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Braves Quote For The Day II... Jason Heyward and the RBI

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Okay, I'm quoting myself here, but it bears repeating:

Jason Heyward has a higher percentage of RBIs for his team than any other player in baseball.

I re-quote this because neither Mark Bowman, nor David O'Brien mentioned it in their blogs today, and I think it tells us so much about this Braves team... and about Heyward. Not only does it tell us how inept all the other hitters in our order have been in run scoring situations, but it indicates how valuable Heyward has been... maybe even "most valuable." How dare I bring up talk of MVP in May, but if you drive in a higher percentage of runs for your team than anyone else in baseball, that's a pretty darn valuable player. I know, we'll talk in September when small sample sizes are a thing of the past, but this is something to keep an eye on.

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How long is he going to be batting in the bottom third of the order? Moving him up would both get him more opportunities to do damage, and let Chipper see more pitches to hit.

Its scary

the leaders he sits with in RBIs and HR all have 15-20 more ABs than him. If he were hitting in the correct spot with real protection, he could be at 10 HR – 30 RBI by now.

Heyward is good at hitting baseballs.

i would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Don’t get lazy now. The line is “This post is relevant to my interest, and I should like to subscribe to your newsletter, sir.”

Ha, well, if we’re picking nits the real line is “Your ideas intrigue me and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.”

You’re all a bunch of dorks.

Whatever you say Sgt…

Says the hemaphrodite Sgt Slaughter

Well yeah, I never said I wasn’t one too, but I’m not the ones correcting other dorks on how to be more accurate dorks

Should there be a D&D tourney to determine the biggest ...

dweeb on TC? Perhaps a Simpsons or movie quote contest

My D&D character shall be named…Carlos the dwarf.

I put on my robe and wizard hat…

You missed my reference, but +1 b/c your reference is freakin’ hysterical as well

Is that like Carlos the baby?

I abhor the Simpsons and D&D...

But I’ll take you folks to school on movie quotes.

i beg to differ

and I’ll own Seinfeld quotes

Beg to differ all you want.

I’ll still pwn your ass (See what I did there?)

Both my parents are movie buffs; my whole family communicates in movie quotes. I have a ginormous mental bank of useless movie knowledge and quotes. Bring it.

Glad to hear my family isn’t the only one who speaks in quotes.

Same here. My Dad has a friend who once told us that visiting was like living in an extended movie trailer.

I dunno about you, but Tommy Boy is probably our number one go to. So quoteable.

Anchorman is up there too.

No Anchorman for us, none of us can stand Ferrell. Monty Python, the Blues Brothers, and Ghostbusters tend to be our Big Three.

Sounds like you guys are a little more old school (no pun intended).

When it comes to the most-quoted stuff, yes. This in no way means that we don’t still see a ton of the latest stuff, though. But yeah the classics get the most face time around the house. “What did you do, Ray?” is easily the most oft-repeated line.

So, you are saying that coconuts MIGRATED?

Oh, and I also abhor the Simpsons

Matt Groening’s writing makes me want to puke.

The word "potential"

Personally, I dislike the word. To some, it’s a word of promise, but when I see the word potential, all I really see is this ball and chain, implying that for whatever reason, something that is not there, but could be, but is not.

Jason Heyward, at this current pace, probably would win ROY. Also at this current pace, I imagine he’ll get some MVP consideration too. I expect to see his B-R page have on his 2010 line “RoY-1, MVP-16” or something like that.

But on a team with the potential for talent as this team has, I don’t think a rookie should be relied upon so heavily to burden success on. As much as I’m really enjoying this fine rookie campaign, I don’t think Jason Heyward should be sword that slays the adversaries, but instead, the hammer from the 6th spot that drives the nail into the coffin, after McLouth, Prado, Chipper, Heap and Glaus have actually done their jobs.

We’ll have to be in the playoff picture for Heyward to get MVP talk.

2006

Ryan Howard and the 2006 Philadelphia Phillies beg to differ

finishing 3 games out of the wild card isn’t in the playoff picture?

With the Dodgers winning 9/10 and seven in a row, the Phillies were out of it a lot sooner than you think.

Are you really suggestion that since the Phillies were practically eliminated with a week left in the season that they weren’t part of the playoff picture? I mean, really?

Really? Really?? Yes, really.

I am really suggestioning that they weren’t a part of the playoff picture with over a week to go, with the hottest team in baseball simply not losing at the time. Three games to make up from a non-division rival with so little to go is a pretty dismal picture, similarly to the Braves’ unsuccessful chase to catch the Rockies last year.

Gaudy numbers are gaudy numbers. And if Heyward continues to put up his own gaudy numbers throughout the years, an MVP award is not far fetched, regardless of the Braves’ W-L record. Tim Lincecum’s 2008 Cy Young and Zack Grienke’s 2009 Cy Young should be indicative of that.

Agree to disagree…. I think you’re overestimating the Atlanta market and underestimating the Phillies 2006 season.

What does the market have to do with anything?

All I said was consideration, I didn’t say he would flat out win it. Consideration doesn’t require any sort of playoff hopes, because consideration is equally valuable to players getting it, because it gives them justification to ask for more money in their careers.

If you take a look at the annual breakdowns, you’ll see that there are a lot of guys getting consideration. Maybe “consideration” is the wrong choice of word, since they had no chance in the end, but garnered votes. The Padres, Dbacks, Nationals and Reds had no chance at playoffs, but it didn’t stop Adrian Gonzalez, Mark Reynolds, Ryan Zimmerman and Joey Votto from getting votes. By year’s end, I imagine Jason Heyward will garner his own share of MVP votes.

+1 for “suggestioning”

+1

pelican.

You rang?

Took more than 30 mins…the next pelican I order is free, got that!

Fine. No charge.

This will definitely be useful later on.

If I don’t see this in a game thread by Sunday, I’m going to find you…

Depends on age, but in my time as a basketball scout...

my common phrase was, “Potential is a fancy word for ain’t worth a shit yet”

You want "potential"

This kid’s going to hear it his whole life, and if he doesn’t go pro, he’s SOL

Wow...

like the kid who was hitting free throws at 2 on the little mini hoop in the living room, but seemingly much more legit. His follow through with that big bat was hilarious. I also liked the comment, bada spelling and all…
“Fairly obvious, like most domenicans, they lied about his age. He looks to be about 33.”

The lineup tonight is gross...no Heyward or BMac again

Infante
Prado
Chipper
Glaus
Diaz
Ross
Melky
McLouth
DLowe

I’ll be happy with 2 runs again.

I predict 7.

I still have no idea how we did that.

It’s difficult to believe Moyer will own us again.

It’s difficult to believe Moyer won’t fall down and bust his hip.

DOB... (@ajcbraves)

says he’ll update McCann’s status on Twitter.

oh dear ugly.

with a lefty going, it makes sense to let Heyward stay resting...

I doubted he’d play today simply because he was pinch run for after the hit last night.

Plus, it sets up perfectly for a PH later on. He’s batting 1.000 so far in his career coming off the bench, you know.

So you're saying we should move him to the bench?

interesting.

Do we have a future 2008 Greg Norton on our hands? Only time will tell.

i’d rather have 3-4 ABs of heyward rather than 1, just sayin’

Mike W (Chicago)

I know everyone loves Jason Hayward and the kid is ridiculous. But how many wins does Mike Leake have to get to get into NL Rookie of the Year consideration?

Jayson Stark (1:51 PM)

If Jason Heyward has the kind of season it looks like he’s going to have? If he comes anywhere near his current pace (48 HR, 155 RBIs, 1.037 OPS)? It won’t matter how many games Mike Leake wins. Every-day players who dominate like that are locks for that award.

I’d take those numbers. He’d have to be a 60HR/200RBI/1.500OPS in the next few years though or I think the Braves might trade him.

Honestly

At this point I will not be surprised if Heyward hits 40 – 130

If he does so, I think baseball and the voters will be so enamored with what a 20 year old just did that they will vote him the MVP regardless of the teams record. Seasons like that just don’t happen for 20 year olds.

Heyward may go .300-40-130,

But that wouldn’t necessarily make him an MVP. It would make him ROY, for sure, but not MVP.

Mike W is an idiot

Did you see those people in another chat (from Wednesday, I think) saying that Frank Wren should be on the hot seat?

I think it’s nuts to say that now, but if the Braves aren’t in the playoffs by 2012 or so, then I think he’ll be gone.

How long did it take John to get to the playoffs? And, how much money did he spend along the way?

One season, and a metric fuckton

Respectively.

That doesn’t surprise me at all

that's even better than Pujols numbers
Oh dear.....

McCann’s havingmore problems with eyes, will start wearing glasses again tomorrow.

I’m fine with that. He came back with a fury last year once he figured out the problem and started wearing the glasses. I know he doesn’t consider this the ideal scenario, but if this breaks him out of his slump like it did last year I think he, the team, and we will all be elated.

Could his eyes be the reason he’s not been hitting well. I guess at this point he’s sticking with the glasses for good.

might explain why he’s chasing breaking balls in the dirt so frequently.

source?

I haven’t seen any official articles out yet, but Mark Bowman and DOB have both posted a shitload about it on Twitter

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