Talking Chop

It was UltimaParadox…and yeah Don was talking about it on the radio!

MBL1 - June 17, 2010 via mobile reply

i had thought about doing it for the next game i went to, but glad he did it. Thats awesome.

UltimaParadox will be happy I’m sure he made the broadcast, even if it was radio.

Knowing he was going to be there, I looked for him and the sign all night, but never saw it.
Anyone else?

I looked also

but did not see him or the sign. I thought a camera man would have picked it up. I may have just missed it.

HEYJUDE - June 18, 2010 reply

Check out this gem from Amazing Avenue

How can atlanta be patient with glaus
but dfa kelly johnson, who is better than several players they’ll be starting soon.

.

LOL you can’t be serious! Oh mets fans

MBL1 - June 17, 2010 via mobile reply

joke's on them

they have jeff francoeur

atl192485 - June 17, 2010 reply

Indeed.

A truly cruel and hateful joke.

I’m confused. I’m not even sure what he is trying to say much less if it is a bad point.

bbxxj - June 17, 2010 via mobile reply

i guess letting someone suck for 3 years before cutting them

isnt patient enough, which is understandable coming from the Mets

CoxXx - June 17, 2010 reply

Was Kelly Johnson sucking for three years?

I think the joke is on you.

Bronn - June 17, 2010 reply

Where’s Justin when you need him?

Wow, that almost wins the stupidest comment of the day award. I’d piss all over that with stats and logic, but considering that comment made a grand total of 40 for you on TC, I don’t think its worth my time. It’ll probably be August before you come back anyway.

Best line ever

I’d piss all over that with stats and logic

i know he wasnt bad his whole stint with us

but if you ever even watched a single braves game last year, youd know why we got rid of KJ. Also, last time i checked, his almost 2:1 K:BB ratio throughout his stint with us also kind of sucks

CoxXx - June 18, 2010 reply

So I guess we should get rid of Troy Glaus for striking out too much.

Bronn - June 18, 2010 reply

if he starts hitting .220

then yeah, we probably should, but thats not the only reason KJ is gone, the main reason? MARTEEEEEEEN!!!!!!

CoxXx - June 18, 2010 reply

Could have stuck KJ back in LF, so not really

the answer could only be they didn’t think he’d be worth what he’d get in arb.

oh yeah?

stick a guy whos had tommy john surgery in the outfield? why do you think he moved to 2B after his surgery? and yes, you’re right, having a 2B with no power but also a 2:1 K:BB ratio is not worth pretty much anything. And besides, all this doesn’t even matter anymore cause we have the best 2B in baseball right now

CoxXx - June 18, 2010 reply

I should have followed Rhyno's advice and not responded...

basically your description of Kelly Johnson as a player is flat wrong. After all, what would we want with a guy who’s hit 13 HR, 21 2B and has an ops near .900 in our OF. And yes, I think he could play OF. He’d certainly be better defensively than last year’s LF, and his arm couldn’t be any worse than Johnny Damon or Nate McLouth, among others.

Bingo

If KJ were making $500k, he’d be in a Braves uni this year.

buzzdeadwax - June 18, 2010 reply

“If KJ were making $500k, he’d be in a Braves uni this year.”
buzzdeadwax
I thought it might be cool, if Chipper retires, to bring Kelly back to play second & move Prado to 3rd. (poster waits to be assaulted by anti-Kelly fans w/Fangraphs degrees)

adc62 - June 18, 2010 reply

I doubt the Diamondbacks (or if he's traded, whoever adds him)...

doesn’t offer arb this winter. He’s not about to be a free agent.

This

buzzdeadwax - June 18, 2010 reply

Mets fans turn into jackasses once they win

They’re funny when they lose, but fucktards when they beat up on the shitty Indians and Orioles.

Scott Coleman - June 17, 2010 via mobile reply

esto

GoBravesNY - June 17, 2010 reply

you know i don’t speak spanish…

this

ATLforlife - June 17, 2010 reply

Achorman reference!

It's asinine

When they suck they rip their team and when they succeed a bit they think the rest of the teams in baseball should bow down at the whim of hearing the word “Mets.”

BenDuronio - June 17, 2010 reply

That's not that much different from around here.

The difference is that

everyone actually should bow down upon hearing the name “Heyward.”

Jacob Peterson - June 17, 2010 reply

By Heyward you mean Melky

The God of Choppers

That being said lolllll mlb fanhouse.

Taking two out of three from yankees = momentum shift for phillies.

Fuck the media seriously. Padres have been the second or third best team in the mlb since the last all-star break and yet they are still considered a flash in the pan.

Also apparently a matchup between the matchup between the two top teams of arguably the two best division in baseball isnt worth the front page of mlb.com

lolllllll

MATCHUP OF THE MATCHUP OF THE MATCHUP OF THE MATCHUP

sometimes i even make myself sad

LMAO

So what about the matchup?

DolphinNation - June 18, 2010 reply

They are a flash in the pan.

BenDuronio - June 18, 2010 reply

No offense

but its the NY state of mind

There’s a reason why I like none of the teams in NY, most of it doesn’t have to do with the team or players. I just don’t want to be affiliated with such lunacy.

BenDuronio - June 17, 2010 reply

this, and its also the reason I dislike teams from Philly

Rhyno18 - June 17, 2010 reply

Good call

conformity sucks

I'm from NY

…and I can’t freekin stand any sports team in the state…no offense taken hooter’s.

DolphinNation - June 18, 2010 reply

Good Nas song

TCfromDubVee - June 18, 2010 reply

Hopefully

the Mets will die like Hip Hop has……………..according to Nas

Yeah well..

that’ll change this weekend a bit. They go from beating on shit teams to playing the Yankees. I’m sure they’ll be back to their normal bitching and complaining by Monday morning, if not sooner. The “Fire Manuel/Minaya” chants will be out in force.

DolphinNation - June 18, 2010 reply

ALL ABOARD THE HEYTRAIN!!!!!

CoxXx - June 17, 2010 reply

next stop

another series win at the Ted

CoxXx - June 17, 2010 reply

Its been too long since J-Hey went yard. It makes me happy (now lets get a run of more HRs from him!)

don't look now

but we have the best record and best run differential in the NL

atl192485 - June 17, 2010 reply

/looks

MBL1 - June 17, 2010 via mobile reply

LOL

telemakhos - June 17, 2010 reply

And just took 4 of six from the Twins and Rays. Mighty impressive. The only two we lost were to LH aces… get well soon Diaz and find us a RH CFer Wren!

bbxxj - June 17, 2010 via mobile reply

Yep. And then ESPN talks about how great the Mets are for winning 6 in a row against Cleveland and Baltimore. Give me a fucking break. We’ll smash them once we play.

Scott Coleman - June 17, 2010 via mobile reply

They play NYY, DET, MIN.. they could easily loose 9 in a row

GoBravesNY - June 17, 2010 reply

That would be a positive development.

fandave - June 17, 2010 reply

you are being absurd

I know ;) But they could actually loose 5 or 6 between the 3 series

GoBravesNY - June 17, 2010 reply

i hope they lose 10!

TCfromDubVee - June 17, 2010 reply

L-O-S-E

Good ridden! They need to lose about 8 or those 9 to get where they should be in the standings. winning 6 in a row = impressive, but winning six in a row against two of the worse teams in the majors this year = who cares.

jdeuel3868 - June 18, 2010 reply

I think a little taste of "road trip" will be good for those artificially inflated egos.

I would love to see us finally crush a good LH pitcher and those old pitchers that always get us (Moyer, Kendrick and Livan)

Kendrick is quite young but I get what you are saying. Moyer drives me nuts.

bbxxj - June 17, 2010 reply

Ha ha, yeah I just lumped him in at the last second. He just annoyingly good against us.

Yeah

So is Oliver Perez. Let that sink in for a moment.

AuditDawg - June 18, 2010 reply

Extremely impressive play lately.

Winning on the road vs. the Twins and at home vs. the Rays… Damn.

This team is for real, folks (not that any of you here are doubters).

Jacob Peterson - June 17, 2010 reply

Splitting with LA on the road also!

TCfromDubVee - June 17, 2010 reply

and to be honest, we should’ve won on Wednesday against the DBacks. If Heyward or McLouth calls for the ball, we probably win 1-0.

Yeah but if a few breaks went against the Braves they could have easily went 4-7 over the roadtrip.

It’s baseball and these things tend to balance out.

Alvaro Andres Pizza Varela - June 18, 2010 reply

You are damn right

The good thing about that play is that Mclouth isn’t stinking it up anymore (And no, I didn’t wish Mclouth to have a contusion, just to be taken out of the lineup) .

NL #1 ATL Braves

I always had faith that we could take 2 of 3. This is a solid team. Hudson has proven that sabermatrics numbers do not define his game. He is a gamer, a true Ace. Oh and one more thing, F U Mets! Play somebody real.

romone_braves91 - June 17, 2010 via mobile reply

When nobody can hit the ball squarely you don’t really need Ks. However Hudson is prone to more bouts of bad luck than strikeout pitchers just by how many times the ball is put in play.

bbxxj - June 17, 2010 reply

I understand what u r saying but there is more to the game than stats alone. We should just accept the fact that Hudson is just a different player.

romone_braves91 - June 17, 2010 via mobile reply

That, and the fact that good players make their own luck at times.

Scott Coleman - June 18, 2010 via mobile reply

This

award6 - June 18, 2010 reply

sabermetrics don't define any game

Qtips - June 18, 2010 reply

+ a lot

except they kinda do

GB rate is super important

kbertling353 - June 18, 2010 reply

not really

So Lowe is a better pitcher than Hanson because his ground ball rate is alot higher? GB rate tells you more about what kind of pitcher a guy is than whether or not they are having success.

Qtips - June 18, 2010 reply

nice try

K rate and GB rate correlate to pitching success

lowe is bad because he walks more than hudson and doesn’t have as high of a GB rate

kbertling353 - June 18, 2010 reply

And

When he eats it, it’s almost always because he leaves his sliders and sinkers up in the zone. He doesn’t get nickeled and dimed to death. When he loses it, he’s throwing BP.

Great win

Hudson pitched great. Good to see Heyward with the the homer and Glaus with the big hit

Braves24 - June 17, 2010 reply

MVP of the night:

Bill Hohn.

Thanks for not being a total jackass like usual. Since MLB had a meeting with him after the Roy Oswalt incident, he’s been pretty decent.

Hate to say it, but...

That’s right. He missed one or two pitches but nothing too above the norm for any other average ump.

Rec'd

If you barely notice he’s behind the plate, he’s done his job.

I agree

but since he’s wearing glasses this year (he didn’t last year, did he?) and with the mask on, he makes me think of Milton from “Office Space.”

Old Braves' Fan - June 18, 2010 reply

“Ok……but….thats the last straw………”

TheBravestWay To Block A Decent Prospect - June 18, 2010 reply

McCann should’ve fist pumped him.

adc62 - June 18, 2010 reply

Once again I ask, Where are the trolls? Why do they not arrive to dazzle us with their stupidity? Why must we wait for a loss or a KK start for them to emerge from under their bridges? What I am supposed to do around here if I don’t have any morons to poke a sharp stick at?

Rhyno18 - June 17, 2010 reply

KK no can winnar

DLowe 15mil per
Esco haz mental problems
McCann no can see
Chipper should retire
McOut
We traded Ace for Melk dud!!
Fire TP
Fire Wren
Bobby is leaving the starter out there too long
Bobby is burning though the bullpen
BOBBY IS COST US THAT GAEM!!!!!
DO SOMETHING BOBBY!!!!
WTF WHY ARE YOU DOING THAT BOBBY!!!
BOBBY CAWKS RUINED OUR SEASON!!
Chavez r suck
Poser
Crazy scheme to put KK in the bullpen
We need to traid Delgado/Freeman/Vizcanio/minor leaguer for Oswalt/C.Lee/Gonzalez/KC player
Worried about [blank]
LOBs/ Avg w/ RISP
[blank] isn’t a Major League Player
rabble

We're still getting a lot of that

“Worried about _________” junk, even now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5cAwTEEGNE

This short video will help you deal with such threads/comments

TheBravestWay To Block A Decent Prospect - June 18, 2010 reply

you forgot "WHY NO [RELIEVER] I DONT CARE IF HE PITCHED X INNINGS LAST NIGHT"

also melk dudz is my new nickname for mvp when he suxxxx

you misspelled a word:

it’s “BOBBY CAWKS RUINED ARE SEASON!!”

sanctarian - June 18, 2010 reply

Timmy hudsin r jus luckeee

MBL1 - June 18, 2010 via mobile reply

I will be a Debbie Downer about one thing: I’m fairly certain “Everyday” Johnny Venters’ (Jim Powell’s words) arm will fall off come July. I don’t feel like i’m overreacting here, but maybe once Saito comes back he’ll get some days off.

Bobby’s thinking on Venters:

“He’s a young guy, he can go everyday. Hell, in my day we played double-headers everyday and the same guy pitched both of them. If that whipper-snapper can’t pitch one stinking inning in 6 games a week, he deserves a trip up I-85 to Gwinnett anyway!”

You’re not overreacting by saying a guy’s arm is going to fall off??

dunnytwogloves - June 18, 2010 reply

touche.

There were a couple on the GT last night that set a new standard for Trolldom.

Best remedy is to make note of the name(s) and never reply. It’s exactly what they want.

It was hard for me to ignore the “no-hitter” post in the 3rd inning about our pitcher (not the first time this has happened by this person) – but I managed to sit on my hands. It’s a shame there are those who’s sole reason for joining the game threads is to toss out ridic stuff just to get a rise out of people.

ah, I’ve been missing the GT’s a lot lately because of my kids baseball games. I’ll have to try and make it to some more of them so I can get troll-fix on the days we win

Kids come and go, but game threads last forever.

Yeah, but I’m also coaching, so I get to overuse a bullpen the way Bobby Cox has taught me to!

lakers close for a championship!!!! will cap a great day for me!!!

Kobe:The Legend - June 17, 2010 reply

I could never be a fan of a team that has the refs and league doing whatever they can to bring them a win. Not to mention 80% of their fans are all bandwagon hoppers. I’m not saying you are, but a large majority of them are.

Hawks vs. Kings

NBA Finals next year

HELL YEAH!

Ha, forget that. Like the league would honestly let the Lakers lose in the playoffs when they’re struggling for money and tv ratings.

Scott Coleman - June 18, 2010 reply

They gave the Spurs and Rockets some shine for a while..

That's a good description of the 90's Bulls.

The team that killed my interest in the NBA for good.

The Bulls didn’t have nearly the talent the Lakers or even Celtics have. That was a true team, through and through.

MVH wrote:

I could never be a fan of a team that has the refs and league doing whatever they can to bring them a win. Not to mention 80% of their fans are all bandwagon hoppers. I’m not saying you are, but a large majority of them are.

That’s the Jordanbulls, to a tee.

How many Bulls fans are there now from ten years ago?

Lakers fans numbers will never dwindle like that.

Yes it will, when they start sucking for a decade & have no superstar.

All there phony fans started showing up as Clipper games when they sucked before Kobe & Shaq.

Last I checked the Bulls still have plenty of frustrated fans.

The Fakers fit that description to a tee. They played like plain shit last night. Kobe especially.

W/o the calls & the non-calls when they mauled the boards they loose.

Reason 1,678 to hate the NBA: since 1980 only 8 different teams have won the NBA championship. Only 8!

Furthermore, out of 60 championships, the Lakers and Celtics have won 32…actually, make that 33. Only the Lakers, Spurs, Pistons, Bulls, Celtics, Rockets, Heat, and 76ers have won NBA Championships in 30 years!!! The lack of parity blows my mind!

In the same time span there have been 13 NHL Champions, 15 NFL Champions, and 19 MLB Champions. My conclusion…every sport is better than NBA Basketball.

mvandonsel - June 18, 2010 reply

I can’t watch this series. It’s been painful offensively. Personally it’s probably more because of the fact that I am a Suns fan though.

Will Steve Nash ever win a title?

He’s a great player but his years are numbered now. I hope he wins won, but not sure if it will happen

Nash is unbelievable. The things he can do on a court is amazing. However, I expect him to join Stockton and Malone as a non winner.

He played good during the semifinals against the Lakers and made some insane shots.

Dude is clutch. Always has been.

Are they going to get Steve Nash some help in the offseason?

Are they going to resign Stoudemire?

Alvaro Andres Pizza Varela - June 18, 2010 reply

GM Steve Kerr quit two days ago because owner Robert Sarver didn’t want to raise the salaries of the coaching staff, medical staff, video reviewers and Kerr himself.

Sarver sold the pick to Boston that ended up being Rajon Rondo, so I think Steve Nash will never win a title with the Suns. He always has tough breaks.

Well the Suns have the best Med staff in the league. Grant Hill has been totally rejuvenated. Kerr quit but as far as I know, nobody really knows the exact reason why yet. Sarver has paid the luxury tax the last 3 years though.

The draft picks have been bad, but that was mostly D’Antoni’s fault because he didn’t like to develop rookies. Lopez and Dragic made huge advancements this year and I believe Clark will next year. But Amare coming back is key at a cost just below max so they can get another key player.

Defense wins titles, Nash has no clue what that word is.

very true.

yep

Laker repeat!!!!!

mvhsbball We know it hurts to be a fan of anyone but the Lakers, but get serious. Your tinfoil hat is drooping down over your eyes.

Dude get over yourself. It's good to be a fan of ANY team but the fake ass Lakers.

today is a good day

shaqfor3 - June 18, 2010 reply

LAKERS CHAMPIONS!!!!!!!

Kobe:The Legend - June 17, 2010 reply

Kobe is insane

He IS the Lakers. Can’t stand him, but he sure knows how to ball (and win). I do thank him from beating our big playoff rival in PA back when he was in high school.

apoxonbothyourhouses - June 18, 2010 reply

Back in my day...

Knowing how to ball meant something completely different.

Chopaholic - June 18, 2010 reply

ron artest:

i wanna thank my psychiatrist, she’s helped me relax a lot

LOL

atl192485 - June 17, 2010 reply

I’m semi-ashamed that he went to the same college as me.

BenDuronio - June 17, 2010 reply

I’m semi-ashamed that he went to the same college as me.

as I?

That guy is hilarious

Say “Queensbridge.”

Let’s give the MVP to the guy who shot 25% in game 7!

AllSaintsDay - June 18, 2010 reply

it's the finals MVP, not the game MVP

Kobe:The Legend - June 18, 2010 reply

Phil: "Ron was the MVP tonight."

I know

Kobe:The Legend - June 18, 2010 reply

Even some of Kobe's critics said before the game that win or lose Kobe deserved it.

More as kissing. Nevermind he played like shit in the biggest game of the year.

Once again he needs to kiss Pau’s boney ass.

Kobe admitted as much in the post game presser. Doesn't matter...

the Lakers as a team knuckled down and won it!

Joshua S - June 19, 2010 reply

It was great game and a good series

I would say it was a great series

It wasn’t really a great game. Tons of missed free throws, lots of sloppy play-poor work securing loose balls, and the Celtics fouling like crazy in the fourth quarter unnecessarily to let the Lakers back in it. Was hoping for a bit higher standard of basketball in a game 7, but at least it was a close game.

Bronn - June 18, 2010 reply

I really don’t judge until last the seven minutes or so. Yea it was sloppy play and lots of fouls by the Celtics, but when the game is close and the teams are going back in forth. I think that’s great because that means that someone has to make big shots in pressure situations. Yea it was a great series but some games could have been better

Baves have gone 5-2 over their past 7

And have lost 2 games in the standings.

Sure, the Mets have had some easy teams, but remember that we weren’t playing top-notch competition when we got our season turned around. Remember, it started with a sweep of the Brewers, then beating up on the Pirates on Diamondbacks (with a two game sweep of the Reds thrown in). Sometimes, when you get on a roll, everyone’s bats just settle in.

I’m hoping that they lose their mojo before Beltran gets back and going strong.

Bronn - June 18, 2010 reply

Poor Beltran. He’ll never be “back” the Mets really f*ed that one up.

Beltran?

That’s a Bobby Van.

Good win tonight. Made even better by the fact that I’m in Orlando which is apparently Rays territory and my coworker loves the Rays.

BullManUGA - June 18, 2010 reply

The Mets aren't that good. Also haven't we been over this nonsense before?

OK, KK hasn’t been great, but he hasn’t been terrible either. The one person on a baseball team that needs to be backed up is the pitcher. KK has pitched some good games, he ought to be 4 and 5 but shit happens as old Forrest would say. Lee? Really like we can afford that? As for the Mets, they are playing over their heads and have been playing weak not strong teams. Don’t worry,even if they are good their front office will screw them up LOL!! I’m not worried about the Mets except for Francouer, WHY Frenchy you ask? Because the big goof is liable to hit a fraeking homer on a ball in the dirt the big assbite!!! LLMAO

jimmontg - June 18, 2010 reply

The Mets are going to get a bit of a wake-up when they play the Yankees. Hopefully the Yankees will sweep them and put the Mets where they belong. And we should sweep the Royals.

ccarr25 - June 18, 2010 reply

Carl Crawford

I would really give anything to sign the guy. Too bad he’ll be a fucking Yankie.

ShawnG - June 18, 2010 reply

If Chipper retires we would actually have a good opportunity to. I think Werth will command more money.

BenDuronio - June 18, 2010 reply

Where's Chop with the checklist...

just keep on checkin.

Here ya go...

Check and Check...

gotta love it. You’ve been able to post that an awful lot lately. :)

KoKo the Monkey (T-Bone) - June 18, 2010 reply

Could someone explain to me why the IBB to McCann

in order to load the bases for Glaus? Were they thinking he’d be easier to strike out?

Matchup

MBL1 - June 18, 2010 via mobile reply

Overkill on leffty/righty matchups. Bobby would have done the same thing.

KoKo the Monkey (T-Bone) - June 18, 2010 reply

Gotcha. Thanks to both

There was a racist troll on the game thread last night….I think John Rocker found his way to Talking Chop

MBL1 - June 18, 2010 via mobile reply

That’s giving John Rocker too much credit.

HILARIOUS

http://TwitPWR.com/KOo/

UGAstudent4UF - June 18, 2010 reply

LOL

MBL1 - June 18, 2010 via mobile reply

your name is an abomination

could you not get in to Santa Fe?

I know!

I’m sure he gets enough ribbing on campus though….. or torture

no such thing as "enough" with an attitude like that

Haha. You're right

Football season isn’t here so my FLA hatred is set at 8.5 instead of 10

It's got little to do with hatred for Florida...

and more the overall douchiness of being a student in Athens but claiming UF. You shouldn’t see Auburn kids loving Bama, or Clemson kids who love South Carolina.

It’s a sign of self loathing, but he’s still my brother.