well for us. The rest of the team just started sucking ass.

Renteria spraining his ankle in the 2nd game with Tex pretty much killed us. Esco was alright, but Edgar was a baller for us.

No, having Chuck James and a pack of crap as the 3-4-5 killed us, not Renteria getting hurt...

unless Edgar could pitch, Tex wasn’t the difference.

We had no 3-4-5 starters and a piece meal bullpen

whether Tex played well was pointless. And the next year, we had Gregor Blanco leading off so wasted again.

We were only down 3.5 games at that point

And even after that, we still had good results from Chuck James. And you’re really underrating how well the bullpen performed that year.

I've looked at it, it did ok, but was still piecemeal...

Wickman crapped out and Soriano stepped up. Either way, we did not have the pitching to do the trick. Chuck James, really? That’s your 3 starter in the playoffs? Maybe as a 4 or 5, but if he’s your 3, then you’re fighting an uphill battle you won’t win.

No point in keeping this up, let’s just agree to disagree and move on.

It only takes two good starters in the playoffs.

And besides, reaching it is the ultimate goal, because almost anything can happen in shorter series.

According to Kevin Goldstein

we have absolutely no wiggle room financially. Which makes no sense to me considering we opened about 7-8 mil below last years pay roll and have had an increase in attendance.

If thats true then we really are screwed.

AND we got so much cash for Jones.

haven't you heard?

we’re in a recession

It seems to me

that we have been quietly slashing payroll every year

this.

Liberty Media<Ted Turner

I’d rather have Liberty Media than Time Warner. Definitely rather have Liberty Media than an owner going through a divorce.

Weldon - July 31, 2010 reply

this

Arthur Blanks

Wish he had been allowed to buy them when Liberty Media got them. We would have all the money we needed to get top notch players.

this

wish Arthur Blank owned every team in Atlanta

This

and he would love it also. He has tried, it just never works out:(

someone needs to buy the Hawks and Thrashers from the Atlanta Spirit

that’s one of the worst ownership groups in all of sports

but they signed

Joe Johnson for 120 million

and as a result, the Thrashers will be at the salary floor next year

They’ll never spend more than 120 mil on salaries between the 2 teams. They’ll refuse to pay the luxury tax in basketball, and will never go over the midpoint of the salary cap in hockey so they can keep getting full revenue sharing checks each month… What a joke

And on top of that...

minimum guys like Jason Collins and Josh Powell, good deal.

Hey, at least we're not the Cubs

they add money and get worse every year.

yeah

we have been removing money and getting worse

getting worse?

aren’t we in 1st place?

yeah I think so

Just wait till next year when Chipper’s money comes off the books and we add no one

awesome attitude

We’ve gone down in $$ every year since 2006 and we’re the best team since then…

I'm confused...

Didn’t the Phillies play in a couple WS since then?

How are we the best?

I think he means

This team is the best Braves’ team since.

ahhh

it's only going to go down next year

Replace Wagner and Glaus with guys making the minimum… If Chipper retires, it will be as low as it’s been in a long time

It's not even quiet

It’s blatantly obvious, except that Frank Wren says that we’re not cutting salary.

Since I’m bored how bout Chavez last night! How does he get so many wins? I started crying when he was put in with the game on the line and didn’t do terrible.

We should trade hi while his value is SO HIGH!!! :)

i honestly have no clue

how this clown is still in the pen when marek and kimbrel are tearing it up at gwinnett

Chavez is the new Villareal.

former pirate

obviously a WINNAR

MBL1 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

Maybe Wren is on the phone with Rocker's agent

LET’S BRING HIM BACK!!

UGH.

or Bob Wickman.

or Dan Kolb

no way

that will being down Team Chemistry to sub replacement level

Heyward would end his life.

I think

Alex Gonzalez was suppose to increase team chemistry

to the tune of a .500 record

only won 1 series out of 4 w/ him hopefully a win today changes that.

Clearly Gonzalez has caused Glaus to not be able to hit anything and Wagner to blow two saves. I get it.

sleezer1788 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

but

team chemistry would will us to win all of the games

that's totally how team chemistry works

I thought so?

We get it. You hate the trade. The bottom line is that Escobar was not producing for us at all. And he was obviously not well-liked in the clubhouse. Any production Gonzalez gives will be more than we got from Escobar. There is just no point in making crass comments about it over and over.

sleezer1788 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

you wont

make it long on here, if you cant take comments about trades…

I think Dan Kolb still comes up alot around here

Did I say I couldn’t take it? I said you’ve made your point numerous times and it is pointless to keep bringing it up.

sleezer1788 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

Did

you mention this to everyone when they talked about the Tex Trade? For the 1000th time

Nope. Sure didn’t.

sleezer1788 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

that seems

a bit mean to me then doesnt it =/

Where is the justice!!!!

I don’t believe I ever implied that I thought every trade we ever made was the right move. I was simply refuting the point you made about team chemistry. Implying Gonzalez is the reason we have only been a .500 team since the break is obviously wrong.

sleezer1788 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

I am joking

Granted I think it is well known that I dislike the Gonzalez trade….

It is obviously not all on him

And that last line proves you have been around here long enough to know what you're talking about...

Kolb comes up as a joke sometimes. “alot” is stretching it bad.

Its

called a joke, If I wanted to be sure I made a point all I wold have to mention is Tex

I guess I forget

the

/SARCASM

my bad

Jokes are supposed to be funny,...

and that wasn’t. Learn better jokes.

I guess

people get too serious about it?

oh my…..

MBL1 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

The one qualm I have is that the other top NL contenders all made deals that improved their clubs. You could say the Gonzalez trade did the same for us, but I just don’t think it was enough. That being said, the available names out there just don’t strike me as the kind of talent that carries a team deep into October.

I’m a bit torn on this. Yes, I’m concerned at the prospects for a pennant, but I’d hate the team to hand away future aces for no real guarantee.

not sure

how any could argue that the Gonzalez trade improved us

More like worse or equal so far

well

those prospects are lookin good. Especially Collins the 5 foot 3 Wonder

MBL1 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

too bad

they cant help us this year

this

When we are all celebrating a Championship in November

we’ll be able to look back on July 30 and know we made the best move of any team in baseball, and it springboarded us to the World Series….

I'm obviously refering to

Mitch Jones for Cash

Johnny Cash?

yep

we got $30,000 plus every johnny cash studio album ever made… solid deal

I like it

better walk-up songs.

How does Chipper not come out to johnny cash?

seriously

crazy train is so 20th century

Just $30,000?

link?

i made that up

Jones for Cash?

WHY

Cant shark week just start?

The Sharks are in the middle of Jason Heyward Week

The Xgames keep trying to hype me up for them

"Live every week like its shark week"

-Tracy Jordan

sexbobomb - July 31, 2010 reply

Oh my god, Braves mentioned on MLBnetwork……… Only to briefly talk about the Sea Bass trade. GOD DAMMIT I THOUGHT THE BRAVES DID SOMETHING

DAMN IT WREN

JUST TRADE FOR DAVID ECKSTEIN THE ULTIMATE GAMER

grit

Maybe we should be sellers

It worked for the Padres

But they weren’t in first place when they were selling

But not for the Pirates

Hmm…

Well nothing ever works for the Pirates.

I wish we could have sold Lowe

and his big ass contract.

the mets will take a big contract in the offseason

if they don’t have to send back any meaningful prospects…. Lowe and KK to the mets for Cash!!!

best trade

ever

it's no Mitch Jones for Cash

but it’s pretty solid

84 minutes to the trade deadline

do you know where your GM is?

Wren is at

Hooters having the Chipper Jones special

a dozen wings and a few holes?

Watching BMX park

He loved that sick no-footed can-can

Wren

is at Chuckie Cheeses’s enjoying the ballpit

and supervising Kris Medlen while he plays

haha

zing

haha

were all freaking out and he’s sleeping in on a saturday

ATLBRVS_19 - July 31, 2010 reply

he is probablly reading the threads

And then makes a call to each team we mention and makes a ridiculous offer…

Goes back to sleep knowing that news will come out that he tried

KK, D Lowe, and MVP

to the Red Sox for Ellsbury and Pedroia… DO IT WREN!

On the phone trying to get some GM to

give us someone good for nothing.

call the Astros then

they’ll even pay the salary for the guy coming our way… although I don’t know they have anything left of value

Do they still have Hunter Pence?

And is he still any good?

he reminds me too much of Francoeur

he swings at everything. Michael Bourn could be serviceable I suppose

this

Pence has been a bit impatient… I am not really sure where his career goes from here

the Mets will probably trade for him shortly

haha man

a lineup with Pence and Francouer would be unbearable

they're also going to sign Andruw Jones in the offseason

all you would have to do is throw sliders that end up in the dirt and you’d have a K every time they came to bat

that

would be the worst hitting outfield ever

FW should have ask for Berkman for nothing.

He would have gotten him.

REASONABLE CHANCE

DOB is reporting that Frank has woken up from his coma, and is now on the phones trying to make a move

Unfortunately, it’s a move into a new apartment in the sky.

#Braves are still working on several trade possibilities, hitters and relievers. Reasonable chance that something will get done by 4 p.m.——DOB twitter

ConradsComrades - July 31, 2010 reply

news!

Jones for cash?

Why not some how get Downs/Frasor and Bautista. Would take a lot but you get the bat and some bull pen help even though we don’t really need it

C’mon fill that outfield void that we have…

CJ10JHEY22 - July 31, 2010 reply

DOB Update

#Braves are still working on several trade possibilities, hitters and relievers. Reasonable chance that something will get done by 4 p.m.

drumzalicious - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

“Reasonable chance” – love that.

MLBN

says NO! I hope FW does pull something off without ESPN or MLBN knowing it :)

as long as we're not dealing with the Red Sox, Yankees, Mets, or Phillies

ESPN won’t have a clue

Unless it’s a deal with the X games or an NFL camp, ESPN won’t have a clue.

hes gonna make a deal for Votto right before the game starts. you knows it

MBL1 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

Someone on Yahoo's trade proposal

Kawakami for Bautista.

Yeah I don’t think that would work.

oh man

thats funny

How come?

/sarcasm

Kawakami and Cash for Bautista

I knew

we were saving cash for something

haha even MLBTR posted

Reasonable chance of a braves deal

lmao

Who is the guy on MLBTR that said the Braves would call up Mclouth to shore up CF?

imo, its a very fine line between chances of the reasonable and unreasonale types.

"reasonable"

being the key word.

NEWZ

BRAVES TRADE……
Nate McLouth….
for Coco Crisp (not really. the A’s gave wren a box of cereal, that’s all mclouth is worth)

MBL1 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

Make it so, Wren. I LOVE Coco(a) Crisp.

I am more

of a Cinnamon Toast Crunch guy

I used to like CTC, but it always got soggy too fast. Nothing worse than soggy CTC, unless it’s soggy Boo Berry. That shit is toxic soggy.

thats true

you have to find the right mlik to CTC ratio, or it goes south fast

Agree. And I’m no breakfast chemist.

Boo Berry is guilt-free candy. Magical stuff.

poormrtoad - July 31, 2010 reply

Would you do a Ellsbury-Diaz swap?

I would

I think TC might riot though

I would.

Not for more than that, though.

definetly

dont think the Red Sox would though

No thanks

NO

Matty D is a lot bigger part of this club than people realize. You know, the chemistry stuff

BravesDawg16 - July 31, 2010 reply

Y;all are morons...

cheaper, better, but wouldn’t want? It’s the Red Sox who pass on that, not us.

+10

I’d take Elsbury for Diaz for sure. Ellsbury can play the best defensive CF out there, steals bases and is a legit lead off hitter. Prado can move to #2 where he can get more RBI’s and Heyward can go down to and get even more RBI’s. If heyward walks, then they might pay the price w/ Sea Bass

And they aye's have it

3-2

Big fat negative!

How great would it be

To have Elvis Andrus at short and Neftali Feliz as our set up man…

Better not bring up the Tex deal

you might get roasted by the…

Dont reference bad trade police!!!!

It would also be nice if Henry Aaron were still in his prime, along with Warren Spahn.

Woulda/coulda/shoulda………let’s focus on 2010, eh?

Just saying

It’s another deal that bit us in the ass…..so before we start getting too excited about trading away our prospects for a big bat, lets look back and realize what we lost.

I vote we not get excited until a trade that really improves the club is announced. We don’t have to review past mistakes to avoid putting the cart before the horse.

Every team has its share of bad trades.

We need a hitter

Some would say a Professional Hitter.

You know what to do Wren.

BRING BACK FUGA!!!

FUGA for KK

get the Dodgers on the phone

MINOR 4 FUGA

I heard

he was available do to Pods being in LA

1 hour to go

ESPN chat dude says he would be surprised if the Braves don’t make 1-2 moves. thinks it will be relief but need OF help.

Meanwhile, Kenshin Kawakami slips further into depression-fueled dementia due to negligence.

He must be so sad

Rolling around in his millions.

I'm willing to bet

He’d rather be pitching.

Yeah probably

I doubt the dude is miserable though. He’s a pretty lucky guy.

"How do you sleep at night?"

“On top of a pile of money, with many beautiful women.”

Man the Yankees

have 4 switch hitters, unreal

Jokes on them

we got the MVP

MVP for Berkman?

thats pretty much what they gave up to Houston

that's why they play in the American League.....

Easy to go both ways

in New York.

zing

Just ask John Rocker

But how many Professional hitters do they have?

0. If we get one we will have an advantage there.

what

Jeter is a professional and dude bangs models and is teh Yankee captain

He may be a professional

But not a Professional Hitter.

Only one man can fill that role.

green

for good pic

also i added a title

so people could hide the post if they have slow internetz.

2 years on the site and I finally learn the basics!

OH YAH

we’ve got Conrad, Chipper, Medlen and Melky.
Braves > Yankees

MBL1 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

Yes, Wren & Co. have done serious work getting stable of young arms RT @Gator_Purify: Who did the #Braves scouting for pitching is a beast!!

Can’t decipher that.

WE DON"T NEED RELIEF HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jesse Chavez disagrees

If it's an arm Bobby'd actually use to rest the others,...

that’s somewhat understandable.

I agree, we’ve got help in AAA already, but Bobby needs to use them.

Can Pujols pitch?

Where is this Diaz and Ellsbury stuff coming from. A guy mentioned it on twitter too. Is there any truth to this???

If we are getting a reliever and a bat why isn’t there any talk on MLB network or anything?

Diaz

I’m sure several teams would love to have him. I would miss him though.

Lmao

I just texted my friend who is out working today, that we traded for FUGA…

Not sure if I can make up a good prospect that we gave up

Delgado

Schafer

sound right?

no way try

Freddie Freeman

I paniced

and shot him Schafer, he was skeptical but believed it

Schafer?

ding

He replied and I quote:

God fucking damn it, yea he has a better attitude than yunel right?

hahaha

Very nice.

doh

he is on to me

quick

tell him we got cash too!

haha

good idea

we also got Eithier

MBL1 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

Man...

I really want Ellsbury but I don’t want it to cost us Matty

even if the Red Sox wanted Matty

it would be Matty + prospect

I can't imagine it would be a top prospect though

so that part doesn’t worry me

Diaz and Cash for Ellsbury!

Cash is untouchable

We gave up M. Jones to get him

sexbobomb - July 31, 2010 reply

lmao

I actually got a chuckle out of that one…

me too

dunnytwogloves - July 31, 2010 reply

The report says that Cash can hit 350+AVG 40+ HR and 120+ RBI per season

and can play all the positions, include pitcher. His main pitch is a 98 mph fastball. He also throw Slider, Curveball, Change up, Sinker, Cutter, Screwball and KN.

joshant - July 31, 2010 reply

Ellsbury is so much better than Diaz. Diaz can crush lefty’s but not so much the righty’s

MattyD

I would miss his attitude and hustle.

but we have Moylan

he will step up his clubhouse game

You would love Ellsbury speed,defense and lead off abilities.

It would boost the whole line up. Prado gets more RBI chances at 2, Heyward gets more chances to drive in guys at 6. Then Heyward gets on base and Sea Bass does the rest

Also leaves us less vulnerable to LHP.

I'm sure I would

It just makes me sad to think about losing Matty. I’ll be pulling for anyone FW trades for though.

What do you guys think about Carlos Delgado, if Glaus goes to the DL?

Is he even in playing shape?

He could barely

move in winter ball, is he even in shape?

Brian. - July 31, 2010 reply

it'd be interesting

I hear he is getting into playing shape again and willing to work his way up through the minors. Couldn’t hurt to try..

Doesn't sound realistic that he can help in 2010 then

sexbobomb - July 31, 2010 reply

pass

We aren't in a position to experiment

Somebody should tell Joe Mauer

that each copy of MLB10: The Show is identical to the one he last received.

+1000000000000 I’m tired of that commercial

Per: http://twitter.com/BrentSGambill

Ellsbury to the Braves not just rumors.

See? :)

I can report that R.E.M.‘s "What’s the Frequency Kenneth?" was just played on stadium PA here. Thanks. That is all.

I could see

Ellsbury for Dunn, just cause they are in need of bullpen help

why would

the Red Sox make that trade?

Cause they feel bad for us??

hopefully

haha

Ellsbury 2009 stats- 8 HR’s 27 doubles 10 3B 60 RBI’s 70 freakin SB’s .301 average

he stole more bases than all the braves team

joshant - July 31, 2010 reply

WHAT!?!

MBL1 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

Yankees getting Kerry Wood

WTF!

they already stole Austin Kearns

who would have been a decent upgrade for nothing

they have Mo…why do they need a shaky closer?

MBL1 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

set up man

Joba sucks

@nesn

confirming we are NOT getting Ellsbury

grittree RT @311VT2LV: @nesn confirms Ellsbury will NOT be traded to #Braves

DAMMIT!

denial is phase 1

I knew the Sox would never trade him

MBL1 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

Fuck I just looked up those stats and got so excited for nothing.

We are down to the final 30 minutes.

/ shaking as I type

not even

a peep from our camp

Our only hope might have been the rumor of getting Ellsbury

we gonna trade for Votto at 3:57. trust me, I know these things

MBL1 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

DOB

As for #Braves trades, someone said it ain’t over till it’s over, folks. So I’ll just repeat that. Honestly, I’m told they’re working phones

MBL1 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

Something off the radar seems most likely, if anything happens.

How do the Yankees have any players at all in their farm system?

they dont

trade prospects, they take salaries

Most of their deals over the past several years have included prospects.

Their farm system must be absolutely depleted by now.

It doesn't look like

they’re even giving up prospects.

Brian. - July 31, 2010 reply

They have the $

to just buy whatever they need when they need it. Ugh

Jeter is getting old, they just bought the fountain of youth, according to my sources

MBL1 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

Won’t Ponce de Leon be disappointed.

FW probably made the Ellsbury rumor himself

just so everybody thinks he tried

Or Ellsbury did to make himself look wanted.

hey I wanted him...

I’d been clamoring for him the last month…

27 minutes until I can go take a nap! Hooray!

Are you not watching the game with us today?

Nah. Arroyo pitching, so oughta be an autowin. Also, I’m getting Tigers/Red Sox here.

Oh

I thought you might get it since it’s on Fox.

they are playing baseball today?

Amy Nelson

is hott

"Seattle

has approached Atlanta about a Chone Figgins deal. "

Daniel McCracken - July 31, 2010 reply

where is that?

@hotstovedotcom

thanks

found it on MLBTR now too

Ugh. No thanks.

my last name's McCracken!

ATLBRVS_19 - July 31, 2010 reply

Your first name isn’t Phil, is it?

you wish, pervert lol

ATLBRVS_19 - July 31, 2010 reply

I WANT JUNIOR

MBL1 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

JUNIOR!!

MBL1 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

crasnick's twitter

he also says seattle would be eating most of the contract. and also that we’re still looking for a reliever.

Daniel McCracken - July 31, 2010 reply

reply fail.

Daniel McCracken - July 31, 2010 reply

if they eat the contract

I would take him, legit lead-off guy, can play a ton of positions

We need to add pop. Figgins does not provide it.

granted

but a legit lead off hitter would help, could drop Prado to 2nd…

move Heyward to a more RBI producing spot

I don’t see Bobby moving him down the order, but if Figgins ends up happening, who knows?

of course

I mean if he is CHEAP

This

only if they eating most of his contract.

CHAVEZ 4 FIGGINS

I saw that on MLBTR

Figgins….eh

It might be the best deal FW

could get with the $ he had to work with.

fojogt08 Best trade ever: #Braves send Lowe, Kawakami, and McLouth to #Royals in exchange for Greinke, Guillen, and Farnsworth. #wishfulthinking

funny man

haha, u watching google latest too?

Nah, #braves on twitter.

yea, same, just through google. It updates automatically

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source=hp&q=braves&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=db7c271580470832

Ugh.

Hangs head in shame/fail.

Did not know that.

DGreenberg81‎: #RedSox DFA Jeremy Hermida? Would like to see the #Braves take a flyer on that one.

You had me believing that for a second. I wouldn’t be surprised. You know how the Royals love our leftovers.

MBL1 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

Dayton Moore would need to get run out of the state if he pulled that off.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/07/reasonable-chance-of-braves-deal.html

Mariners Approached Braves About Figgins

BabyGoatEater - July 31, 2010 reply

Uh oh

Red Sox DFA Jeremy Hermida OF problems solved

can Figgins play the OF?

the infield is pretty much set unless Glaus or Prado go to the DL

Prado probablly going to hit the 15 day DL

Figgins has played the OF when with the Angels

I doubt he’d be worse than Hinske/Diaz.

Possible replacement for Chipper next year, though his bat at third doesn’t excite me.

And he was the Angels’ starting CF in 06. No idea if he could do it now. Useful player if he doesn’t cost much.

Weldon - July 31, 2010 reply

maybe our 3rd basemen next year

Braves Equals Life! - July 31, 2010 reply

how many players has Adrian Beltre hurt this year lol

Didn’t we screw the mariners w/ some deal with some pitcher named Ramirez or something awhile back???

Of course Figgins

Supposedly has been a bad clubhouse guy in Seattle, take that for what its worth

hey any chance we use that Cash guy in a trade or is he untouchable

MBL1 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

hey any chance we use that Cash guy in a trade or is he untouchable

MBL1 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

He may have to get shipped along with Tango.

Can someone explain to me...

The whole financial “room” situation?

I dont know much about money and such in baseball, but i do know that Yankees have unlimited, but when we talk about Braves, its like they have a cap, per say.

Whats the deal?

Owners set the budget

Liberty Media has the Braves on a very strict budget, so it’s almost as if the Braves have a cap, but that’s implemented by their ownership, not MLB

gotcha.

Liberty Media

is cheap and dont wanna waste money

My best guess

just the internal limit the owners put on how much they're willing to spend

It’s rumored we have little to no payroll room left to make a significant move

sigh.

14 minutes left...

as i can see we just traded javy lopez to the giants….

Hektor DiPaula - July 31, 2010 reply

Lopez

is a decent lefty specialist

I keep telling you – Wren will make a deal at 3:59

MBL1 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

you saying

He likes to be dramatic

He’ll have to. As of 4:01 pm EDT, the player will have to clear waivers first.

BREAKING NEWS: The Atlanta Braves have traded Eddie Perez for Jeff Francouer of the New York Mets per twitter

hehe.

Ed-die! Ed-die! Ed-die!

I love that guy.

but

Eddie was such a good clubhouse guy

PERFECT! OUR OUTFIELD BAT

MBL1 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

Yankees acquired Kerry Wood for Cash

I thought we got Cash yesterday?

Seriously?

He cant handle small markets… You imagine how BAD hell be in NY?

they got Cash’s bro

MBL1 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

did we get the good one

hopefully the Indians got the Mike Maddux version of Cash

Yes. Cash is the bat we’ve been waiting for

MBL1 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

We'll take Figgins of the M's hands

If they take Kawakami off ours…..good deal??

they do like

Japanese players

and Chavez.

too much money owed figgins...

no thanks

HEYWARD HANSON TEHERAN FREEMAN DELGADO VIZZY FOR PUJOLS DO IT WREN

MBL1 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

5 minutes WREN.

Cinco menutos!

just took a four hour nap

anyone want to summarize the big deals for me?

Jones 4 Cash

and Wood 4 Cash

We got Cash yesterday

Yankees got everybody.

Mitch Jones for Cash

Yanks get the world. We get nothing, maybe jacoby/chone.

did someone

mention cash?

Pujols to the Yankees for Sabathia and ARod...

Lincecum to Texas for Josh Hamilton and Neftali Feliz
Oliver Perez for Carlos Zambrano
and
we sent Teheran, Hanson, Mike Dunn, and Cody Johnson for Prince Fielder, and then flipped Glaus to Tampa Bay for BJ Upton

Mclouth for cereal

MBL1 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

It's over....welcome to the Frank Wren era

No trades, just talk

looks like it

I hope your wrong. probably will be a great waiver deal

Fuck you frank Wren

HeywardFTW! - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

Dotel

to the Dodgers

Im gonna get roid rage.

BREAKING NEWS:

Braves just traded Derek Lowe and KK to the Phillies for Doc Halladay and Jayson Werth

Did I mention that was on MLB The Show ’10???? My bad

:|

.

that just meana

Lowe and KK are gonna throw 15 perfect games for the Phillies

on 2k10 some dude tried to trade me Ichiro Gutierrez and Felix

for Prado Heyward and Jurrjens

So, what’s goin’ be? I gotta know right now.

looks like nothing

we are standing pat

wow this sucks

esadb - July 31, 2010 reply

1 minute

Deals might be done but not announced till later, right?

the rule is some type of paperwork has be in the MLB’s office by the 4:00 deadline – I think.

pretty sure the teams have to make a call to the league office with the terms agreed to by 4

then the commissioner’s office would have to approve the deal, so it could be 4:15 or later by the time everything goes through

well, looks like we stand pat, sucks

GOD DAMMIT!!!!!!!1

HAPPY NEW YEAR!

FOUR O CLOCK MAKE A DEAL QUICK

MBL1 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

Well damn

Watching Melky play CF the rest of the year is depressing right now

blanco?

Doubt

Cox sits Melky for Blanco

No shit

HeywardFTW! - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

Deals can still be announced after 4PM EDT. They just need to be called in to the league by then.

shitty shit shit

Why is my MLBTV BLACKED OUT!!!!!!

National game on FOX?

JC29 - July 31, 2010 reply

...oh

;)

And I don't mean Washington lol

JC29 - July 31, 2010 reply

The 4:10 games on Saturday almost always are because of FOX

poormrtoad - July 31, 2010 reply

Wow

HeywardFTW! - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

oh shit

the game is on Fox today UGH

ITS OVER

ITS ALL OVER….
what channel is the game on

MBL1 - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

FOX

The Yankees will pay an additional $200K if Wood stays healthy, tweets Stark.
orlynao.

Braves acquired

Benny “The Jet” Rodriguez for Cash

Sandlot?

BU BU BU BENNY AND THE JET!

I want the great hambino

maybe he can play first

YOU PLAY BALL LIKE A GIRLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!

Brandon League, and Figgins?

hmm…

PriceAtkinson‎: @MegBritGib Sounds like possibly Chone Figgins from the Mariners to the #Braves. Trying to get it finalized now.

heard league

as well

CHogan22‎: RT @beckjason: #Tigers trade Wilkin Ramirez to #Braves for PTBNL or cash.
Twitter – seconds ago

seen by multiple. Whos this guy?

young OF

that was DFAed by the Tigers

beckjason #Tigers trade Wilkin Ramirez to #Braves for PTBNL or cash.

WTF is that?

http://tigers.scout.com/a.z?s=273&p=8&c=1&nid=3674117

Scouting Report: Aggressive hitter with plus raw power and above-average speed; has found a defensive home in the outfield.

I copied someones twitter post...

chill.

haha no i saw it too

who the fuck is that…is what i was going for

Lazy

journalism

looking at his profile

Looks like someone who can play 5 postions and has above average power.
Call up?

Wilkin ramirez?

HeywardFTW! - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

He was one of the dudes in the Lord of the Rings trilogy.

Figgins

Mariners approached us about him. I know he’s having a shitty year, but a change of scenery woud be good

RufRider - July 31, 2010 reply

He wouldnt fight Bobby would he..

wakamats who?

RufRider - July 31, 2010 reply

Will Ohman

traded

Wilkin Ramirez < Ryan Ludwick

Nice work Wren!!

So did we get any1 or not? None of this bullshit

looks like

Wilkin Ramirez is our OF bat

Terrible, terrible player

Can’t even hit in AAA this year.

Was an all-star at AA

And he’s young enough to turn it around.

I was speaking purely from the perspective of this season

As he was saying he was our OF bat. As a interesting AAA player for now I’m fine with it.

wilkin ramirez

baby

Supposedly “much bigger deal” close per Ken Rosenthal via Twitter.

cbs sports

announcing we got ankiel and farnsworth from royals

MLBTR has that too!

bACEballstud - July 31, 2010 reply

Ken_Rosenthal‎: #Braves get W. Ramirez, “much bigger” deal close. #MLB
Twitter – 1 minute ago

?

Farnsworth

again?

Is he worse than Chavez?

I actually like Chavez more than most, but Farnsworth isn’t bad as long as expectations are low.

i like this so far!

....

Aipfaherwg’lijwearwg

I hope we didn’t give up Minor or any other big pieces for these 2.

bACEballstud - July 31, 2010 reply

I sure hope not

That’d grounds for an immediate firing in my book

Braves got Ankiel and Farnsworth.

OH YES

Alright!

More GS surrendered in the NLDS!

WREN WOKE UP!

EricGreggWasPaidOff - July 31, 2010 reply

Looks like it….rumor mill is going into overdrive on Braves signings right now.

Is Ankiel injureD?

Its like Wren woke up, hung over

with his assistants yelling at him to make a move and he just goes to random teams and picks out random players.

The Royals will get reliever Jesse Chavez and two minor leaguers in the trade.

PLEASE TELL ME THIS IS TRUE!

We gave up Gregor BLANCO, Chavez, and Collins..

NO!!!!!!

NOT BLANCO!!! NO!!!

Dude, you act like we gave up our top 3.

Good deal

Do you really covet Blanco over Ankiel, and Chavez over Farnsworth?? Collins was thrown in to sweeten the deal, our pitching is so deep

an alright deal

no big trade there

The key to the deal for Kansas City was Tim Collins, a left-handed pitcher the Braves just got from the Blue Jays in the Yunel Escobar-Alex Gonzalez trade.

Will Ohman

traded to Marlins

Blanco Chavez and Collins

I hate this trade.

But i’m a Blanco fanboy. And I like Collins cause he’s short.

Ankiel, Farnsworth!

HeywardFTW! - July 31, 2010 via mobile reply

Good news everyone!

I love this

Me too. Get used to it, though.

You’ll be seeing this a lot more in the next couple months.

Damn Im gonna miss Greg White.

BUT IS ANYONE WATCHING THE BRAVES RIGHT NOW??

HITSSSSSSSS

damnit I liked Blanco

bACEballstud - July 31, 2010 reply

I'm actually really sad to lose Collins

other than that i like the trade…not that it will accomplish much, but it’s trying something without getting rid of big prospects

Collins

I’m a lil sad that Collins is leaving too.

deewill23 - July 31, 2010 reply

Ive always liked Ankiel

As long as he doesnt have the mustache we win

Can someone sum up the trades we've made so far?

Jones for Cash

You win.

Is anyone really all that surprised that it was KC we dealt with? Does Wren know the phone number to any other GMs?

But yeah, we can always put Ankiel on the mound if we need to……..

LAWL. HAPPY LAWL!

Figgins?????

yea, whats the deal?

Waiting to hear

I’ve been going back and forth between MLBTR and O’brien’s twitter

I am guessing it is dead

since we got Farnsworth from KC

Probably

Because we got Ankiel. Farnsworth is irrelevant

yea, whats the deal?

ooops.

No more Chavez!!!

deewill23 - July 31, 2010 reply

best part of the deals.

We just made a few minor moves to back up Jones for cash

haha yeah

I lol’d.

yay

Rick “Wild Thing Vaughn” Ankiel and Kyle “Bentley” Farnsworth…

2-0 braves. GOOD NEWS ALL AROUND!

Figgins and League sounded much better than

Ankiel and Farnsworth!