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Braves vs. Nationals Series Preview: Natinal Treasure

If you have heard or read a story about the Nationals in the last month, it has almost certainly pertained to Stephen Strasburg in some way. And with good reason, too--his first four starts have been legitimately spectacular. If you have not been following the Nationals closely, you might remember their good start to the season and think, "Hey, with that Strasburg kid pitching every 5 days, this Nats team has got a real shot to make the playoffs!"

Yeah... Not so much.

As it turns out, the Nationals have returned to their "Natinals" form in June, going 7-17 so far this month. That record is somehow even worse than it appears, because the Nats have had an extremely easy schedule this month. They've played series against each of the four worst teams in baseball (Orioles, Pirates, Astros, and Indians), plus a series against the bad-but-not-woeful Royals. Their combined record in those 5 series? 6-9.

The Nats have played just 3 good teams this month and have gone 1-8 in those series. They lost 2/3 to the Reds and were swept by both the White Sox and Tigers.

The capstone on the Nationals' horrible month occurred this past weekend, in which they blew leads of 6-0, 5-0, and 3-0 to lose 7-6, 6-5, and 4-3... to the ORIOLES, the team with the worst record in baseball. That is just astonishing. I wonder how Nats fans managed to survive that series? Maybe they just mimicked the national media and pretended that the Nationals don't exist unless Strasburg is pitching.

Which brings us to...

Star-divide

Pitching Matchups

Monday, 7:00 P.M. ET-- Tim Hudson (7-3, 2.54 ERA, 4.48 FIP) vs. Stephen Strasburg (2-1, 1.78 ERA, 1.51 FIP)

This matchup of aces will be one to watch. It's particularly fascinating because of the contrasting styles of the two pitchers. Huddy has had great success this season thanks largely to his phenomenal 67.1% ground ball rate. To put that in perspective, only one other qualified pitcher (Cleveland's Justin Masterson) is even above 60%. Though Hudson's other peripherals are not particularly impressive, he has been amazingly consistent. Hudson's last start (in which he gave up 4 ER in 7 IP) was his first all year in which he allowed more than 3 ER. Don't be surprised if Huddy continues to outperform his FIP by 1.5 to 2 runs for the rest of the year.

As for Strasburg, well, what is there to say that hasn't already been said? He's been amazing: 41 K versus only 5 BB in 25.1 IP. Even more impressive is that all 5 of the walks came during his start in Cleveland, where the mound was in a horrible condition. Aside from that, he's walked nobody in 20 IP. He really hasn't shown any signs of weakness thus far, though of course he will have a bad start or two eventually. Let's hope his first bad start comes tonight.

The Braves will likely be without Jason Heyward in this matchup due to his sore thumb, which is too bad. Don't worry, though. I'm sure they'll face each other dozens of times in the next 5 years.

One positive note: the Nationals have actually lost Strasburg's last 2 starts (though he gave up only 1 run in each). With Huddy on the mound, you have to think that we've got a good chance at beating the Nats even if Strasburg shuts us down for 6 or 7 innings.

Tuesday, 7:00 P.M. ET-- Derek Lowe (9-5, 4.42 ERA, 4.25 FIP) vs. Craig Stammen (1-2, 5.43 ERA, 4.49 FIP)

Lowe is coming off of his best start of the year, in which he threw 7 shutout innings against the White Sox. Unfortunately, the Braves could not reward him. They scored 0 runs and lost 2-0 when Takashi Saito gave up a 2-run homer to Paul Konerko.

As for the Nationals, they only have 4 starting pitchers listed on their 40-man roster, and none of them will be pitching in this game (unless they choose to have someone pitch on 3 days' rest). The Nats have been operating without a 5th starter since they sent John Lannan to the minors with a case of regressionitis.  EDIT: As I had guessed, it will indeed be Stammen. The 26-year-old righty is nothing special, but he's a decent fill-in guy. It's funny that he's been in the minors for the last 3 weeks, because in his last start (on June 6th), he gave up just 1 run on 7 hits in 6.2 IP to the fierce Reds' lineup. I guess that seemed less impressive because of all the Strasburg hype?

Wednesday, 7:00 P.M. ET-- Jair Jurrjens (0-3, 6.38 ERA, 5.01 FIP) vs. J.D. Martin (0-3, 3.03 ERA, 4.28 FIP)

EDIT: The Braves finally decided to go with Jurrjens over Medlen. While they have not yet announced who is going to the bullpen, I'm guessing it will be Medlen and not Kawakami. I sure hope JJ can pitch better than he has in the minors (or majors) this year. I'm really nervous that we're pushing him back too quickly for no good reason.

As for Martin, he's actually pitched pretty well despite his record. Perhaps most impressive is that he's walked only 2 men in 29.2 IP. In Martin's last start, he gave up 3 runs (none of them earned) in 4.1 IP against the Orioles. The Nationals are 0-5 in Martin's starts so far this year, so hopefully that trend can continue on Wednesday.

Stat of the Series

Strasburg has earned 1.2 WAR in his 4 starts, which is impressive. No other Nats pitcher has more than 1.0 WAR, which is not so impressive.

No wonder they have fallen from playoff contention. Whenever Livan Hernandez is your 2nd-best starter, you're in trouble. (Though in fairness to the Nats, they have a decent rotation on the DL: Jordan Zimmermann, Scott Olsen, Chien-Ming Wang, Jason Marquis, and Garrett Mock.)

Question Zen Koan of the Series

If the Nationals fall in the NL East, and Stephen Strasburg is not pitching, do they make a sound?

No analysis on this one. The answer can be found only through meditation and complete avoidance of ESPN.

Poll
How many runs will the Braves score off of Strasburg?
0
39 votes
1
47 votes
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127 votes
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121 votes
4+
176 votes

510 votes | Poll has closed

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Comments

Braves will crush Strasburg like the Russian did Apollo on Rocky 4!
Strasburg full prediction

The Starsburg T0ur 2010 makes its stop in ATL tonight, here’s what should happen:

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That ND seems to imply that Tim Hudson is going to give up more than 3 runs to the Nationals in 5 innings. I disagree.

Unearned?

An even more disagreeable prediction.

I didn’t see the indians pitcher bitching about the mound-just the overhyped pouting toolbag with the nats jersey on.

I sense potent amount of anger here...

I’m just pissed off at everyone calling this kid a hall of famer. In his one mediocre start, he had to come up with an excuse that clearly didn’t bother any of the other guys that pitched in the same game on the same mound. You gain respect in this game by manning up and going about your business (stuff like hustling down to first on a ground ball), not by whining that it was the field’s fault you sucked.

And by mediocre start you mean...

5.1 Innings, 1ER

I mean 5.1 innings, 5 walks

thought he only had 5 so far

all in one game

Maybe being able to do things nobody else can do means he has different requirements for the mound.

Cut the 21-yo some slack. Unless he gets hurt, he has hall of fame talent.

Also, pitchers who hustle to first pull hamstrings. Bobby is always yelling at Timmy to pull up, and I trust Bobby.

Nats fan passing through...

…Strasburg shouldn’t be called a Hall of Famer at this point. The Strasburg rookie phenomenom is HOF worthy, but Mark Fidyrich had his buzz and Fernandomania had its buzz and Mark Prior had his buzz. You take things start by start as always.

As far as the mound issue, if you look at the start you’ll see that he almost got injured at the end of the game slipping on the mound. I sense that he is somewhat affected by mound issues potentially, shared that he was bothered by it after the game, but also took responsibility for not being able to adjust his game to the conditions.

Visting team groundskeeper’s will note the issue he had and he would be wise to just focus on his job in his next couple visiting starts.

a guy has hall of fame talent after he has played at a very high level for a very long period of time.

Strasburg has incredible stuff, good control, plus-plus whatever, but the term “hall of fame talent” is downright objectionable after less than a month in the major leagues. He hasn’t accomplished anything yet, other than a strikeout record for the first 5 games of a major league career.

For all of the times than a hot prospect has been called a potential hall of famer that have actually succeeded, there have been ten others that have fallen by the wayside.

From what I see, the kid is incredible. His pitches break like there’s a giant fan just above the camera’s view that’s pushing them out of the zone. But hall of famer? Ask me again in 10 years.

So forget the others where he's had...

double digit Ks and 0 walks?

right

cuz heyward hasn’t been called a hall of famer before

I predict that a McCann solo shot is the only run we get off Strasburg, but we work his pitch count, and then massacre the bullpen and win 7-2

Please let’s work some counts tonight. Would like to get to the pen as easrly as possible.

Doesnt Strasburgh have a pitch count

that is a pretty rigid one

Thankfully yes.

I heard a nats official on the radio a few weeks ago say it would be 6 innings or 100 pitches, whichever came first. Needless to say, he pitched 7 innings in his big league debut.

I would like to see him get rocked, but

I will settle for scoring 2-4 runs off him.

I agree

I live in DC and have seen him pitch twice already… I’m reminded of what Boobie Miles said in Friday Night Lights…

Reporter: Should we believe the hype?
Boobie Miles: What hype?
Reporter: The hype about Boobie Miles.
Boobie Miles: Now hype is something that’s not for real. I’m all real.

Trust me, he’s all real.

+1

I wish I could convert you to the Nats cause, but I dig your teams on the list. You appear to have wisely avoided the ’Skins flu that makes me sick to my stomach when it comes to the NFL. There are many Braves fans in DC and points south that should make for a good rivalry if the Nats can add more pieces besides Strasburg.

and if the nats get some fans. I’ve been to 3 or 4 games there over the past few years and I pretty much have my choice of seat.

haha, it’s all because of TBS… and for me Greg Maddux

I'm actually pretty worried...

we havent hit well lateley

We'll turn it around tonight!
Troy Glaus takes strasburg deep tonite.
as he trots to first..

“GET OFF ME BALL!”

Let's not Forget

The Braves have a hard enough time beating the Nationals when they don’t have a stud pitcher on the mound.

Lets hope that our guys go up there agressive, look for those fastballs, and put men on base. Keep Strasbourg out of a groove.

aggressive never works for the braves. Every time the braves get dominated by a pitcher, the post game interviews sound something like this. “We went up there swinging early in the count, trying not to let him get ahead of us. Unfortunately tonight, he was on all night”

That just means that they jumped on the first pitch, grounded it to the shortstop, and the starter threw a complete game. The reason that the braves offense is so good this year is because they’re patient for once.

LINEUP!

Playdough
CAB
Chippa
Heap
Glausosaurus
Hen
Pablo
G.White
Hud

nationals
morgan
pudge
zim
dunn
willingham
bernadina
desmond
gonzalez
stras

Man I am falling behind on some of these nicknames...
Kinda hard to keep up ...

so don’t feel too bad.

Don't feel bad,

I am too and I’m in most every OT :)

I’ve been at OT fail this year.

I'm pretty sure their originals of their own and not group names...

Hen? Pablo? Who? And I’ve never heard Prado as Playdough either.

Do one with all of Bobby’s nicknames.

lol sorry..

i just kinda did some quick improv.

Good to hear

I was beginning to worry about dementia :)

lol..my internet humor and sarcasm=FAIL
Pablo...

Escobar

can someone translate this for me?

prado,cabrera,chipper,mccann,glaus,hinske,escobar,blanco,hudson

only one i couldnt get

was CAB thought he was MVP

he is..but for some reason he reminds me

of this cab ride i took in chicago one time..so i went with that.

that and i wouldn't think

cab out of cabrera would be that hard..was expecting more people to say..pablo?? or Hen???

for some reason i was trying to make

it brooks conrad. though i miss some easy ones like FUGA ;)

Damn..i'll never post a lineup again.

INTERNET HUMOR MAJOR FAIL.

Next person who says shananagans is getting pistol whipped
hey strasburg whats that place you like to eat at with all the goofy shi+ on the walls?
what...you mean shananigans??
ooooooohhhhhhhhh!!!
haha such a good movie
i was serious..someone needs to pistol whip strasburg tonite..

or can we hire that guy that took out nancy kerrigan?

hopefully we can get into deep counts with strasburg

with his pitch count being monitored so closely, maybe we can get him to 90 pitches through 5 innings or so and get him out of the game.

This should make some people happy in a way..

Former Astro Chris Burke is considering retirement, according to Michael Grant of the Louisville Courier-Journal. The Reds’ Triple A club cut the 30-year-old over the weekend.

I have a few concerns

In past seasons we’ve had some problems playing down to the level of the team we are playing, Nats included.
We have also struggled some when seeing pitchers for the first time.
We also have several players playing banged up or on the bench healing.
I hate that Heyward’s thumb will not be healed until off season rest. We are going to miss his clutch hitting before the injury.
That said, I feel optimistic with Huddy on the mound, and our bench players have come up big for us when needed.
Go Braves! We can win this one!

so offseason rest..

thats not cool..

Not cool at all :(

Go get him, boys!

Hey, i’m at the Varsity. We stopped here before the game. I’ve seen about 20 JHey jerseys/shirts and tons of Braves gear. :)

i wish i was there......uggghhh work

I shall send you an internet burger

Nationals fan passing through.

I voted 2.
FWIW, your banned troll adamlawson, has been reincarnated as adamlawson8 and continues to embarass Braves fans at FB after his sterling work at Amazin’ Avenue.

The Nationals have FANS?!? GASP

link?

Eh...He got banned at FB anyways.
It's been announced according to Yahoo

Jurrjens will be the starter on Wednesday.

Don’t know what that means for Medlen or KK but that was announced.

I don't see that anywhere.

No news stories, and their “probables” still lists Medlen.

The only thing I see

is the same old story from 3 days ago that said he “may” return Wed. Nobody has made it official yet from any of the news sources I’ve seen, yahoo or otherwise.

time to prove Heyward is much better than strasburg and win 5-2

Because without Heyward in the lineup that would totally prove that…

Methinks you underestimate the psychic powers of J-Hey.

Heyward will somehow enter the body of Escobar and hit 12 home runs tonight.

I think the Braves will beat Strasburg 5-0

I’ll bet any of my internet friends $100 this happens!

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