Christian Petersen - Getty Images
Back in December, the Braves' front office certainly wasn't a pleasant topic on message boards across the internet. They had just traded their ace from 2009 for Melky Cabrera and two talented, yet young prospects. At the time, most believed they had failed to bring in the "big bat" that the offense had desperately been missing since Mark Teixeria was traded to the Angels. Two months of the offseason had passed by and the Braves still hadn't made any moves to significantly improve their offense.
Then, on January 5th, the Braves signed Troy Glaus to a 1 year deal. At the time, most fans liked the move, but they felt Glaus was simply just another bridge player to get to Freddie Freeman. Would Glaus contribute for the Braves in 2010? Probably. Was he the "big bat" that everyone expected the Braves to land that would get them back to October baseball? 99% of fans would respond with a resounding "NO." Most figured Glaus would help, but Frank Wren would have to sign or trade for a big-time power hitting outfielder.
Oh, how we were all so wrong.
Coming into Wednesday, here is a look at Glaus' current stat line:
That's impressive. Really impressive. To be honest, 85% of the teams in baseball would rather have that production from their 1st baseman than the production they're receiving from their player.
And in case you had forgotten, Troy signed for $1.75MM as a base salary, with up to $2.25MM in incentives. The Braves are getting more production from their 1B than most teams in the league, and they're paying him no more than 4 million dollars. That's pretty neat.
After the jump, a comparison between Glaus and some of the National League's best 1st basemen...
If someone asked you who the best five 1st basemen are in the NL, there are few obvious answers: Albert Pujols, Adrian Gonzalez and Ryan Howard. Besides those three, a strong case could be made Prince Fielder and Joey Votto to round out the top 5. You could also make a case for Adam Dunn and Derek Lee (based on previous season's performance), so let's include those two as well.
First, let's compare their stat lines for the season as of Wednesday, June 16th:
This obviously isn't an exact science, but let's compare these seven players using a few basic offensive stats: Batting Average, OBP, SLG %, HRs, RBI and BB/K ratio.
This is how the scoring will work: If you have the highest batting average, you get 8 points. If you have the second highest batting average, you get 6 points. If you're third you get 5. And so on. Now to the scoring:
Batting Average:
Pujols (8), Votto (7), Gonzalez (6), Dunn (5), Glaus (4), Howard (4), Fielder (3), Lee (2)
OBP:
Pujols (8), Votto (7), Fielder (6), Gonzalez (5), Glaus (4), Dunn (3), Howard (2), Lee (1)
SLG %:
Dunn (8), Pujols (7), Votto (6), Gonzalez (5), Glaus (4), Fielder (3), Howard (2), Lee (1)
HRs:
Gonzalez (8), Pujols (8), Dunn (7), Fielder (6), Glaus (6), Votto (6), Howard (5), Lee (4)
RBI:
Glaus (8), Pujols (8), Gonzalez (7), Howard (6), Votto (5), Dunn (4), Fielder (3), Lee (2)
BB/K Ratio:
Pujols (8), Gonzalez (7), Fielder (6), Votto (5), Lee (4), Glaus (3), Dunn (2), Howard (1)
If you add it all up (maximum 48 points):
1. Pujols - 47
2. Gonzalez - 38
3. Votto - 36
T-4. Glaus - 29
T-4. Dunn - 29
5. Fielder - 27
6. Howard - 20
7. Lee - 14
So accoring to my "scientific" method, Troy Glaus has been the 4th most valuable 1B in the league. Think about that for a second. Even with the awful April that Troy had, he's been the 4th best 1B in the National League. Better than Prince Fielder. Better than Ryan Howard. Better than Adam LaRoche, Pablo Sandoval and Derek Lee. Better than every first baseman in the league besides Pujols, Gonzalez, Votto and Adam Dunn. That's awesome.
Now, let's take a look at the their salaries for the 2010 season*:
Glaus - $1.75MM
Pujols - $16MM
Gonzalez - $4.85MM
Howard - $19MM
Fielder - $11MM
Votto - $550,000 (pre-arb)
Lee - $13MM
Dunn - $12MM
*Note: These are just the base salaries. Glaus has up to $2.25MM in incentives in his deal for PAs in 2010. Most of these guys also have similar performance-based incentives in their contract for All Star Game appearances, MVPs, PAs, etc.
With the exception of Joey Votto who's still at the league minimum, Glaus is nearly $10MM cheaper than any of the other top 1B in the league. It's one thing if you have good numbers. It's another thing if you have good numbers and you're playing for "cheap". $4MM isn't anything to laugh at, but when you see Glaus totally out-performing Ryan Howard and his $19MM paycheck, it's extra special.
To conclude, we've seen it all from Troy in 2010. We saw him wrongfully booed off the field in April. We saw him win MLB's MVP for the month of May. We've seen him chug around the base paths and wonder if there's truly a man slower than Garett Anderson and we've seen him drive in 28 runners with 2 outs.
Though despite the inconsistencies, I think it's safe to say Braves Nation can safely say this: Troy Glaus has been the man in 2010. Without him, I'm not sure where the Braves would be.
Way to go Troy. And way to go Frank Wren for signing the NL's Comeback Player of the Year.
3 recs | 141 comments
Good shit man.
BRaves1 - June 17, 2010
“Deploy Troy! That’s a football term right?” Haha Community reference… Anyway I f’ing love Troy Glaus right now…
HansonManCrush - June 17, 2010 via mobile
Yes
i love this show
Xshare - June 17, 2010
The Braves revolving door at 1st should be no more
Let’s make sure Troy is back in 2011. The guy can play with the best of ’em.
Chief Noc-A-Homa - June 17, 2010
Damn straight! Resigning him means there’s no need to rush Freeman, take the pressure off, the kid’s only 20 years old anyway
HansonManCrush - June 17, 2010 via mobile
As an older free agent...
you’d think he’d go for the longest guaranteed deal, and that may not be us. As great as he’s been,we’d ideally look for him on a one or two year deal, and that may not be enough to get him (ala LaRoche last year).
Mr. Sanchez - June 17, 2010
I would try to lock him up thru 2012, if it was me
Chief Noc-A-Homa - June 17, 2010
I’d lock him in for a few. Guy has earned it.
kalesi - June 17, 2010
chippers replacement
at 3B in 2011 for sure
CoxXx - June 17, 2010
no god damnit
glaus is most likely playing below average D at first right now.
and he had shoulder surgery last year. the man is a great hitter but no longer has the tools to play 3B.
kbertling353 - June 17, 2010
If he’s looking for more than 2 years, or wants too much money, then perhaps he would be better served by going back to the AL to DH.
UMDBHIK - June 17, 2010
FW knew something other GM's didn't, you can tell by the smile.
SidGlaus - June 17, 2010
Love the smirk on Wren’s face – is it"F You guys, I know what I’m doing" or “Holy Sh** I hope this works”?
CharlotteChop - June 17, 2010
I think its a combo of “holy sh**, even I didn’t know I could pull this off!”
HansonManCrush - June 17, 2010 via mobile
I think its F you guys..and I can't believe I just signed a 20-25+ HR threat for at the most $4 mil.
By the way..seriously FW, lock glaus up for another year or two..freeman needs some more time possibly..and If he does become ready then we have some direction and options at first that we can go, unlike before with the stop gap/bridge 1B. That and I don’t want to have to change my moniker again next year to SidFreeman lol..
SidGlaus - June 17, 2010
Completely agree, lock him up. With Chipper’s imminent retirement, hopefully a new CF, potentially having to replace the LF spot also the Braves will have a lot of new faces in the lineup next year. Would be worth a premium just to have him back to stabilize the middle of the order and the faces in the clubhouse. This team seems to click personality wise and will need a leader like Glaus, who seems to lead with his play on the field. Throwing Freeman in the fire at age 21 with so many new faces will be alot to ask if the expectations are that he will have to carry the middle of the lineup.
CharlotteChop - June 17, 2010
not to mention hinske..
complete team player…re-sign him at the end of the season as long as he keeps it up..tired of the greg norton/professional hitter bs types off the bench.
SidGlaus - June 17, 2010
Oh man I love Hinske, he played at Arkansas while I was in school there. Have always followed him – and am so glad he is a Brave; hope he sticks around. He seems to really like playing in Atlanta, especially now that he is the starter against RHP.
CharlotteChop - June 17, 2010
you do realize Greg Norton was the best pinch hitter is basbeall in 2008 for the Braves. and he was still a valuable hitter (I will use the term hitter generally, here) last year as he had a 330 OBP (don’t get me wrong he didn’t hit well, but he was able to contribute a little bit). So we could be thinking that Hinske is Greg Norton circa 2008, and then next year hate his guts.
I just want you to remember these statements. because in a year, when Hinske or Glaus is struggling and showing why we were able to sign Glaus for less than 2M and the fact that Hinskehas played on three different teams the last three years.
Swo12bv - June 17, 2010
Norton sucked. End.
CharlotteChop - June 17, 2010
Not when he played, "circa 2008"...
the man kind of has a point. When Norton was playing semi-regularly, he was very productive. Then last year he was getting 5 or 6 at bats in a month, and really struggled. If Hinske went from semi-regular to exclusively pinch hitting with less than a dozen starts on the year, you’d probably see his production nose dive too.
Mr. Sanchez - June 17, 2010
I'm probably wrong..
I just didn’t like norton, even in 08. I really didn’t like FUGA..I mean who did..
SidGlaus - June 17, 2010
I don’t know why I didn’t liek Norton either, other than he wasn’t very good. I don’t think it’s a coincedence that he played for seven consecutive 88 loss or worse teams until the 09 Braves. Meaning, as a regular, he wasn’t a good enough position player to contribute to winning. He was good as a PH until 2009.
Hinske PH stats aren’t as good except for this year. He is hitting .300+ as a PH this year and contributing solidly. He will most likely regress toward his career means next year, but there is something that GMs like about the guy and it may just be the clubhouse/ winning attitude he brings.
CharlotteChop - June 17, 2010
Team player to me is important..
makes everyone else around you better, and when that happens and your in the order with good hot hitters..then your game is elevated. Just one word.. Chemistry.
SidGlaus - June 17, 2010
I understand your point..but every players a chance..
norton was how old when he played for us? just saying..
SidGlaus - June 17, 2010
All 3 of those teams went to the World Series FYI.
The worst of the best teams in baseball are probably still better than our other options…
EyePod - June 17, 2010
its a coincidence they went to the WS and its more telling that none of those teams wanted to keep him around.
Swo12bv - June 17, 2010
I think Freeman needs at least one more year. Wren should have put an option on the deal. I hope we can resign him, but he his 33 (I think) so will be looking for a long-term contract.
Braves24 - June 17, 2010
He still only has 9 doubles /Sanchez’D
bpk228480 - June 17, 2010
Tied for 2nd worst...
seriously though, I wonder how those numbers look if you take out his rough April. Since May 1, Glaus is quite possibly the most valuable player in baseball.
Mr. Sanchez - June 17, 2010
I agree, a hell of a signing by FW in the offseason for a great bargain. Of course we were not sure which Glaus we were going to get, the injured 2009 version or the healthy 2008 version. i’m glad to see that we got the 2008 version.
Hmm, I wonder if Freeman can play 3B???
Dave_D - June 17, 2010
Freddie did actually play 5 games at 3B when he was 17 for the Gulf Braves in Rookie ball…I wonder if they would ever think of swapping him over to 3rd again to be Chipper’s replacement. He has great hands, seems pretty quick to the ball from what I’ve seen and he used to be a pitcher so he has a good arm.
Dave_D - June 17, 2010
my thoughts edzachary..but I saw him play first at a b-ham barons
game last year..and he literally did the splits to hold onto first and stretch for the ball..his 1B skills are mad..haven’t looked at any stats but what I saw I loved..but I’m up for 3B if he can..to me thats a bigger void to fill than 1B..
SidGlaus - June 17, 2010
I saw Clint Sammons play third for Mississippi at the infamous “Philip Wellman grenade” game a few years back. That was awesome. Wellman, i mean, not Sammons at third.
10-4 - June 17, 2010
As much as I love Clint, he doesn’t hit enough to play anywhere in the pro’s on a regular basis. I’m not sure how you got to Sammons when I was talking about Freeman. :-)
Dave_D - June 17, 2010
You asked about a non third baseman playing third, and my mind immediately went to another one-Clint Sammons. Plus, i like reminded people that i saw the greatest managerial show ever put on live and in person.
10-4 - June 17, 2010
I’ll answer your question, because it has been answered a bunch of times already, and you have missed it (this may sound douchy, but its not intended that way)…
Freeman can’t play 3B. If the Braves thought he could play 3B they would have left him there and then allowed him to switch to 1B if they needed him to. As was mentioned he only played 17 games as a 3B in the Gulf Coast League and didn’t play there since. He is a very good defensive 1B, but he can’t play 3B. He is too big and deliberate with his actions.
Our resident minor league aficionado, CB has said on numerous occasions he is really pigeonholed at 1B. although I personally think he could be moved to LF if we found a 1B that was better than him.
It’s kind of a shame too, his bat would play a lot better at 3B than at 1B (not a slight against him, but his power still hasnt shown itself in games yet consistently, although seeing as he is 20 there is really no reason to be concerned about it yet). But there’s still time for his bat to improve above its current high level and show why he is considered to be a legit power threat
Swo12bv - June 17, 2010
I doubt he could play LF either. Watching him have to run that much would be painful.
cbwilk - June 17, 2010
I’ve seen him enough live now that I agree with you 100%. 1B is really Freeman’s only option.
Rhyno18 - June 17, 2010
i dont by any means think he would be a good LF…but Adam Dunn plays there so there’s no reason Freeman can’t play there…or Corky Miller….or a corpse…
Swo12bv - June 18, 2010
Freddie was a 3B in HS, but I’m sure if the Braves felt he could play there regularly he’d be playing there. It’s a much more valuable position that 1B so it would only make sense. By not playing him there the team is basically saying, he doesn’t have what it takes to play 3B. But, fortunately, he’s an outstanding defender at 1B.
cbwilk - June 17, 2010
I bet a buddy of mine $5 that Glaus hits at least 25 homers this year; wish I had upped that bet.
ChrisK562 - June 17, 2010
Offer him double or nothing for 30. ;)
bravos1984 - June 17, 2010
LOL
ChrisK562 - June 17, 2010
Not related..but just checked the probables for KC
D-lowe Friday, Med’s saturday..no one listed yet for sunday..I’ll be at the Saturday game excited to see meds taking the mound against greinke, that kid truly is a BALL PLAYER, I mean look at his start in the Dodgers series jeeez..got great seats too..uber excited! Absolutely been too busy to get over to any games this year..live in North Alabama.
SidGlaus - June 17, 2010
Should be KK on Sunday. Bobby said he would “absoulutely” make his next scheduled start.
10-4 - June 17, 2010
wellll..it is the royals..
so maybe 1st win? if he doesn’t have a good start against them..I can’t see any possible way he can be sent out for his next start..lol
SidGlaus - June 17, 2010
The Good Pitchers Who Have Legitimate Reasons to Hate Everything and Puppies game!
I’m amazed this is happening. I don’t think we’ll see a concentration of misery like this again unless the Phils play the Orioles.
Londonjoe - June 17, 2010
With his luck, KK will match against Greinke.
carpengui - June 17, 2010
Good write up MVH. I have been preaching for weeks that we need to try and re-sign Glaus now. I still think if we dangle 2-3 yrs at $6-8 mil in front of him, we can lock him up. He is 32 now, so he would be 35 or 36 at the end of the contract(depending on when his birthday is) He is definitely the bargain of the year. If Chipper does retire, there will be some extra money to put towards this contract. We will also need a 3B. Either Troy can move back to third, if his shoulder will allow for thisor Freeman can switch, if we don’t get another #B for the short term. If hipper stays on at third, Glaus can play first and let Freeman develope some more.
DawgB - June 17, 2010
I just think if troy's shoulder was really a problem..
he wouldn’t be hitting as well as he has been..JMHO.
SidGlaus - June 17, 2010
My concern is throwing. That motion is different than hitting. an he make tose long throws from 3rd, without cauisng him any problems? However, given our success with surgical repairs lately, it is quite possibe that it’s better than new.
DawgB - June 17, 2010
Troy’s shoulder would not hold up at third for a full season
Braves24 - June 17, 2010
Wow that Pujols is good
traphicg - June 17, 2010 via mobile
Another one of Wren's great moves
Remember when we all wanted Dayton Moore to take over for JS?
was385 - June 17, 2010
Who knows what Dayton Moore could do with resources, from money to a good scouting department.
cbwilk - June 17, 2010
Well, he had the resources to trade for Yuniesky Betancourt, one of the worst moves in the history of GMing.
Bronn - June 17, 2010
in the cellar.....
is where the braves would be without Glausosaurus…he is the best player on our team this year not named martin. incredible pick up.
bluelg - June 17, 2010
His play and that of Prado have also taken the spotlight and burden off of Heyward. Even with his recent struggles, Heyward is a vast improvement over last year.
DawgB - June 17, 2010
true story
bluelg - June 17, 2010
Prado
Is going to win a freakin batting title
MBL1 - June 17, 2010 via mobile
Can I just say...I LOVE that photo of Troy at the top
Spot ON article Scott, nice job.
Rec’d.
NCChopper - June 17, 2010
He looks like he’s thinking “did I go to Wendy’s twice yesterday?”
LOL
ChrisK562 - June 17, 2010
He’s doing the same thing I do every time I drive up for a game:
“OK, 35 was Niekro, 44 was Aaron, 31 was Mathews…No, no, 31 was Maddux, Mathews was 41…”
HalleyGator - June 17, 2010
I’m not the only one?
MBL1 - June 17, 2010 via mobile
great info..thanks
wisco - June 17, 2010
Nice article but...
Where is your pate t Glaus pick “Haters love me”. That pic always crack me up. I think we should resign him but I still want to wait to see if he can maintain this performane in Sept/Oct the big months.
romone_braves91 - June 17, 2010 via mobile
He’s on the payroll now, his articles have to be professional.
10-4 - June 17, 2010
There are perfectly good value metrics available without cherry-picking traditional stats like it’s the 1980s. Glaus is currently 8th among NL 1B in WAR. If you want to strictly look at offense he’s 6th in wOBA. If WPA is your thing he’s 9th in that. He’s also posting a .333 BABIP when his career BABIP is .283.
Obviously he was a great signing given how little he’s making, but you really have to stretch your definition if you want to call him one of the best 1B in the league and he’ll probably drop off some when his BABIP comes down.
Ron A. - June 17, 2010
i completely agree, but would like to add that even with that regression he is still worth well over 1.75M or even the 4M with all the incentives…if/when he regresses to his career BABIP he will still have good power and good patience at the plate…so we wont be killed by regression.
Swo12bv - June 17, 2010
Should have checked the comments before doing the research
Just about to post something similar with metrics. Good work. Like you said, he’s certainly exceeding what you should expect for a player for that price.
KoKo the Monkey (T-Bone) - June 17, 2010
question. do you also go around telling kids that they are adopted and that santa isnt real?
carebearmafia - June 17, 2010
This comment is more useful than the article.
VivaLosBravos - June 17, 2010
If you haven't noticed by now
I’m not much of an advanced stats kind of guy. Feel free to write your own post though.
Scott Coleman - June 20, 2010
He needs more triples!!!!
Home runs are boring. I want to see triples!!
But in all seriousness…
I think Troy would have to hit one that rattled around in the outfield for about :25 in order for him to get a triple.
HalleyGator - June 17, 2010
Troy,
I’m sorry that I said “F*** YOU” so many times earlier in the season, when all signs pointed to you being a GIDP Cyborg. I thought you were a shell of your former self, and boy, are you proving me wrong. But, I’ve never been so happy to be wrong.
Take Care
xoxoxo
-Cracker
Cracker! - June 17, 2010
you get a +1 from me sir…
Swo12bv - June 17, 2010
admitting your mistakes is the first step toward recovery
Rhyno18 - June 17, 2010
Troy to 3b next year
Assuming Chipper retires. He won a gold glove there awhile back, and even as big and slow as he’s gotten, he can’t possibly be worse defensively than Chipper has been this year.
Then you have 1b open for Freddie if he’s ready, or Hinske if not.
BrockSamson - June 17, 2010
I’ve always been a fan of Glaus since he came up with the Angels. I was so happy when the Braves picked him up on the cheap. Coming off his injury, you knew it would take some time for him to get his swing back, and even then it wasn’t a guarantee. It’s great for us that he has found his stroke again.
And he’s playing a fine first base too from what I’ve seen. I’ve been impressed so far.
Sparhawk - June 17, 2010
I love Troy, would like to see him stick around just becaues Freddie is still just a kid. However, I don’t think he could play 3rd base anymore. He is fine at 1st, leave him there where it seems to be working out good for him. Everytime I hear anyone talk about having a player change positions I always think about poor Chipper getting shipped out to LF. Anyway, awesome write up! As always Sir, ya do a great job! So, does anyone else have a thought about Troy’s ability to move back to 3rd? Do y’all just think I’m off? Lemme know!:)
jdmarine - June 17, 2010
Just a thought...
Anyone other than me think the best move for next year, if Chipper DOES retire, would be Prado to 3rd, Infante (or free agent pickup) to 2nd, and…wait for it… Carl Crawford in Left?!?! With the production the Yankees have been getting from their outfield this year it doesn’t look like they’ll need/want to get into bidding for him… I mean, the guy is a straight up STUD, and who better to replace an icon than with a guy with an iconic skillset?
jcbraves - June 17, 2010
Prado doesn’t have enough offense to play 3rd. He hits for average, not power.
BullManUGA - June 17, 2010
How good has Troy Glaus been?
Very
MBL1 - June 17, 2010 via mobile
Dippy Homerism
Dippy ranking.
There are 10 MLB 1B having better VORP years than Glaus.
What’s next, Heyward is the best NL rookie by ignoring Jaime Garcia, or Heyward is the best offensive rookie by ignoring Brennan Boesch?
Go Braves! but keep it real, and stop cheapening your analysis.
Top 11 1B:
Justin Morneau
Miguel Cabrera
Kevin Youkilis
Albert Pujols
Adrian Gonzalez
Paul Konerko
Joey Votto
Adam Dunn
Billy Butler
Aubrey Huff
Troy Glaus
Drom John - June 17, 2010
welcome
buzz killington
bpk228480 - June 17, 2010
Ahhhhh....
bravos1984 - June 17, 2010
“Dippy”? I’ve never, ever heard that adjective before.
cbwilk - June 17, 2010
Don’t insult mvhs or i will hit you with a taco!
MBL1 - June 17, 2010 via mobile
He was ranking Glaus vs. other NL 1B's
So his rankings only had him two spots behind where VORP ranks him. Putting those AL 1B’s in there really cheapened your dippy argument, I think.
J-Turn14 - June 17, 2010
I like the random “1.” you inserted into your post, to make it appear you had a point. However, the rest of your post should looked like this.
ucwutididthere? It makes about as much sense as yours did.
Rhyno18 - June 17, 2010
Hahahaha OWNED
MBL1 - June 17, 2010 via mobile
I <3 you!
justincredubil02 - June 17, 2010
brennan boesch doesn’t even have enough at bats to qualify for statistical leader boards. We’ll see at the end of the year who’s better. Garcia has let go a ton of walks and has stranded over 84% of baserunners. He’s due for some regression.
telemakhos - June 17, 2010
I wonder what kind of rookie season Heyward would be having if he was 25 like Boesch.
VivaLosBravos - June 17, 2010
Aaaaaand _________ goes the dynamite.
justincredubil02 - June 17, 2010
what is " Boom" alec?
Swo12bv - June 18, 2010
Hey, it’s funny that you mentioned AL players in a “Top NL 1B” discussion. If you use your list, and take only the NL players, Glaus is #5 – which is only 1 less than what MVH’s traditional comparrison showed us.
justincredubil02 - June 17, 2010
Glaus’ value for 2010: Already earned.
UMDBHIK - June 17, 2010
Great article.
I hope we can resign him. I just worry about paying him too much or signing him for too many years.
Frozen Fan - June 17, 2010
I always had faith in Troy
Chipperman90 - June 17, 2010
One of these days when I'm bored I'm going back to an old article (probably a post-game recap towards the end of his slump) just to see who actually had faith in Glaus.
And I have a feeling that it’s only going to be me, pac, and justin.
DogDaysofSummer - June 17, 2010
Also, the phrase "he's actually ripping the ball pretty well but it's just not dropping" is burned into my mind.
DogDaysofSummer - June 17, 2010
I always thought that if he got his timing
he was absolutely gonna crush some fastballs..and in the month of may he found it.
SidGlaus - June 17, 2010
excuse me?
http://www.talkingchop.com/2010/4/25/1442835/stop-worrying-the-braves-will-be-ok
Scott Coleman - June 17, 2010
That's wild
I just went back to that very thread, I posted that Glaus deserves more time in it. HEYJUDE has defended Glaus all along as well.
bighop - June 17, 2010
Thanks for getting my back.
I was about to explode when I read the above comment. I recognized Troy’s abilities in ST, and took all kind of crap for always supporting Glaus, even when he was not playing up to his abilities. I remember you doing so also:)
HEYJUDE - June 17, 2010
So would it be considered a lack of support,...
or whatever someone wants to call it for pointing out that through April, while he was making good contact the contact he was making wasn’t being productive? Just wondering where people are drawing the line, because while I wasn’t among those saying definitively that “Glaus will rebound and be a great player”, I don’t consider what I was saying as bashing the guy.
Mr. Sanchez - June 17, 2010
I was going off the top of my head, but now that you mention it, I do seem to remember you pointing out that his BABIP was what was killing him several times.
Rhyno18 - June 17, 2010
That wouldn't have been me...
maybe Beard or another, but certainly not me.
I was the one saying that while he was making good contact, his deep balls were far too often being caught at the warning track and that his hits were nothing but singles. I liked his contact, but wondered if his power may have been shot in the shoulder (hence balls that came to the track instead of going over) and that while singles are nice, they weren’t what he was brought here to do. Kind of acknowledging that while he had some good signs (the quality contact), there were bad ones too (the lack of extra base hits and fly balls falling just short).
Mr. Sanchez - June 17, 2010
ah, this is why I shouldn’t rely on my failing memory.
Rhyno18 - June 17, 2010
So what am I considered?...
A basher, a supporter, a realist, something different?
Mr. Sanchez - June 17, 2010
Sounds like you were kind of a fence-sitter. Just be careful of those sharp pickets!
Rhyno18 - June 17, 2010
How DARE you, sir, give Sanchez credit for something I did???
justincredubil02 - June 17, 2010
I shall flog myself repeatedly to try and make amends.
Rhyno18 - June 17, 2010
I remember myself, Beard, pac, hobbs, mvhs, and justin for certain, and I remember CB and I talking about it at a game in Norfolk near the end of April and he was still positive about Glaus. I’m pretty sure 10-4 and several of the lovely ladies of TC like NCChopper, Jude, and ’baker remained supportive.
It was mostly the trolls that only show up when things are going badly that were all over him. There were plenty of smartass comments made in game threads jokingly, but when the trolls crawled out from under their bridges, the “old guard” around here was still defending him.
Rhyno18 - June 17, 2010
I'm late to catching up today and just now seeing this.
Thanks Rhyno and Justin for remembering us “lovely ladies”.
NCChopper - June 17, 2010
I always supported Glaus. Maybe wasn’t as outspoken as someone like you were, but I was always behind him
GoBravesNY - June 17, 2010
Well, it was the “outspoken” ones that I could remember, because they were all so, y’know, outspoken.
Rhyno18 - June 17, 2010
Add Jareth Cutestory to your list too, and I think you pretty much have it – although NCC and Jude were always on board, just not as, um…vocal as some of the rest of us.
justincredubil02 - June 17, 2010
thnx for having my back man…its not like we’ve been friends for like 5 years or w/e
Swo12bv - June 18, 2010
This so This!
HEYJUDE - June 17, 2010
Reply fail to Rhyno18
HEYJUDE - June 17, 2010
I got your back, girl!
Rhyno18 - June 17, 2010
Thanks,
I appreciate you doing so:)
HEYJUDE - June 17, 2010
The trolls were pissing down everybodies back about that time. I went to the archives and read a few threads when Dog Days made his list of 3 Glaus supporters, it was ugly back then.
And getting your back, it was my pleasure, you’ve gotten mine more than once.
bighop - June 17, 2010
That's what "true fans" do for one another :)
HEYJUDE - June 17, 2010
My reply fail is failing:(
HEYJUDE - June 17, 2010
That just means you can be an author on the site!
Just a little dig @ Ben:)
Rhyno18 - June 17, 2010
We're adding another author next week!
He goes by Holty_Panthers_Fan
Scott Coleman - June 17, 2010 via mobile
I would freakin quit. I would never ever ever ever ever come back…ok, maybe I would.
justincredubil02 - June 17, 2010
I'm getting worried about Freeman.
I think we should trade him now while he still has value, and re-sign Glaus for another year or two.
GouldisGold - June 17, 2010
He’s 20 and in Triple-A. Not everybody can be Jason Heyward and dominate from the first day they’re no longer a teenager.
Scott Coleman - June 17, 2010 via mobile
The key to Freeman is “20 and in Triple-A”. He’s in the plans for 2011, but even if it takes another year and a half he’ll be young to the Major Leagues. I keep thinking about what CB posted that Freeman told him, AAA is tough. Trading him now would be a huge mistake. Give him time to devolop as a player, I don’t think we’ll be disappointed.
bighop - June 17, 2010
Early in the season, back in late April, Freddie was really quiet and reserved. He was doing well at AAA then, but I think he was still getting his feet under him. Having talked to him and seen him play last week, he appears much more comfortable at the AAA level than he did 2 months ago. He’s going to be fine. I still don’t want Glaus to go anywhere next year, but Freddie can handle it if that’s what ends up happening.
Rhyno18 - June 17, 2010
He’ll get another spring training and maybe another partial to whole season in AAA would not be the worst thing for his development. No need to rush the kid.
UMDBHIK - June 17, 2010
The Glausaraptor
BongasaurasRex - June 17, 2010
I didn't get any "lazy journalism" co
Scott Coleman - June 18, 2010 via mobile
your a lzy journalist you don’t even proofread your comments…that phrase just stops…
and you a horrible horrible person.
happy now…you got a lazy journalism comment
Swo12bv - June 18, 2010
YES!
Scott Coleman - June 20, 2010
I didn't get any "lazy journalism" comments
I’m disappointed. And sorry for the “Justin” on the double post.
Scott Coleman - June 18, 2010 via mobile
You must Login with your SB Nation account and be a member of Talking Chop to post a comment.