Ken Rosenthal has about the best line of the day on the Marlins' firing of Fredi Gonzalez:
If there is any justice, the 2011 World Series will feature a showdown between Loria's two ex-managers - Gonzalez, who becomes a leading candidate to succeed Bobby Cox with the Braves, and Joe Girardi, who won last year's Series with the Yankees.
Maybe next year will be Fredi trying to make it two in a row for the Braves.
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Would love to have him. What is it with that team getting rid of good managers? With that kind of ineptness, how do they keep winning games?
MBraves! - June 23, 2010
Not sure, but if I’m a young coach and I wanna be a manager of a great team one day, I’m handing my resume in to the Marlins today.
Scott Coleman - June 23, 2010 via mobile
because managers aren't all that important
especially in comparison to roster construction. and the marlins sure as hell know how to draft
kbertling353 - June 23, 2010
Are you telling me
You wouldn’t care if Dusty Baker or AJ Hinch was our manager over Cox? They’ve got decent ball clubs that have suffered from managerial failure.
BigG1392 - June 23, 2010
Or Lou Piniella for Jebus' sake.
gramsey712 - June 23, 2010
there are very few managers whom I think have much of an impact on a team’s performance, but Baker is certainly one of them.
VivaLosBravos - June 23, 2010
Agree. I believe it is much easier to have a negative impact than a positive one. That being said, a good, knowledgable manager can certainly tweak a team and make moves that help.
Old Braves' Fan - June 23, 2010
What do you want them to do?
Wait until the off-season and let Fredi walk away? My guess is that now that Loria understands that his team is too young to make the playoffs, he figured he’d cut bait with Gonzalez now so that he wouldn’t have to endure the embarrassment of his manager leaving for an intradivisional rival in the off-season.
theatlfan - June 23, 2010
Loria is a douche. I doubt he understands that .He thought they should make the playoff last year for sure.
FitzFan - June 23, 2010
This
Loria is a dimwitted rich scumbag who happens to own a yeam as one of his playthings. A type we have far too many of in Baseball.
Sam Jethroe - June 23, 2010
Absolutely. Fredi barely hung on to his job after last season.
I would NEVER coach for a Loria owned ballclub. I’d sit unemployed first. Guy has no idea what he’s doing. Ted never did either, but he knew to let his baseball people do their thing without too much interference.
UMDBHIK - June 23, 2010
Chip says
he got fisted
VivaLosBravos - June 23, 2010
well played
hokie07 - June 23, 2010
I've said this before, but...
I really don’t want him here. I don’t have any confidence in his ability to either run a team (anybody who doesn’t think a manager is important in keeping the ship running smoothly has had the example of two decades of smooth sailing by the USS Bobby Cox go right past them) or to handle the game on the field.
Sam Jethroe - June 23, 2010
Why
exactly do you not have confidence in him running a team? Why do you not have confidence in him handling a game on the field. (Not to be offensive at all, but I really am wondering.)
frozendesert - June 23, 2010
Observation of his tenure in Miami.
He’s better than Girardi (who nearly ruined their staff when he was there) but he’s not as good as his inflated rep with most writers would lead you to believe.
Sam Jethroe - June 23, 2010
I have a question
What makes Gonzalez the front runner? From what little I’ve read about him he doesn’t seem to have made that big of an impact in the majors as a manager. It is obvious I don’t know, so if you guys would try to win me over, what would you say?
Any links to articles would be appreciated.
Thanks!
SunDolphin - June 23, 2010
You're kidding, right?
He’s had the Marlins in contention ever since he’s been there, in spite of their pitiful payroll.
MichaelProcton - June 23, 2010
I was only kidding
Sorry, but payroll is not indicative of talent. Florida certainly has the lowest payroll in baseball but they have talent everywhere. I hear and understand why people would think Fredi is deserving because he’s got them to a .500 record as skipper, but I would hope the Braves know a bit more about him. There are a lot of good coaches out there and I think any of them could have done the same thing in Florida.
That single factor isn’t enough for me, and I hope it’s not enough for Wren.
SunDolphin - June 24, 2010
Talent everywhere?
You do realize in the last four years he’s been forced to start:
Alfredo Amezaga
Byung-Hyun Kim (!!!)
Emilio Bonifacio
Sergio Mitre
Matt Treanor
Rick VandenHurk
Mark Hendrickson
Sean West
Mike Jacobs
That, my friend, is not “talent.”
MichaelProcton - June 25, 2010
Wellman plz.
TradeAndruw - June 23, 2010
yep
VivaLosBravos - June 23, 2010
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