In the first 4 innings off of Mets starter Mike Pelfrey, the Braves had 7 hits and 3 walks... but no runs. Lots of stranded runners and double plays contributed, as did the fact that all those hits were singles. But the Braves did run Pelfrey's pitch count up quite a bit, and their hard work paid off in the 5th.
The Braves started the 5th with 5 straight singles, from Chipper Jones, Brian McCann, Troy Glaus, Eric Hinske, and Omar Infante. That ended Pelfrey's night. Elmer Dessens came in and got a double-play from Yunel Escobar, but that made the score 3-0. Tim Hudson then came up and got the Braves' first extra-base hit, a looping double down the right-field line that scored the Braves 4th run. Pelfrey ended with a line of 4 IP, 12 H (all singles), 4 R, 3 BB, 2 K, and a -0.165 WPA.
Tim Hudson, in addition to his hitting, was his usual self on the mound. He gave up only 6 baserunners in 7 innings, and when he did have baserunners, he often got a double play to end the threat (2 ground-ball DPs and one line-drive DP). Huddy got his usual 60% ground balls (12/20), and really could have gone another inning if needed. He threw only 92 pitches in 7 innings, or 1 fewer than Pelfrey threw in 4-plus innings. And of course, he didn't give up any runs. Hudson's final line was 7 IP, 4 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 3 K, and a 0.315 WPA.
Jonny Venters and Billy Wagner worked perfect innings in the 8th and 9th to close out the game with ease.
Six different Braves had mutli-hit games, led by Omar Infante's 3 hits. Omar now has 7 hits in the series, and there's still one more game to go. That'll do. Martin Prado went hitless for the second straight game, though he did have 2 walks.
The Braves have now clinched the series win and will have at least a 4-game lead going into the All-Star Break. That's pretty sweet. Even better, they have a chance to win tomorrow and take as much as a 6-game lead into the break (depending on the Phillies' results tonight and tomorrow). It's been a hugely successful first half so far, and winning tomorrow would just be the icing on the cake.
MVP
Tim Hudson-- 7 shutout innings, plus 2 hits, an RBI, and a 0.107 WPA as a hitter
Honorable Mention
Omar Infante-- 3/4, RBI, 0.137 WPA
LVP
Mike Pelfrey
MVP in a Losing Effort
Angel Pagan (for the 2nd straight night)-- 3/4, 2B, 2 SB, and a 0.137 WPA
Clutch Play
Brian McCann's RBI single in the 5th (0.122 WPA)
Unclutch Play
Martin Prado grounding into a 1-2-3 double play with the bases loaded and no outs in the 4th (-0.184 WPA)... but we forgive you, Martin!
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Solid Victory
Now let’s hope Lowe can match Santana can be good enough for us to win. Oh by the way, the Bullpen is the real reason why we are winning all these games. So often in previous years, I would get nervous/cringe when Bobby goes to the pen. Now, going to the pen feels like closing the door on the game.
romone_braves91 - July 10, 2010
PERFECT GAME ALERT
cincy pitcher tim wood (who?) has a perfecto through five
atl192485 - July 10, 2010
I read as far as the name
He has no chance.
Bronn - July 10, 2010
meh, stranger things have happened
atl192485 - July 10, 2010
See Galarrage, Armando.
kauf67 - July 10, 2010
AAA
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
Travis Wood
yeah, I don’t know him either…
coldriver10 - July 10, 2010
It's against the Phillies
so I hope he gets it.
Jacob Peterson - July 10, 2010
It will be meaningless if the Reds can’t score for him.
romone_braves91 - July 10, 2010
Still perfect through 7
Of course, a run would help the cause.
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
Only 4 baserunners total in that game.
Wow.
Jacob Peterson - July 10, 2010
Yeah...
Roy’s pitchin a gem too.
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
man on 2nd
0 outs for cincy, lets go!
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
Sac bunt time...
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
Success! C'mon Votto
Sac fly or a 2 run bomb…either one works
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
man on 3rd
sac fly
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
crap....thought Votto was up
batting order fail
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
fail
some other guy
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
I'd take a jam shot over 2B
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
Damnit
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
ffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuccccccccccccckkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
Pac
We need a runs thread for Cincy
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
eh.
not worth the effort, sorry.
Jacob Peterson - July 10, 2010
LOL
This is true…
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
hahaha
FUCK! Doc is too good
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
That blew
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
23 up, 23 down
Get a f*ckin run Cincy!!
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
...and by the way
I love MLB Network. Beats watching ESPN for anything.
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
Perfect through 8
Anyone got a rally monkey for Cincy for 1/2 an inning?
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
How about your profile pic?
Jacob Peterson - July 10, 2010
Haha
The WTF pic? Couldn’t stop laughing the first time I saw it, so it had to go up there.
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
Votto
all we nned
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
Phillips, #2 hitter, Votto
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
Sounds good to me.
Jacob Peterson - July 10, 2010
Cabrera #2
and I like he has 2 hits vs. Roy tonight.
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
Man,
he’s been terrible this year. .285 OBP? UGGH.
Jacob Peterson - July 10, 2010
take a seat
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
what if it goes into 10?
and he still has perfecto…would he go another…depends on pitch count, anyone got it?
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
Gimmie 2 secs
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
92 pitches
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
idk
if he can go 10
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
He could go 10, easy
assuming the 9th is perfect.
Jacob Peterson - July 10, 2010
well then
votta making sure we dont have to go 10
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
What if...
BOTH guys go 10 innings? When was the last time that happened?
Jacob Peterson - July 10, 2010
That'd be sick
I don’t think it’s ever happened in the modern era. I’m sure back in the day, pitchers went 14 innings and threw 200 pitches.
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
but one having a perfecto
could this be the first time with a perfecto
And not jinxing… would it be the 1st 10 inning perfecto if it happens?
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
I don’t think he is going to make it pass the 9th.
romone_braves91 - July 10, 2010
i've never heard of such a thing
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
OK, wow...
In 1995, two guys both went 10 innings… in DIFFERENT games. Bobby Jones and Todd Stottlemyre on June 16th. Still looking for the same game.
Jacob Peterson - July 10, 2010
wow
thats even more impressive IMO
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
OK
There are actually 2 more cases of that in the 90’s.
The last time 2 guys went 10+ in the same game: Dave Stewart and Erik Hanson, Oakland vs. Seattle, August 1, 1990. Neither gave up a run and Stew went 11 for the win.
Jacob Peterson - July 10, 2010
ELEVEN???
Wow.
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
And...
Halladay is out
kbertling353 - July 10, 2010
the only people i can imagine going so long into a game are knuckleballers, but those guys arent as far as i know
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
Impressive
Definitely different times now. The emphasis on pitch counts these days will prevent anything like that from happening again. I think Steve Avery was our case of a young guy getting abused and Bobby’s been reluctant to push his young guys too far early in their careers ever since.
AuditDawg - July 10, 2010
1959 Harvey Haddix took a perfecto to the 13th and lost…Lew Burdette had a shutout as well, I’m not sure how long he pitched but it was at least 9
Swo12bv - July 10, 2010
92 for wood through 8
atl192485 - July 10, 2010
Roy is absolutely dealing right now
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
what if
we had 2 starters in the 10th? how awesome
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
incredible
is it perfecto or no-no?
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
perfecto
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
oh man
this maybe the best game of the season IMO…if both starters go 10
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
Oh wait...
Roy’s up 3rd in the inning. They’ll pinch hit for him.
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
damn it
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
Damn
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
and...
now they gotta great chance to win
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
If they win 3 straight walk-offs I might just puke
AuditDawg - July 10, 2010
sorry we couldn't help you out
But you should check out the fun baseball conversation we are having with AndyinGA.
justin007000 - July 10, 2010
I think there was a guy with that name here once
Some kid that got banned, maybe. I’m not sure.
Bronn - July 10, 2010
If I'm right
He’s like 16 years old and completely lacks social skills.
Bronn - July 10, 2010
Justincredible is still here..
i kid because i love
Swo12bv - July 10, 2010
I’m reading the convo now….I’ve never seen him in here before
bpk228480 - July 10, 2010
yeah, i thought he was from this blog
just because it is so weird for a Braves fan to only be a member of Redreporter.
Anyway, I do wish you guys luck, after getting over the way we embarrassed ourselves against you.
Because of TBS I watched more Braves games when I was little then Reds games, despite living only 20 miles from GABP. I was very sad when Skip died, and I would like to see Bobby do well in his final year.
justin007000 - July 11, 2010
+1
Go get a win tomorrow.
Bronn - July 11, 2010
Just got a hit
Fuck the Phillies. Fuck them all to hell.
AuditDawg - July 10, 2010
This.
A million times over.
MichaelProcton - July 10, 2010
nevermind
fuck, great while it lasted
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
You might see it
I would be shocked if Roy doesn’t come out for the 10th inning.
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
I’ve never seen anything like this (still tech. haven’t). I heard Pedro got the same treatment while in the Expos.
romone_braves91 - July 10, 2010
Yeah
I wouldn’t want to allow a perfect game against me either, especially the irony that would be attached to it.
kp.atl - July 10, 2010
Dusty IS his manager...
MichaelProcton - July 10, 2010
ya he might throw a complete game and pitch tomorrow
Swo12bv - July 10, 2010
Get it, O
Chief Noc-A-Homa - July 10, 2010
This team sucks and has no power we need a RH bat Rabble Rabble Rabble
Bronn - July 10, 2010
Agreed
We do need on more thumper from the Right side if we truly want to go to the big dance this year. Good post Bronn I completely agree, I just don’t want a rental player.
Holty_Panthers_Fan - July 10, 2010
……………..
EricGreggWasPaidOff - July 10, 2010
ability to recognize sarcasm fail
Swo12bv - July 10, 2010
I refuse to embrace sarcasm font.
Bronn - July 10, 2010
you shouldnt have to…most people recognize by the name the quality of the poster…and then when its nonsense its usually sarcasm…also, the added “RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE” is kinda like a big flashy light
no one who rabbles actually says rabble
Swo12bv - July 10, 2010
Is it sad that I actually said “rabble rabble rabble” at Ron Darling on my TV Friday night when he was bashing Yunel?
UMDBHIK - July 10, 2010
…kinda, yeah.
!Vive la Francoeur! - July 11, 2010
rabble rabble rabble rabble
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
We won't be able to face the Mutts in the World Series.
MichaelProcton - July 10, 2010
Hey someone tell the Mets , LOL.
Someone needs to tell the Mets that they are not playing the O’s or the Indians anymore what a bunch of fakers and pretenders. Ho hum another series win for the Bravos. Huddy is back, pitching is solid and the bullpen has been the strongest part of this ballclub. Last time I can remember the bullpen being close to this good was when we had D. Holmes and C. Hammond (both of whom were considered past their primes).
Simply put this team keeps winning and getting no attention from the mainstream media which is fine by me (love being the underdog entrenched under the radar screen).
Noticed Y. Escobar is now batting way towards bottom of the order I believe it was 8th in the order today and he had to singles. Still cannot believe the guy has no homers at this stage of the season. Hopefully he can find his stroke in the second half and trading him would be foolish. I would still like to add one more OF however at the deadline but not a damn rental player at least a guy we can keep around for a couple of years and nobody named Corey Hart plz. DEAR GOD !
Go Braves man it is great to see us back on top where we truly belong.
Holty_Panthers_Fan - July 10, 2010
LMAO!!
I feel the urge to hop over to the Mets blog right now. They’re probably screamin right now. Fire Manuel, Minaya, trade everybody..et al.
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
The first two are actually good ideas, though.
Jacob Peterson - July 10, 2010
They have been for quite some time, Pac
Up here in Syracuse, a bunch of my buddies are Mets fans. They’ve been screaming for it for quite a while.
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
As they should
That has to be the most incompetent Manager/GM combo in baseball, right?
Jacob Peterson - July 10, 2010
Without question
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
Minaya is terrible
all he does is go after Latin players and over pays them and look what that has gotten him…
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
A payroll full of d-bags
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
Oliver Perez
3 yrs 36 million…hahahahahaha thats a top 5 worst deal in MLB, along with Mr. Lowe though
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
Don't forget Luis Castillo's deal
That’s gotta be up there too.
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
idk if it is top 5
i’d but Lowe/Perez/ and Vernon Wells o it for sure, but would have to do more research now
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
Lowe isn't even in the top 25 worst deals, for me.
Sure, he’s the worst on the Braves, but that doesn’t mean it’s actually that bad.
Jacob Peterson - July 10, 2010
4 yrs 60 million, for our worst pitcher… and highest paid player
i think its a terrible deal
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
He may be our worst starter,
but that does not mean he is bad. Actually look at his numbers and you’ll see he’s above-average. We just have a lot of above-average starters.
Jacob Peterson - July 10, 2010
wow
he is doing a lot better than i though
i’ll take a 4.40 ERA, but not for 15 million
I will say he has been very solid his recent starts though
As long as he can keep the sinker down he is fine, but when it is elevated it is crushed
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
My biggest gripe with Lowe is that he is going up against other teams Aces. He is not good enough for those battles. Going up against a 3 or 4 maybe.
romone_braves91 - July 10, 2010
In the playoffs,
you can bet he’ll be the 3rd or 4th starter, so no worries.
Jacob Peterson - July 10, 2010
Betcha he'll be in the pen, my friend
Huddy
Hanson
JJ
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
If we need a 4th starter,
he’d be it for sure,though.
Jacob Peterson - July 10, 2010
idk
i think we could use a spot start from Lowe…if we make the playooffs(knock on wood)
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
We're going to get a lot farther ahan a five-game series.
MichaelProcton - July 10, 2010
IF we make them
no jumping to conclusions
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
At 85%, I'll jump without looking.
MichaelProcton - July 10, 2010
I feel Bobby is going to slot him in for 2. I think the Playoff rotation should be Hudson/Hanson/JJ/Meds. That’s just me.
romone_braves91 - July 10, 2010
Meds needs to be in the bullpen come playoff time
His arm will already be verging on overworked by October, no reason to burn him out completely when we have lots of good options.
Jacob Peterson - July 10, 2010
I got a perfect guy for the 4 spot…………….John Smoltz!
romone_braves91 - July 10, 2010
not medlen
also: stop we are 70 games away from playoofs, we cant be talking about the rotations
But IMO Medlen wouldnt be a starter, but a long reliever
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
Yep...+1
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
Just pretend like
all these comments are prefaced by “if”
Jacob Peterson - July 10, 2010
ok
i like it
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
you are such a baseball superstitious.
romone_braves91 - July 10, 2010
we are in July
no need to talk playoofs, also im very superstitious
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
Nobody's talking
“playoofs” :)
Jacob Peterson - July 10, 2010
Ah...the Jim Mora reference
Never gets old.
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
tehe
spelling error
and deciding what the rotation in the “playoofs” isnt talking playoffs?
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
Not a long reliever.
He’d be a high-leverage guy. Bobby’s already shown he trusts him in that role.
MichaelProcton - July 10, 2010
I think he'll do it based on who's pitching well at the time.
I know he values the veteran presence and all (and Lowe has been a good playoff pitcher), but I think he’ll keep him out of a key matchup if he doesn’t pitch really well down the stretch.
MichaelProcton - July 10, 2010
yup
tommorow is gonna be a tough game
Lowe vs. Johan, it’ll be tough
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
After the first few weeks of the season, aces don’t really match up directly. In fact, kawakami seemed to get a lot of the ace matchups when he was in the rotation.
telemakhos - July 10, 2010
Really?
You realize that the rotation doesn’t matter except for about the first week of the season.
MichaelProcton - July 10, 2010
dont forgot about Soriano, Aramis Ramirez (only bad if he never rights the ship from last year’s shoulder injury), and Fukodome….speaking of worst GM/Manager combo…Lou isnt that bad but Jim Hendry is so bad he might make up the difference (Bobby cox and Jim Hendry might be the worst GM/Manager combo….and I think Bobby is a really good manager)
Swo12bv - July 10, 2010
Lowe's deal
is not 1/10th as bad as Perez. At least Lowe is pitching, and pitching decently. Perez is worth less than nothing.
Jacob Peterson - July 10, 2010
Million dollar arm...
10 cent head
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
I used that phrase today!
Just thought I’d note that. You may proceed.
MichaelProcton - July 10, 2010
Crap
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
Ya
but we got 2 more years left on that deal…hopefully he can deliever like he has been recently and not like the begginning of the season
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
Or trade him to NYY
for Vasquez. How great would that be??
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
So?
He’ll still be worth probably 2/3 as much money as he ends up making in the deal. Perez is worth negative money.
Jacob Peterson - July 10, 2010
Where is Perez now?
Is he down in AA? I thought I remember him b*tching about not wanting to get sent down, last I looked.
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
He's "rehabbing"
from his “injury”. I think they have to bring him up sometime around the end of the month or send him down for real.
Jacob Peterson - July 10, 2010
"injury"
ya he cant hit the strike zone
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
Or bite the bullet and DFA...
then the Royals can pick him up off the scrapheap.
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
Wait a minute!
Perez was never on the Braves.
MichaelProcton - July 10, 2010
oh ya perez is a joke
he isnt pitching and cant hit the strike zone, that was a pathetic signing…but lowe isnt nearly worth 15 million a year, he has a 5+ ERA
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
ERA FTW!
MichaelProcton - July 10, 2010
Crazy talk.
Lowe will give you 200 innings of adequate pitching every year. That’s worth $12 mil a year, or very close to it.
MichaelProcton - July 10, 2010
$12M on the dot for 2009, projected for around $11M for this year…
Swo12bv - July 10, 2010
Steve Phillips/Bobby Valentine
Makes Minaya/Manuel look nearly competent.
UMDBHIK - July 10, 2010
Phillips is bad but he did get them Wright and Reyes
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
Reyes looks like that oblique is really bothering him
Had to bat righty last night and tonight.
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
That's been the case for a little bit now.
That play before he got pulled, I think, is even more telling.
MichaelProcton - July 10, 2010
Phillips
He also traded Scott Kazmir for absolutely nothing. If you’ve read Moneyball it’s funny because anytime Billy Beane wanted to take advantage of somebody he’d call Phillips first.
AuditDawg - July 10, 2010
Victor Zambrano
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
lol
makes me laugh just thinking about it
Jacob Peterson - July 10, 2010
such a bad trade
maybe he saw Zambrano and skipped everything else
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
he thought his 1st name was Carlos...
not Victor
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
exactly
we might have steve phillips here
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
I never sexually harrassed that woman at ESPN
Oh sh*t, I blew my cover.
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
im so glad
not that i wish him any harm as a person, i just hated him as a broadcaster
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
yeah he was brutal
but then again, it IS ESPN we’re talking about.
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
People i like on ESPN
Peter Gammons, Timmy K, Dave Winefield, and Joe Morgan
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
which one of these is not like the other?
bpk228480 - July 10, 2010
Gammons is not on ESPN anymore.
romone_braves91 - July 10, 2010
health problems right?
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
No.
He’s on MBLN.
MichaelProcton - July 10, 2010
-1
Because Gammons isn’t on there anymore. He went to MLB Network
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
Then again
That’s probably not fair. Schuerholz traded Adam Wainwright for a rental year of JD Drew. At least he got us to the playoffs though. I guess every GM makes bad deals, but Philips just seemed adept at it.
AuditDawg - July 10, 2010
Phillips
just did whatever his crazy whim was on a given day. Occasionally, it worked. Often, it was hilariously bad. But he was always entertaining.
Jacob Peterson - July 10, 2010
and Tex...
nevrmind i’ll stop there
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
Hence my "ever GM makes bad deals"
I’ll take John Schuerholz’s bad deals that resulted in 15 straight division titles, 5 pennants, and 1 World Series over any of Phillips bad deals every day. I’m just sayin’.
AuditDawg - July 10, 2010
Was that not Wren?
MichaelProcton - July 10, 2010
That was an extraordinarily fair trade.
MichaelProcton - July 10, 2010
as quick as possible, can you explain why you are against the Teix trade but in favor of the Drew trade…the Tex trade had it worked out would have given us over a year and a half of one of the best 1B in baseball…
I feel like the Tex trade is looked at poorly bc Andrus and Feliz turnd out so well (and the odds of that happening werent good, u usually dont trade for two guys who are in low A and have them both turn into starters) and bc we got nothing when we traded Tex (which is completely irrelveant when discussing the actual trade itself
Swo12bv - July 10, 2010
Because Teixiera did absolutely nothing to help us get to the playoffs or win games.
MichaelProcton - July 12, 2010
He did everything he could to help us…the Sp just decided to all get hurt.
justincredubil02 - July 13, 2010
And tried
to both of them.
Brian. - July 11, 2010
Wow!
This season is exceeding my wildest dreams. This is how Bobby deserves to leave the game. Braves are the best team in the East. They seem to have the perfect guy for every role. Well done Wren. Go Braves!!
Frozen Fan - July 10, 2010
watching the game i didnt realize…12 singles given up by pelfrey? that has to be some sort of record for a pitcher to give up 12 singles without any extra base hits.
awix - July 10, 2010
Didn’t the Braves have a game this year where they gave up 16 singles- think it was the Tigers.
Broccoman - July 10, 2010
Correct, it was 16 singles and 1 home run.
Creek Johnson - July 10, 2010
I was pumped
because I was facing him in my fantasy league. Braves win…Pelfrey loss. It’s been a good day.
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
I’d almost forgot what it looked like to see a five or six game lead on the division and just club the Mets over and over.
kalesi - July 10, 2010
Yeah it’s been a while.
romone_braves91 - July 10, 2010
Out of all 200 channels on my TV, Fox Sports had a glitch, It was annoying not to hear anything , but maybe it was a good thing….I never did like FS commentating.
Joseph_C - July 10, 2010
I didn’t think it was too bad. Kevin Millar did a pretty decent job.
coldriver10 - July 10, 2010
were we listening to the same broadcast?
that was in the top 5 of the worst broadcasts I’ve heard all year and I’ve listened to a few White Sox and Nats games.
DogDaysofSummer - July 10, 2010
Agreed
That was the worst broadcasting I have heard. I will say they did seem to favor the Braves which was great. But wtf Millar, everything about that guy was annoying. When he repeatedly said Chipper Jones I wanted to punch the tv! or at least mute it.
BTW I am Tessa, fan of the Braves for 16 years! And is Millar on MLB Network also? He looked familiar.
asset - July 10, 2010
yea he’s on MLBN too…just as incredibly annoying there
bpk228480 - July 10, 2010
Hell, I thought they were raving ridiculously about every player in the game.
MichaelProcton - July 10, 2010
Had to mute it...
After being told by one of the dudes that Alex Cora is the kind of player you need on a winning ball club. I would argue that such a statement is exactly the opposite of the truth.
Biggus Rickus - July 10, 2010
I thought the exact same thing.
MichaelProcton - July 12, 2010
JHey hit two BP homers today
MBL1 - July 10, 2010 via mobile
solid
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
And J-Hey isn’t playing in the ASG. I guess I’m okay with that.
Joseph_C - July 10, 2010
thats good news
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
Selfless Heyward shines again.
Joseph_C - July 10, 2010
And gets in his shot at Selig's Midsummer Farce.
MichaelProcton - July 10, 2010
He’ll still get to be there, just won’t get to play…
MBL1 - July 10, 2010 via mobile
as long as he doesnt play
im happy
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
It would have been cool to see him play, but it’ll be cooler when he’s back in the lineup contributing.
UMDBHIK - July 10, 2010
Random comment.....
Buster Onley just tweeted that Fielder is available for a trade and not a one year rental. Prince is going to want more than 5yrs/125 million during Free Agencyr. Who in the hell is going to pay that?
romone_braves91 - July 10, 2010
American Competitive Eating Association
atl192485 - July 10, 2010
no…the cant even pay that japanese guy
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
fielder...
great now another player everyone is gonna bring up
Unless we want to get rid of JT, Vizzy, Minor, Delgado, and Freeman stay away from Prince
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
I wouldn't mind having Prince
but I wouldn’t give up much of anything to get him.
Jacob Peterson - July 10, 2010
I’d rather have Glaus and then subsequently Freeman when he’s ready.
I wouldn’t give up my own belly button lint for Fielder.
UMDBHIK - July 10, 2010
new rosterbatin thread everyone is gonna say get Fielder
i honestly would much rather not
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
3 outcome hitter
BB, K or HR…no thanks…he’ll be Jason Giambi in 2 years.
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
Nothing wrong with a 3 true outcome guy
as long as you don’t pay them craptons of $$ in their decline phase. I think Prince will be fine for the next couple years anyway.
Jacob Peterson - July 10, 2010
Dunn's been pretty damned good for the Nats.
MichaelProcton - July 10, 2010
Yea, but he hates baseball
bpk228480 - July 10, 2010
But he loves lamp.
atl192485 - July 10, 2010
except for the fact that he is a 280 hitter for his career, and averages 30 2Bs a season…he is a complete hitter, not just a TTO guy…
but you go ahead and think what you want.
Swo12bv - July 10, 2010
TRADE 4 FIELDER STICK HIM IN CF
HE WILL BE BEST OFFENSIVE CF IN THE HISTROY OF THE WOLRD
atl192485 - July 10, 2010
As ong as
you replace the baseball with a cheeseball, he sure will be.
frozendesert - July 11, 2010
Wise words. A selfish, one dimensional dope who is two weeks from eating his way out of the league at any given time is not the sort of guy I want to see the Braves make a long term investment in.
Sam Jethroe - July 10, 2010
Well, assuming we got him,
we wouldn’t be making a long-term investment at all. He’s owed about $5M the rest of this year and then I believe he has one more year of arbitration. Which would prob. come out around $14-15M. That’s reasonable, and at the end of that we could let him walk and take the prospects.
I wouldn’t trade for him because we don’t really need a 1B, but it wouldn’t be a long-term thing and he’s an excellent hitter right now. He’s not one-dimensional, either. Or selfish. Where are you even getting that from?
Jacob Peterson - July 10, 2010
I have a major problem with guys who stand around and just try to hit the ball into orbit. That goes for him and Dunn, as well.
“Self aggrandizing” is probably a better term than “selfish” That whole bowling pins thing last year in a completely meaningless game rubbed me the wrong way. Really, really, REALLY the wrong way.
Sam Jethroe - July 10, 2010
Indeed. You have a problem with orchestrated team celebrations? I guess you didn’t like the “empty dugout” celebration either.
Where you see showboating, I see team cohesion.
Bronn - July 11, 2010
I just gave you a plus one
Don’t go ruining our good vibe.
I got into some major discussions of this last year. That thing seemed more like it was designed to rub the Giants face in a tough loss and celebrate the Wonder of Prince rather than celebrate their own win. That took place on the field, in full view of the Giants as they walked off. Our empty dugout thing took place in the Braves dugout and locker room. Very different things.
Sam Jethroe - July 11, 2010
They said at the time
that they were going to do it for whoever hit the next walkoff HR. It happened to be Prince. Wasn’t about him at all. Also, they apologized later and said they wouldn’t do it again.
Your characterization of him as a player is all wrong, too. He’s a complete hitter, not just a HR guy. Though he hits lots of those, and that is a good thing.
Jacob Peterson - July 11, 2010
I really don’t think he’s a 14-15 mil per year kind of guy though. Don’t get me wrong, his power is outrageous, but he’s limited to 1B and eventually DH, and frankly we have bigger needs elsewhere.
Prince Fielder is the LAST player people should be looking into.
UMDBHIK - July 11, 2010
Hey,
I’m not saying we should trade for him. Just saying he’s not a bad player, or on a bad contract.
Jacob Peterson - July 11, 2010
how sexy would 6 gm lead going into All-Star break look?
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
Pretty damn sexy.
Jacob Peterson - July 10, 2010
Fox
Kevin Millar and that other guy were quite possibly the 2 shititest announcers ever..and not hearing the ball hit the bat and ball pop the catcher glove was very irratating for some reason
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
I thought Ran Gant talked too much during the broadcast the other night. Kevin Millar talks too much as well and is a blowhard, to boot.
Bronn - July 10, 2010
Ugh, Millar
They listed who he thought should be pitching in the ASG for the NL and it included Jimenez, Halladay, Wainwright, and….Pelfrey. Seriously? Pelfrey? Over Josh Johnson? Over Tim Hudson? Over the several pitchers doing better?
award6 - July 10, 2010
Fox announcers are TURRIBLE
MBL1 - July 10, 2010 via mobile
Bill Walton...is that you??
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
Gnarles Barkley
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
Joe Buck isn't that bad.
MichaelProcton - July 10, 2010
That's true.
He’s worse.
Sam Jethroe - July 10, 2010
Philly is being no-hit through six! Matching 0’s with the Reds though.
Joseph_C - July 10, 2010
whose on the mound for cincy?
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
Travis Wood.
Joseph_C - July 10, 2010
yeesh
another no-name doing it
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
UN-JINX!
there’s no way the phillies will get no-hit. They’ll win the division of course. They always do. Great pitching great bullpen great offense. That team has too much talent to get no hit
omg i sound like joe morgan
MBL1 - July 10, 2010 via mobile
Six innings is still impressive….for an injured Phils lineup.
Joseph_C - July 10, 2010
http://www.minorleagueball.com/2010/7/10/1563467/freddie-freeman
everyone hop and and tell em what freedie is all about
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
how lucky are the Phillies
other pitcher gets a perfect game through 8 and yet the Phillies can still win
Jtpdolphins2009 - July 10, 2010
they are getting hot
and that is a verry bad thing
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
they have won their last 2 games both on walkoffs
I would hardly call that hot
Jtpdolphins2009 - July 10, 2010
remember what sparked us?
was it the 6 run comeback against…oh the Reds,
i just realized it was Red against ius too…maybe coming back from 6 against cincy is good luck
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
3 Now
asset - July 10, 2010
I wouldn't exactly say that
I wouldn’t call the way they played against us, winning two walk offs, and getting perfect gamed through 8 innings heating up by any stretch of the imagination.
AuditDawg - July 10, 2010
exactly
Jtpdolphins2009 - July 10, 2010
dusty baker
needs to take travis wood out now
atl192485 - July 10, 2010
nice bunt
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
LOL
Way to waste a pinch hitter Charlie.
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
if the reds end up losing this game too
imagine how profitable operating a liquor store in cincinnati would be
atl192485 - July 10, 2010
it already is
dont forget the Bengals lol
Jtpdolphins2009 - July 10, 2010
homemade pizza in the oven
kbertling353 - July 10, 2010
you must have no life
Jtpdolphins2009 - July 10, 2010
Got Me!
kbertling353 - July 10, 2010
there is more to pizza than DiGornio
just FYI
Jtpdolphins2009 - July 10, 2010
Like Red Baron?
MichaelProcton - July 10, 2010
And Totino's!
award6 - July 10, 2010
not as much as it is in Cleveland. The whole state is in trouble.
romone_braves91 - July 10, 2010
I feel so bad for that city
It’s gonna crumble.
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
Yeah, their best team is the Browns. Ouch!
romone_braves91 - July 10, 2010
dont bring that scum up!
a projected 20-40 million dollars will be lost from all the bars, because no one is gonna go to watch games
Also they are saying people are gonna lose EVEN more jobs because of this
I didnt like LBJ before, i hate him now
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
Me too man....
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
it's not LBJ's fault cleveland's economy was based off him...
atl192485 - July 10, 2010
BS. it's not his responsibility to provide jobs to Cleveland, OH.
kbertling353 - July 10, 2010
He was their hero
and he left because he isnt Kobe or Micheal or Magic… because he is dusty and needs to be paired with 2 of the other best players i the NBA to win
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
Like Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom and Ron Artest and Andrew Bynum?
Or did you mean Scottie Pippen and Dennis Rodman and Horace Grant?
James Worthy and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and Byron Scott, maybe?
Get off that “James wasn’t good enough to win” bullshit. His teams were always garbage.
MichaelProcton - July 10, 2010
mo williams, varejoa, JAMESON!!!!, Shaq…they did everything they could and had a great team
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
Spoiler Alert!
those are not good players
DogDaysofSummer - July 10, 2010
Jamison is a good player, Mo Williams was an allstar (although he did not really deserve it)
bpk228480 - July 10, 2010
Williams is a fifth option on a championship team.
Varejao is a solid rebounder and defender…and nothing else.
JamIson hasn’t been good for years.
Shaq is 300 years old.
MichaelProcton - July 10, 2010
Varejao is probably actually the best of those guys. Kind of the Dennis Rodman of that group-high energy, athletic, aggressive on the boards.
Bronn - July 10, 2010
I don't mind him.
Really wish the Cavs hadn’t matched the offer sheet for him from my Bobbies (although they really just did it as a favor to his agent because the Cavs wouldn’t commit.)
MichaelProcton - July 12, 2010
he is supposed to lead a team to a championship like legends: Jordan, Magic, Bird, Kobe. He does not have the heart of a champion and never will, he is an egoistical loser
Kobe:The Legend - July 11, 2010
oh and by the way:
Lebron betrayed the whole city, he is a traitor to them, always with the comments of: “I will always be a Cavalier”, “Cleveland is my home, I will never leave”. bullshit like that is why lebron is the most hated player in the NBA right now, too much ego, not a winner
Kobe:The Legend - July 11, 2010
Cleveland traded him…
justincredubil02 - July 11, 2010
Lebron picked the decision
Kobe:The Legend - July 11, 2010
And Cleveland agreed to a sign-and-trade, which technically means that they traded him.
justincredubil02 - July 11, 2010
they needed to.
Kobe:The Legend - July 11, 2010
okay..you are just nitpicking… Yes Cleveland traded LeBron. But, LeBron was a free agent and could just sign with the Heat outright, if he wanted to. The Heat wanted to do a sign and trade so that they could get some money from Cleveland to help pay, and wanted to add the sixth year to the contract, which only Cleveland could offer, due to some NBA free agent rules. The heat did the same thing with Bosh and Toronto.
dkinser86 - July 11, 2010
Uhh, no, that's not how it works.
Cleveland did not pay ANY of James’ contract.
MichaelProcton - July 12, 2010
Lebron turned one of the worst teams in the league into one of the best – all by himself.
Kobe couldn’t do anything without any help.
justincredubil02 - July 11, 2010
Lebron had a great team compared to what Kobe had:
Chris Mihm? Smush Parker? Kwame Brown? Devean George? Brian Cook? half of them aren’t in the NBA right now
Kobe:The Legend - July 11, 2010
hahaha…how conveniently you leave off Derek Fisher, Wil Bynum, Paol Gasol and lamar Odom.
justincredubil02 - July 11, 2010
I'm talking about Lebron's "terrible" team in 2007 and Kobe's 2006.
Lebron’s 2009-2010 team was great. man for man they could beat the Lakers, but because Lebron wasn’t a good leader and not a winner, didn’t have a heart of a champion like Kobe did, didn’t went far. Lebron did quit ( kinda ) on the team against the Celtics, he was making turnover after turnover.
Kobe:The Legend - July 11, 2010
just…wow.
justincredubil02 - July 11, 2010
how can you possibly call Lebron a winner?
Kobe:The Legend - July 11, 2010
Well, for one, he turned one of the perenial worst teams in the NBA into a legit playoff contender – without any other major pieces.
Would you consider Dan Marino a winner?
justincredubil02 - July 11, 2010
the Cavs with him are a first place team.
But without him they are still a playoff team, they are not bad without him
Kobe:The Legend - July 11, 2010
Yes. Yes they are. They are pretty bad without him.
justincredubil02 - July 11, 2010
no they are not, they are still a 6th spot in the Eastern Conference.
Mo Williams will play better, Jamison will return to his 20/10 ways, JJ Hickson is improving, Moon will help in the defense, and they will acquire some role players.
Kobe:The Legend - July 11, 2010
Do you have any IDEA how far the 6 seed in the East is from the #1 seed in the entire league?
MichaelProcton - July 12, 2010
Being a playoff team in the East and being a good team are two different things.
dkinser86 - July 11, 2010
Also, it’s bouncyball. Which, last time I checked, was far inferior to the game of baseball.
The NBA has been nothing but a slam-dunk contest for years anyway.
UMDBHIK - July 11, 2010
Good call.
That’s why this year’s NBA champions dunked exactly 5% of the time, right?
MichaelProcton - July 12, 2010
Wanna bet?
They’ll be fighting the Bucks, Bobcats, and Pistons for the 6-8 seeds next year.
MichaelProcton - July 12, 2010
LeBron didn’t have Phil Jackson as a coach either.
There is no way that you can say, “man for man” the Cavs were better than the Lakers..
Taking out Lebron and Kobe..
Fisher vs Mo Williams: This might be the only thing that maybe close. Fisher may not be able to take over a game like Mo, but he is more consistent and more of a track record of hitting key shots.
Artest for Parker: Artest has long been known has one of the best one on one defenders in the league. He doesn’t hit many shots, but neither does parker. Parker sucks, end of story.
Gasol vs Jamison: Gasol is one of the best post player in the NBA, offensively and defensively. Jamison can knock down some shots, but can’t really create like he once could. And he never really has played defense.
Bynum vs Varejao This really isn’t close. Sure Varejao is a good defender, but Bynum is just as good, a better shot blocker and can actually score in the post.
Odom vs Shaq: As the sixth man, there is not really a contest here. Shaq is well past his prime. Odom is one of the most versatile players in the NBA.
dkinser86 - July 11, 2010
Definitely right.
Shaq and ilgauskas could totes run circles around Gasol and Odom, huh? I mean, man-for-man.
By the way, Kobe quit on his team in the Finals, too. His teammates were just good enough to pick him up in his shitty game seven, unike Lebron’s.
MichaelProcton - July 12, 2010
Funny, there is nowhere on the internet where you can find EITHER of those comments attributed to James.
MichaelProcton - July 12, 2010
Those "legends" never did it with as shitty a team as LeBron had.
The team he took to the Finals wasn’t even close to any of their championship teams.
MichaelProcton - July 12, 2010
Maybe they should have, you know, built a TEAM?
Green Bay didn’t shut down when Brett Favre moved on. Neither did Denver when Elway rode off into the sunset.
MichaelProcton - July 10, 2010
actually Denver really sucked after Elway lost…the packers didnt but thats becuase the Packers are effin awesome
Swo12bv - July 10, 2010
I wasn't talking about the team.
I was talking about the fanbases.
MichaelProcton - July 12, 2010
watch it
thats where i go to school
awix - July 10, 2010
Where's that??
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
cleveland
case western
awix - July 10, 2010
Ah...no offense my friend
Just sayin
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
im just playin
i rag on cleveland 365 days a year. not only when it makes headlines
awix - July 10, 2010
haha
i have a feeling there was a weird feeling in town recently
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
watching their reaction the other night....
was just flat awful
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
they over reacted
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
Seriously.
When a professional athlete’s decision to go to a better city to be on a better team makes you riot, there are serious problems at work there.
MichaelProcton - July 10, 2010
they were looking for a savior from their many years of misfortune and they thought that a man from cleveland would cure them of their misery. the problem is that they didnt realize lebron is a yankees fan and a cowboys fan. he is a frontrunner, and thats what he is doing…but instead of a bandwagon fan, he became a bandwagon player
awix - July 10, 2010
Yeah, because the Heat have been winning championships left and right lately.
MichaelProcton - July 10, 2010
That state's got Ohio State and that's about it.
AuditDawg - July 10, 2010
Hey now!
Rep them Bobbies in Athens.
MichaelProcton - July 10, 2010
phillies announcer:
the braves won…so i guess that means the mets lost. so the phillies will be looking for a win…
awix - July 10, 2010
i heard it
so stupid some people
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
Somebody give that announcer the Nobel Prize….he’s a genius.
romone_braves91 - July 10, 2010
anyone ccan get a Nobel prize
if Obama can get one..im not saying that cause im a racist/southerner either im from the North, the gy is an idiot, but i enough politics for me now
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
Obama got the Nobel “Peace” Prize not the other one. There are different.
romone_braves91 - July 10, 2010
news to me
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
Not really.
They’re all given out in any number of categories, and the selections are no less arbitrary in any of the others.
MichaelProcton - July 10, 2010
I’m just saying my joke was about how “smart” the announcer was. Nothing to do with his charitable work.
romone_braves91 - July 10, 2010
Then what was the point of your previous statement?
MichaelProcton - July 10, 2010
No politics, please.
Jacob Peterson - July 10, 2010
+10000
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
i know
i just threw it out there, i totally agree, my bad
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
its better to be blatantly racist than bring up politics…blantant racism is ignored…politics always sparks a debate/argument/appearance by Justin
Swo12bv - July 10, 2010
Dumb ass
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
if the mets would have won...
phillies would have been happy with a loss
awix - July 10, 2010
This logic both confuses and entrances me.
UMDBHIK - July 10, 2010
NICE catch Joey!
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
wow nice catch there
Jtpdolphins2009 - July 10, 2010
Wow
That was a heck of a play by Votto.
AuditDawg - July 10, 2010
+1
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
pshhh
omar infante makes that play barehanded with his pinky… votto’s no all-star like omar
atl192485 - July 10, 2010
He is, now.
Jacob Peterson - July 10, 2010
yea, i know
i guess that joke is old now
atl192485 - July 10, 2010
true dat
but omar got in with the manager showing he doesnt need a huge fan base
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
He just needs a bizarre interpretation of a new rule.
MichaelProcton - July 10, 2010
Pffft...Lidge in...we're good...
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
Case in point...
Leadoff double…
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
psh
our outfield collision > your outfield collision
atl192485 - July 10, 2010
LMAO this
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
LMAO
Jtpdolphins2009 - July 10, 2010
Let this be a harbinger of luck for Cincy
Baby, if you’ve ever wondered,
Wondered whatever became of me,
I’m living on the air in Cincinnati,
Cincinnati, WKRP.
Got kind of tired packing and unpacking,
Town to town and up and down the dial
Maybe you and me were never meant to be,
But baby think of me once in awhile.
I’m at WKRP in Cincinnati
UMDBHIK - July 10, 2010
And Lidge is the achilles hill
so what else is new?
romone_braves91 - July 10, 2010
*heel. I have too much baseball on the mind.
romone_braves91 - July 10, 2010
That'd be a sweet name for a pitcher, though.
Achilles Hill.
Jacob Peterson - July 10, 2010
“and Jeff Francoeur strikes out swinging again, proving that his achilles heel is, indeed, Achilles Hill”
atl192485 - July 10, 2010
or grounds out on the first pitch
kbertling353 - July 10, 2010
you mean Esco or Frenchy?
Sometimes I get confused.
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
Esco actually has a pretty high BB%
but yea, he does hit a ton of grounders…
kbertling353 - July 10, 2010
speaking of names...
the worst name for a pitcher. Grant Balfour (ball-four)
awix - July 10, 2010
Homer Bailey
kbertling353 - July 10, 2010
Bob Walk
Jacob Peterson - July 10, 2010
Dan Kolb, Bob Wickman, or John Rocker.
Doesn’t matter which one you pick b/c you will win.
romone_braves91 - July 10, 2010
john rocker
was pretty good for us, he dissolved after
15ks - July 10, 2010
Because the team turned its back on him after he made a series of coments that were ENTIRELY true.
MichaelProcton - July 10, 2010
I really don’t think his xenophobic and homophobic viewpoints are something that should be defended or even agreed with. He hates that New York City is a melting pot. Well, tough nuggets, Rocker-everyone we consider American today traces their roots back to somewhere else, and a significant percentage of those came through New York City.
The man is an asshole.
Bronn - July 10, 2010
+1
Sam Jethroe - July 11, 2010
An asshole who was exactly right in what he said.
MichaelProcton - July 12, 2010
lidge oscillates between unhittable and terrible from season to season
i don’t understand
kbertling353 - July 10, 2010
The problem's not physical...
MichaelProcton - July 10, 2010
the problem stems from a reoccuring nightmare where Albert Pujols hits a slider through a stadium and into another adjacent town
Swo12bv - July 10, 2010
wow almost fell for the fake the third throw to first….kinda like chipper did
bpk228480 - July 10, 2010
The Reds must really hate us
Jtpdolphins2009 - July 10, 2010
still pissed at Brooks Conrad
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
Lidge almost throws away the first intentional pitch
bpk228480 - July 10, 2010
Seriously
How good is Halladay? Your pitcher throws 8 innings of perfect baseball and 9 innings of shutout baseball, yet you still haven’t won the game. That’s just not fair.
AuditDawg - July 10, 2010
I completely agree. Let’s ban Roy from baseball.
romone_braves91 - July 10, 2010
nah, he’ll just sign with the Heat. Everyone is now.
MBL1 - July 10, 2010 via mobile
Hahaha
He’d be a great 6th man for them.
Jacob Peterson - July 10, 2010
CC has a wetball
From Chris Broussard
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
I honestly feel like i have a legitimate shot at backup point gaurd for the Heat ( i already live in FL)
Swo12bv - July 10, 2010
Jon Scheyer.
MichaelProcton - July 12, 2010
Did he seriously just bunt with the bases loaded and 2 outs??
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
haha
phils weren’t expecting it, and why would they
atl192485 - July 10, 2010
Not that this is topic-related, but......
The Braves will have 33 road games left this season after tomorrow versus 41 at home.
The future’s so bright…..we gotta wear shades!
UMDBHIK - July 10, 2010
Given our home record...
I like those splits.
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
Me also.
UMDBHIK - July 10, 2010
Walking Laynce Nix to get to Brandon Phillips?????
kbertling353 - July 10, 2010
Isn't Phillips an All-Star?
AuditDawg - July 10, 2010
yea but
omar would’ve hit a grand slam there off lidge
atl192485 - July 10, 2010
this
romone_braves91 - July 10, 2010
Sets up the forces.
MichaelProcton - July 10, 2010
anyone see Brandon Phillips flip on MLBN? awesome i love when i hear bmac flip out
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
you suck phillips
bpk228480 - July 10, 2010
geez
Reds are epic fail
Can we just not include the NL Central in this years playoffs? The Whole division sucks
Jtpdolphins2009 - July 10, 2010
The Cards are pretty good.
Though you might be right that there’s no team in the top 4 in the NL in that division.
Jacob Peterson - July 10, 2010
NL east - NL west throwdown
i like it
atl192485 - July 10, 2010
I still can’t believe Seattle handed Texas the division by giving up Lee. It that not a crime somewhere. Can you imagine Florida giving up Josh Johnson to the Phils.
romone_braves91 - July 10, 2010
No but...
He’d look pretty good in a Braves uni.
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
I agree.
romone_braves91 - July 10, 2010
Yes
I’ll buy some of that.
Sam Jethroe - July 11, 2010
I think Wright would look good in a Braves uni
once Chip retires of course…he just seems like a guy that could be a Braves
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
I HATE david wright. I have no idea why, there’s just something about him i don’t like
MBL1 - July 10, 2010 via mobile
You don't need a reason
He plays for the Mets.
AuditDawg - July 10, 2010
You take the best deal.
The M’s aren’t going anywhere this year and Lee will leave Texas after the season. I fail to see where the harm is from a Mariners perspective.
Jacob Peterson - July 10, 2010
But that is supposed to be your “Rival”, why help them gain anything? They could win the World Series with that move. Sure M’s probably came out ahead but that just feels wrong to me.
romone_braves91 - July 10, 2010
The Mariners and Rangers are not rivals
and even if they were, who cares? You do what’s best for your team and don’t worry about the others.
Jacob Peterson - July 10, 2010
Lee is not gonna be Ranger for long
and they get a power hitting switch hitter 1st baseman
Maybe when Smoak becomes really good we can trade all our good prospect for him!
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
I guess I am just making it a bigger deal than it needs to be.
romone_braves91 - July 10, 2010
No...
But that’s because they have some hope of competing. The Ms most certainly do not.
MichaelProcton - July 10, 2010
whats the big deal its a rental the Mariners arent competing this year mine as well get a couple solid players…
its not even close to comparable to say giving up Johnson
Swo12bv - July 10, 2010
Easily the worst division in baseball
kbertling353 - July 10, 2010
There is more talk about the Phillies than the Braves on this thread. TALK ABOUT THE BRAVES!
i am ashamed of my fellow TCers.
MBL1 - July 10, 2010 via mobile
i suppose we could always talk about KK to the bullpen
kbertling353 - July 10, 2010
The Braves would have won this game already.
There, you happy?
Jacob Peterson - July 10, 2010
No. Only chocolate can make me happy.
MBL1 - July 10, 2010 via mobile
Well have some chocolate for crying out loud!
Jacob Peterson - July 10, 2010
hahahaha
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
/stuffs M&MS in mouth
MBL1 - July 10, 2010 via mobile
There. Now isn't that better?
Jacob Peterson - July 10, 2010
:) yum yum yum
MBL1 - July 10, 2010 via mobile
no
because the M&Ms are actually TYLENOL!
and MBL1 is actually A BOT!
WHAAAAT
atl192485 - July 10, 2010
You are so weird…..
MBL1 - July 10, 2010 via mobile
says the OTC-drug-addicted non-human BOT
atl192485 - July 10, 2010
They were really m&ms….
MBL1 - July 10, 2010 via mobile
i do not acknowledge internet bots
/ignore
atl192485 - July 10, 2010
I’ve been saying “boo-urns”.
UMDBHIK - July 10, 2010
lol
That is way off topic but awesome anyway.
Jacob Peterson - July 10, 2010
Gracias.
UMDBHIK - July 10, 2010
CHOCOLATE!?
CHOCOLAAAAAAAATE!
GeneParmesan - July 10, 2010
Pudding for everyone!!
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
Braves rock!!
Throws pizza into the room
Jtpdolphins2009 - July 10, 2010
we plated a good game
GO REDS!
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
CSNPhilly announcers:
VICTORNIO HAS A FOUR-GAME HIT STREAK! IT’S ON THE LINE HERE!
atl192485 - July 10, 2010
lol
yeah that’s the subplot we’ve all been tuning in for.
Jacob Peterson - July 10, 2010
man
this philly announcer is awesome
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
which one? TMac? Wheels? Sarge?
bpk228480 - July 10, 2010
Chief? McCloud?
GeneParmesan - July 10, 2010
They all suck to me
bpk228480 - July 10, 2010
I thought I was the only one who remembered that.
Sam Jethroe - July 11, 2010
Went to BWW tonight, and pussied out on the wing sauce. Had a bit of HB, so went with the mild.
Was pretty good, and the best thing? The ginormous can of Fosters I drank with it. Yum yum.
UMDBHIK - July 10, 2010
BWW hot sauce is a scorcher
…and +1 on the tall Fosters
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
BWW is awesome!
I got one right next to the movie theater, so go to the movies the Wild Wings…im a big fan of their Teryaki
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
ever tried the wing challege?
its like eat the 12 hottest wings in 6 minutes or less
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
tried once...
failed miserably
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
haha
i cant do it but my brother did it in 3 minutes… the day after he was on the toilet, for legit at least 3 hours
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
he probably could strip the varnish off a foot locker after eating those wings
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
+1
for carlin reference
atl192485 - July 10, 2010
haha...i was wondering who'd get that
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
I def. want to try it…but they haven’t built the one in Atlantic City yet for me to go
bpk228480 - July 10, 2010
There’s a way to do it and win every time. Strip the wings of all the meat and load the whole gob into your mouth then swallow. Drink a lot of pop to put out the resulting fire.
UMDBHIK - July 10, 2010
especially the pop part
hahaha man i wish i had your great advice haha
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
you mean volcanic eruption?
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
Mango Jalapeno is the way to go.
MichaelProcton - July 10, 2010
man, cliff lee is getting rocked (by his standards)
looks like he (pause+sunglasses)
can’t take the heat
atl192485 - July 10, 2010
david caruso? is that you?
bpk228480 - July 10, 2010
hey! f*** you!
atl192485 - July 10, 2010
nice.
Jacob Peterson - July 10, 2010
/begins playing “Won’t Get Fooled Again”
MBL1 - July 10, 2010 via mobile
yeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
GeneParmesan - July 10, 2010
I loved when they made fun of him on Burn Notice. I’ve never watched an episode of CSI Miami and I knew exactly what they were doing.
“Looks like our killers’ plan (sunglasses) is coming apart at the seams…”
Bronn - July 10, 2010
PLus +1 for Burn Notice refrence..underrated show
Swo12bv - July 10, 2010
Bruce Campbell is so underrated.
Bronn - July 10, 2010
Halladay gets that call every game…stop crying
bpk228480 - July 10, 2010
This is probably the most comments in a recap for TC.
Joseph_C - July 10, 2010
And to make up for the weirdness and Phillies talk….
BRAVES BRAVES BRAVES BRAVES BRAVES BRAVES BRAVES BRAVES
MBL1 - July 10, 2010 via mobile
What's funny about the huge number of comments....
People who didn’t watch the game but come on here to read recaps are going to think something awful happened during the game to merit this much responses.
romone_braves91 - July 10, 2010
Thunderdome!!!!
bpk228480 - July 10, 2010
There needs to be another thunderdome soon so some people can get out their resentment.
It worked well last time. Well that, and thunderdome happened at the end of the 9 game losing streak so things only went up from their.
DogDaysofSummer - July 10, 2010
I’m going to go out on a limb and say Thunderdome brought an end to the losing streak
bpk228480 - July 10, 2010
cookies and milk time!!
who wants some?
Jtpdolphins2009 - July 10, 2010
this post has officially gone to hell...LOL
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
Oreos?
MBL1 - July 10, 2010 via mobile
I have oreos, and keebler chocolate chip or peanut butter cups
Jtpdolphins2009 - July 10, 2010
you can have the oreos if you want
Jtpdolphins2009 - July 10, 2010
we keep playing baseball
Jtpdolphins2009 - July 10, 2010
So Miguel Cabrera plays short stop for the reds now
bpk228480 - July 10, 2010
lol
i heard that too, and thought i was going deaf. nice to know i’m not
atl192485 - July 10, 2010
Chris Tillman no hitter thru 6
kbertling353 - July 10, 2010
WOW!
this is a great day for baseball, we got another potential no-no and a fantastic phillies-reds game and obviousy a BRAVOS WIN!!!
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
not to mention my fantasy baseball dominance..
Oh wait…that’s just me.
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
im not a fan of fantasy baseball
but when fantasy football comes around, i love it and will always have 1-2 money leagues which make it even better
we should potentially do a TC fantasy Football league
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
i'd absolutely be in
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
solid
i think it’d be easy enough to get 8 more guys in it as well
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
Harder for the non-diehards to keep up with daily linups.
MichaelProcton - July 10, 2010
Damn, Wood is already in the back burner. Truly the year of the pitcher.
romone_braves91 - July 10, 2010
it truly is Beauty and the Beast...
I might add a handsome Beast at that.
GeneParmesan - July 10, 2010
What is Anchorman quotes?
Swo12bv - July 10, 2010
Not really the year of the pitcher
League-wide scoring is down like .15 runs. Instead of 4.62 runs per game, it’s 4.47. In 1992, league-wide scoring was 4.12 runs per game.
The real year of the pitcher was 1968, when run scoring was down to a paltry 3.4 runs per game. 7 different starters had ERAs under 2 that year.
Bronn - July 10, 2010
no kidding, eh?
atl192485 - July 10, 2010
c'mon reds
if nate mclouth can take contreras deep, well…. you know what to do
atl192485 - July 10, 2010
immediately go on a 9 game losing streak?
bpk228480 - July 10, 2010
I would rather that happen starting Thursday.
UMDBHIK - July 10, 2010
chris tillman no-hitter over
kbertling353 - July 10, 2010
This Philly game is going to go on forever
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
I’d be supportive of that.
UMDBHIK - July 10, 2010
*Fast forward into the future*
It is still scoreless in the top of the 19th inning, Braves fans have eaten all the dang cookies and have been punchy for hours
And in other news LeBron James just took a piss, details after the game
Jtpdolphins2009 - July 10, 2010
Random Question about the Reds
Where the hell is Adrolis (sp?) Chapman?
romone_braves91 - July 10, 2010
AAA
i think he recently hit 103, but idk if it relieble because my friend told me
bflobraves - July 10, 2010
That was on a fast gun.
He can hit 100 for real though.
As for where he is, he’s in AAA and they’ve switched him to relief for now. He’s walking a TON of guys.
Jacob Peterson - July 10, 2010
He recently started transitioning to the bullpen in AAA.
He’ll probably be up as a reliever pretty soon after the break.
MichaelProcton - July 10, 2010
Another really questionable decision with a starting prospect
The kid has really raw secondary stuff but a live fastball. He needs to develop his secondary pitchers, but he’s being converted to where he’ll rely more on his fastball so the Reds can boost their playoff run. Given some development, he’d have the chance to become a really good starter.
I might understand if the Reds had real problems in the bullpen and needed someone to step in and take over the 8th or 9th inning, but they haven’t been that bad. Cordero hasn’t been great, but he’s firmly entrenched as their closer unless he completely blows up. They’ve also got Arthur Rhodes back there, and a few other decent arms. I think this is a bad move for the Reds, who might be able to ride their young talent for several years if they can improve their pitching a bit. Chapman’s potential value as a starter could really become important in 2-3 years for them, so slowing his development to make one playoff run is a bit questionable.
Bronn - July 10, 2010
if this is their plan then its ok…
old school way of breaking in a pitcher…using him as a reliever for half a season than he starts all next year (like what the Rays did with Price)
Swo12bv - July 10, 2010
Yes, but the old-school method was to take guys who were almost ready to become big league plaeyrs and let them get their first taste of MLB out of the bullpen. What they’re doing here is taking a guy who has a plus fastball and little else because he’s raw and undeveloped, and forcing him to rely more on his fastball to get hitters out. It slows down his development, and for this team….I can’t agree with it. The Reds are pretty young with a solid core, and can be competitive for several years with improved starting pitching. Slowing the development of your top starting prospect is a questionable move.
Bronn - July 10, 2010
He's got tons of crap to work on now.
He needs to be in the minors. If they bring him up this year, they’re asking for trouble.
Jacob Peterson - July 10, 2010
Braves with Medlen?
MichaelProcton - July 12, 2010
We had a similar discussion at RR
I was initially against moving Chapman, but I have moved.
Our bullpen has struggled this year, outside of Rhodes there really isn’t a dependable arm down there, Masset, and Orunsderk have shown signs lately, Bray had TJS last year and is just back from it, Owings is a long man with limited stuff and control issues (an awful combination), Smith is fresh up from AA, and Coco has a WHIP of 1.55. A 100 MPH fastball might help.
Plus how to develop a kid is a crap shot. There can be an argument made that it is better for him to stay in AAA and work on his secondary pitches and pitch efficiency every 5th day. Yet another argument can be made that his pure stuff is just too good for AAA, and the only way he will learn how to pitch is against big leaguers who won’t all be over matched by a 100 MPH fastball.
Plus he will only lose two months of minor league development. The Reds need bullpen help and a lefty who throws 100 MPH can go a long way.
justin007000 - July 11, 2010
There's definitely two sides to it
But in most cases, I’m going to fall on the side of leaving prospects down. Even if, as you say, his fastball is too dominating for AAA hitters, you can always give him instructions to avoid throwing it, even if he gets in trouble. The ultimate goal for any minor league team is not to win games, but to develop talent, so if he gets knocked out while avoiding his fastball, it’s not a big deal. While on the big league club, though, it’s not about developing, but only results, and a typical relief pitcher will throw fastballs 80% of the time, and won’t use more than two pitches.
If he wants to succeed as a starter, he’ll need more than just two pitches, but it’s tough for relief pitchers, who get limited opportunities to work, to keep a third pitch sharp. Relief pitchers don’t know when they’re going to be needed in games, so they don’t get the same kind of work between outings that starters do with actual intensive throwing sessions. They can’t put too much strain on their arms on any given day in case they’re needed to throw later that night. It’s not the same as actual in-game work.
I don’t think the Reds’ bullpen situation is that bad. They’re set in the 9th inning with a decent closer, and Arthur Rhodes has been dominant. Nick Masset is better than his results would indicate-he’s a strike out machine most nights, but he’s getting killed on things like BABIP and HR/FB% which are generally beyond a pitcher’s control. Herrerra is an average, unremarkable LOOGY. It doesn’t take much else to put together a solid bullpen.
The Reds are young enough and talented enough that they’ll have more opportunities to make the playoffs, and ultimately, a couple of months’ extra development for Chapman now could pay big dividends in 2012. It would be much better not to get his arbitration clock started until he’s ready to be a starter. It’s similar to what the Mets did with Mejia this year-he wasn’t that valuable in the bullpen, but they started his arbitration clock so he could get less than 30 innings of unexceptional bullpen work in the big leagues, when he has the potential to be a really solid starter in two seasons.
About the only time I agree with the decision is in the case of the Rays with David Price. They had all kinds of bullpen issues, and couldn’t keep anyone healthy once he’d been named the closer, and they had a legitimate playoff team that just needed someone at the back end to get three outs. They just didn’t have that, and Price was really close to being ready to break into the rotation anyway. They waited until really late in the year to call him up, and didn’t waste time converting him to a reliever at AAA, just had him continue starting all year until he reached the big leagues. He had a great playoff run with them, and was ready to be a member of the rotation the next season.
Bronn - July 11, 2010
That...
Is a long post.
SuperNewb - July 11, 2010
I have strong opinions.
Bronn - July 11, 2010
I see your point
But Cordero is lucky, not solid.
He has a WHIP of 1.55, his K/9 has fallen in each of the last 3 seasons, while his BB/9 has risen to 4.87/9.
Cordero is old and perhaps he is falling of the cliff, and I honestly wouldn’t be shocked if he blows up before the season is over.
I think the Reds could use another big time power arm in the ’pen.
justin007000 - July 11, 2010
we also had another young hard throwing pitchers whose pure stuff dominated the Minors
It took big league failure for Homer Bailey to really figure out that he needed more than a 12-6 curve ball and a 96 MPH fastball to last in the Big Leagues.
He finally put together a good string of starts over the course of the final 6 weeks last year, and he was putting it together in his final 3 or 4 starts before hitting the DL this year.
Also Chapman can go back to the AAA rotation next season if he needs to. He is on a big league contract so his option for 2010 was burned after he was demoted in March. So this won’t really change his option status.
justin007000 - July 11, 2010
But they also sent Mejia back down.
He would have been up at some point this year, regardless of his role.
MichaelProcton - July 12, 2010
If Cincy weren’t in playoff contention, I’d agree with you. However, do you really want a flamethrower with control problems in your major league bullpen, or do you want him to work those issues out in Louisville while your big league club has been performing fine without him?
UMDBHIK - July 11, 2010
k boys...i'm out
DolphinNation - July 10, 2010
last call for cookies and milk
Jtpdolphins2009 - July 10, 2010
lame
Reds are an epic fail
Jtpdolphins2009 - July 10, 2010
Seriously
Go to hell Philly. That is all.
AuditDawg - July 10, 2010
O fuck do I really need to see the phillies walkoff highlights all day tomorrow
bpk228480 - July 10, 2010
It's okay
We’ll drown them out with our own highlights of a Mets sweep.
AuditDawg - July 10, 2010
I was hoping Rollins would get blinded by a shaving cream pie
bpk228480 - July 10, 2010
just pathetic
how many walk-off losses do the reds have now? damn.
atl192485 - July 10, 2010
they’ve played 13 extra inning games already
bpk228480 - July 10, 2010
7-6
bpk228480 - July 10, 2010
Man JRoll isn’t even that good. c’mon now
Zeus12888 - July 10, 2010
Damn
I was really hoping for Travis Wood to throw a perfect game against them. This was his THIRD start. How awesome would that have been. His damn team couldn’t have gotten him 1 one what a shame
asset - July 10, 2010
*run
asset - July 10, 2010
BBTN highlighting Infante
bpk228480 - July 10, 2010
that was pretty sweet
Bravely going forward - July 10, 2010
what all did they highlight?
Zeus12888 - July 10, 2010
Just his versatility, how he’s a player you need on your team to win yada yada yada…about a 3 minute segment just on him after our highlights
bpk228480 - July 10, 2010
Another series win. Wow, this is great.
Braves24 - July 10, 2010
I thuroughly enjoyed this Reds/Phillies GameThread
Let’s do it again tomorrow?
Scott Coleman - July 11, 2010 via mobile
you guys can join us at RR
we tend to accept outsiders. Little Lady stops by and we are friendly.
justin007000 - July 11, 2010
Oh, i already have 1 comment on your site!
Scott Coleman - July 11, 2010
I'll look at it this way...
The Phillies can have their three straight walk offs…
We have four straight wins and we’ve played well enough to not need extras to win them.
SuperNewb - July 11, 2010
Didn't we already have 3 straight walkoffs this year anyway?
Sheesh. They think they’re so hot.
Jacob Peterson - July 11, 2010
Hansel…he’s so hot right now. Hansel.
justincredubil02 - July 11, 2010
Also, we recently beat them 2-1, and they needed Roy Halladay just to get that one win.
Plus, they’re also in 3rd place.
UMDBHIK - July 11, 2010
Not by much, now
Just 0.5 game back of the Mutts.
Jacob Peterson - July 11, 2010
They will probably be in second after we beat the Mets later today
dkinser86 - July 11, 2010
I just realized.
We now have the best record in the NL by 2 games. That’s pretty damn cool. If the NL somehow wins the ASG, we have a good shot at locking up home field throughout the playoffs. Which I hope is something that will come in handy.
Jacob Peterson - July 11, 2010
Since there’s a chance… chance… a possibility (knock on wood and throw salt over my shoulder) we make the playoffs this may be the first year in awhile I actually watch the all star game.
SuperNewb - July 11, 2010
Particularly given our ridiculous home record.
MichaelProcton - July 12, 2010
why do we even bother playin
the Phillies are gonna win this division all they do is win and hit walk offs so that means they are champions sez ESPN
Erihury - July 11, 2010
I am loving this Braves team, but I would love it even more if I could actually watch a game. I haven’t seen the Braves play since the 2nd week of June!
justincredubil02 - July 11, 2010
I haven’t had this much fun watching the Braves since the lethal lineup in 2004.
Scott Coleman - July 11, 2010 via mobile
QTips quote from late april/early may
We is teh suxorz. No Whirled Sereez this yr.
I am so happy we are lots of games ahead in the east going into the break and those aforementioned days seem like years ago.
Qtips - July 11, 2010
You and Novia Scotia Steve are forgiven.
Scott Coleman - July 11, 2010
Whew, took me a while to get to the end of this one...
Dang Phils. But no worries – we did OUR business tonight as well.
Does my memory fail me, or did all of their games with CIN go into extra innings?
.
NCChopper - July 11, 2010
Sure did.
justincredubil02 - July 11, 2010
And all should have been won by Cincy. Stupid Reds.
justincredubil02 - July 11, 2010
In the land of crazyball...
the three-bunt man is king.
Biggus Rickus - July 11, 2010
I thought they were a serious power in the NL
After this series, in which they lost in nearly every concievable way, I’m not so sure. They can be fierce but they can also fold up like an origami swan.
Sam Jethroe - July 11, 2010
Check 1, check 2, check 3 please?
that’d be a nice way to end the first half (check 3 being the sweep box).
Mr. Sanchez - July 11, 2010
+1
Jacob Peterson - July 11, 2010
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