The good ship Braves Country sails into a new port of call tonight for a 3-day series against the Pittsburgh Pirates. The Pirates (18-23) have not been very good, but it has been more inconsistency than true putridity (the Disastros seem to have a monopoly on putridity this season). Just in the past week, they've beaten Roy Halladay, Randy Wolf, and Ryan Dempster. Of course, they've also lost to Chris Narveson and Kyle Kendrick, so who knows what's in store for this series.
The Pirates have swept the Cubs and the Reds in series this year... but they have also been swept by the Reds by a score of 16-1 and the Brewers by a score of 36-1 (including a 20-0 loss). They were even swept by the Astros--a truly remarkable accomplishment. With the Braves playing good baseball of late, a series win (or even a sweep) seems eminently doable.
Friday, 7:00: Tim Hudson (4-1, 2.41) vs. Ross Ohlendorf (0-1, 3.00)
Huddy tries to continue his excellent season tonight against Ohlendorf, who is making just his 4th start of the year (the 3rd since returning from a back injury). In his last start, the 27-year-old righty gave up 2 runs in 6 innings to the Cubs. Despite his good 3.00 ERA, Ohlendorf has not pitched well so far this year. He's only gone 15 innings in his 3 starts, and has given up 11 hits and 10 walks in those innings (1.40 WHIP). The walks are especially worrisome, considering that he has struck out only 7 batters all year. These poor peripherals explain why Ohlendorf's FIP (5.05) and xFIP (6.55) are so much higher than his ERA. If he wants to keep up a decent ERA, he's going to have to strike out more and walk fewer. Let's hope that he doesn't start doing that tonight.
(The rest of the pitching matchups, the Stats of the Series, and an analysis of the Pirates' "rebuilding" project after the jump...)

Saturday, 7:00: Derek Lowe (5-4, 5.47) vs. Charlie Morton (1-7, 9.68)
Lowe has been pitching better lately, but even if he sucks tomorrow, he might stand a decent chance of getting a DerekLoweWin, because Morton, a 26-year-old righty, has had a rough time this year. He's been susceptible to big innings and has lasted 4 innings or less in half of his 8 starts. Still, despite giving up 38 earned runs in 35.1 innings, Morton actually has decent peripherals (arguably better than either Ohldendorf's or Duke's). His strikeout rate (7.64 K/9 innings) and walk rate (2.55 BB/9) are actually about league-average.
Charlie's problem has been extreme hittability, as he has given up an astonishing 52 hits (over 13 H/9) and 8 homers (over 2 HR/9). Many of those hits and homers can probably be attributed to bad luck or poor defense, as he is giving up a .389 batting average on balls in play (BABIP) and a 20.5% homer per fly ball rate (HR/FB). With average luck and defense, his ERA would look much better. His FIP is a merely bad 5.55, and his xFIP is actually pretty good--4.12. Charlie hasn't been good this year, but if the Pirates are patient with him (and really, they have no reason not to be patient), he'll be a decent 4th or 5th starter for them.
Sunday, 1:30: Kris Medlen (1-1, 2.45) vs. Zach Duke (3-4, 5.08)
Crabs Medallion makes his 3rd start of the year on Sunday against 27-year-old lefty Zach Duke. Duke is coming off a game in which he and the Pirates' bullpen outdueled Roy Halladay. Duke gave up 1 run on 6 hits in 6 innings, striking out 5 and walking 2. On the year, Duke has been a microcosm of the Pirates team. He's had 3 great starts of at least 6 innings, giving up 1 run or fewer in each. Unfortunately, he's also had 3 starts in which he's given up at least 5 runs in 5 or fewer innings. Who knows which Duke we'll see on Sunday? Let's hope for the bad Duke, to help us finish off a 3-game sweep.
Since ending their 9-game losing streak, the Braves are 13-6, tied for the 2nd best record in the NL over that stretch (the Dodgers are 15-4). Even better, the offense has scored 108 runs in those 19 games (5.7 runs/game), the most in the NL in that time. With Hinske playing more and every regular hitting decently in that stretch (except for Yunel Escobar), it sure looks as if Bobby Cox has hit on the right formula for this offense. And at 21-20, the Braves are now in the thick of the playoff race.
Note to the doomsayers--a 9-game losing streak in April does not mean the season is over.
The Pirates are obviously not built to win in 2010. They traded away half their roster last year with the ostensible purpose of acquiring good young players to build around. Unfortunately, there seems to be a major flaw in that plan. Namely, the Pirates are not that young, and the young players they do have (with the glaring exception of Andrew McCutchen) are not that good.
Obviously, McCutchen is a piece to build around. He's the complete package, a true 5-tool player who is already the Pirates' best player (by far). Beyond him, however, there's not much to go on. Their only other good regulars are Ryan Doumit and Garret Jones, both of whom are 29. Most of their pitchers are 27 or older, meaning that they are unlikely to get any better or be at their peak when the Pirates are finally good again.
The minor league system is not that impressive, either. They do have slugging 3rd baseman Pedro Alvarez, but aside from him they don't have a single player who looks like he'll be a difference maker. Most of their other prospects (including the many that they got in last year's trades) are either old for their level, underperforming, or both. That includes former Braves farmhands Jeff Locke, who is off to a good start this year but is repeating high A at age 22, and Gorkys Hernandez, who has a sub-.500 OPS in AA.
At 23, Andrew McCutchen is the Pirates' youngest player. In fact, he's the only player on their active roster who is younger than 25 and one of only 5 players younger than 27. By comparison, the Braves have 4 players younger than 25 and 11 (!!!) players younger than 27. And that's without counting Jair Jurrjens, who is still only 24. Aside from McCutchen, here are the Pirates' 4 other youngsters:
That's not too promising. LaRoche could be a decent starter for the next few years, and Morton isn't as bad as his ERA, but that is hardly the core of a future contender. And none of those guys are young enough to think they have much development time left, either. At this point, the best that Pirates fans can hope for is that when management inevitably trades Duke, Ohlendorf, Doumit, Jones, and Paul Maholm, that they get some real prospects in return.
By the way, the Braves' players under 27 include: Heyward (20), Kimbrel (21), Hanson (23), Medlen (24), Jurrjens (24), O'Flaherty (25), Venters (25), and Prado (26). Our farm system also features Freddie Freeman and a load of excellent pitching prospects. I'd say that not only are the Braves better than the Pirates now, they have a much brighter future ahead, too. In other words, we are contending and rebuilding at the same time. It's good to be a Braves fan right now, folks!
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GO BRAVES! SWEEP THE BUCCOS! (preferably not all walkoffs, but however you do it, just DO IT!)
and
When I read those 2 words, my first thought was “SlumpBuster” — and not in the baseball term…. As in, “Since I am in a slump, she is eminently doable.”
Vance in Sacramento - May 21, 2010
Can't walkoff in this series
since it’s in Pittsburgh.
Also, gross.
Jacob Peterson - May 21, 2010
cant walkoff — doh!
I’m still a little… we’ll say tired… from last night’s partying after my graduation…
Vance in Sacramento - May 21, 2010
What did you graduate from? And you better have had at least some celebration over the Braves’ incredible come from behind victory yesterday.
EricGreggWasPaidOff - May 21, 2010
Law School?
kreese555 - May 21, 2010
Should’ve gone to Med School instead….already too many lawyers. :-p
EricGreggWasPaidOff - May 21, 2010
I finished my Bachelors of Science in nursing…
As Smoltz’s Beard pointed out, I’m a murse…
Vance in Sacramento - May 21, 2010
I’m going to have to demand royalties on the use of ‘Crabs Medallion’.
EricGreggWasPaidOff - May 21, 2010
OK
I hereby award you with 5 Schrutebucks. Congrats.
Jacob Peterson - May 21, 2010
I will throw in 10 Stanley Nickels
The Devil Wears Prado - May 21, 2010
What’s the ratio of Schrute Bucks to Stanley Nickels?
dunnytwogloves - May 21, 2010
if you don’t know you cant afford one
The Devil Wears Prado - May 21, 2010
What's a ZJ?
kreese555 - May 21, 2010
I hope the Braves' hitters continue their patient approach against Ohlendorf tonight.
With the number of walks he’s given up already, Atlanta could have a lot of base runners tonight without even relying on hits.
EricGreggWasPaidOff - May 21, 2010
Lowe: 7-0 against Pirates. I say we sweep.
TonyAlmeyda - May 21, 2010
D. Lowe knows how to winz.
EricGreggWasPaidOff - May 21, 2010
Oh, how the Buckos have fallen...
Remember the days of the Killer B’s, Andy Van Slyke, and Wakefield throwing the knuckler? It really must suck to be a Bucko these days (I’ve been talking an older co-worker to jump off the Pirate bandwagon and join the Bravos).
I’ve been eyeing this series and we should/better make up some ground.
@ Pitt
@ Fish
Pitt
Philly
Sid Bream is walking a little taller this weekend.
Chesterhighwater - May 21, 2010 via mobile
Don’t forget Mike LaValliere. I blame Stand Belinda for losing that Series.
TradeAndruw - May 21, 2010
Hell...
I remember the days of Dave Parker, Willie Stargell and Roberto Clemente. Growing up, my best friend’s family moved to Georgia from Pittsburgh. The only time I saw a game live in the 60s and 70s was when I went with them to watch the Braves play the Pirates. Too bad I didn’t realize better then what I was seeing in Clemente.
I also remember the 80s when no one wanted to see the Braves. I worked in the hotel bar diagonally across from Fulton County Stadium. Businessmen would give us their tickets and we’d go over on our break as we couldn’t drink in our own bar (company rules).
But, yes, I remember the early 90s and the NLCS games against the Pirates. Oh the days of Bream in 92 lugging around the bases like he was dragging a parachute…
Old Braves' Fan - May 21, 2010
haha
Smoltz's Beard - May 21, 2010
Nice preview
I’m ready to get this series started!
Go Braves!
HEYJUDE - May 21, 2010
Odd...
the Pirates SBN blog hasn’t updated since yesterday afternoon. I can’t imagine TC being that slow and/or boring.
Scott Coleman - May 21, 2010 via mobile
Can you imagine us missing the playoffs 15 more years?
Weldon - May 21, 2010
Good point.
Scott Coleman - May 21, 2010 via mobile
Unfortunately,
Yes, I can. Still recall the nightmare that was the Braves in the 70s and most of the 80s (82 excepted).
Old Braves' Fan - May 21, 2010
Not only missing the playoffs...
They haven’t had a winning season since 1992. Frank Cabrera single-handedly killed that franchise when he drove in David Justice and Sid Bream in Game 7 of the ‘92 NLCS. They’ve been atrocious ever since.
AuditDawg - May 21, 2010
No kidding about McCutchen
That man is carrying my fantasy team.
Bravely going forward - May 21, 2010
He had a rough start to the year too.
Smoltz's Beard - May 21, 2010
This should be a good series and I am glad that the game I can not watch is the one with Lowe pitching.
romone_braves91 - May 21, 2010
How the Pirates got their name...
Late 1800’s – the Pittsburg Nationals signed Louie Bierbauer, who the Philadelphisa Phillies (who neglected to reserve Bierbauer) claimed as their own. The American Baseball Association charged the Pittsburg club with “piracy”. Later a board of arbitration awarded Bierbauer to Pittsburg. However, the charge of “piracy” stuck and the Pittsburg ballclub adopted the name “Pirates”.
This is from the internet so it has to be true.
Chesterhighwater - May 21, 2010 via mobile
If it is
that is AWESOME!
kreese555 - May 21, 2010
"Philadelphisa Phillies"
That’s right! Don’t show those Phillies enough respect even to spell the city name correctly! BOOOO PHILLIES! :)
EricGreggWasPaidOff - May 21, 2010
I think you're a bit harsh on the Pirates' overall process
They’re in either the second or third year of a new front office administration, and the previous one-and the one before that, for that matter-had no patience for appropriately developing talent. Neil Huntington inherited a system that was had very little talent at any level, beyond McCutchen, and he’s trying to put together a team that will compete in 2012.
Their minor league situation is not as bad as your portrayal, either. Pedro Alvarez was a great pick and is going to be a big time hitter, eventually, and Tony Sanchez is really raking in high A with the bat. He’s going to be a major leaguer and if his defense improves, he’ll be one of the better hitting catchers in the bigs. They’ve also got some nice pieces like Tabata, who will hit for average and play very good defense, and they’re holding out hope on Brad Lincoln still.
I think they’re making the right moves, given their budget constraints and the previous failures of their farm system, but they’ve had a lot of poor decisions made previously that they’re working to overcome. The next step for them is to get more money spent on scouting internationally because they’re way behind in the international market, too, and the hope is that they do a better job building internally.
Bronn - May 21, 2010
I don't think I was too harsh at all.
Look at the trades made in the past year (all by the current administration obviously). They got exactly 0 players in all those deals that have any chance of being better than average. Why trade those guys for so little? Either hold out for a better deal or take the eventual draft picks.
I said Alvarez is going to be good. I don’t buy Sanchez as a catcher—the reports I’ve heard on his defense are terrible. And I doubt he’ll hit well enough to be an above-average 1B. Tabata is much older than they thought when they traded for him, and isn’t that great anyway—an average regular at best. Brad Lincoln is 25 already and has a 3.83 ERA in AAA. He’s got some talent but who knows if he’ll ever be anything better than a #5 starter after all the arm troubles. Their next-best pitching prospect is probably Tim Alderson, and he’s getting creamed in his second year at AA (though he’s only 21). There’s really nothing much there to get excited about. Alvarez is the only guy that would make our top 5 prospects.
Granted, the previous administration left the farm system in a sad state, but aside from drafting Alvarez, the new guys have only improved the depth, not the top-end quality. I wouldn’t put their system in the top 20.
Jacob Peterson - May 21, 2010
I love Pirates.
Real pirates, that is. Well, not real real pirates. Non-baseball not real pirates.
sddbaker - May 21, 2010
Rrrrrrrrr!
Those kind of pirates?
Chesterhighwater - May 21, 2010 via mobile
We need a team called the Ninjas. Ninjas beat pirates.
Sparhawk - May 21, 2010
Go Braves.
I havent been around in a long time, but Go Braves.
NathanB - May 21, 2010
Braves don't have good farm system either
I don’t think the Braves have many prospects beyond pitchers in their system. Their only legitimate 2nd base prospect, Yoel Campusano, is now serving a 50 day suspension for testing positive for amphetamines. Campusano hit .288 last year but was hitting .192 this year for Class A Myrtle Beach.
Freddie Freeman is one of the few legitimate position player prospect at AAA. They have no real 3B or SS prospects. Cody Johnson and Adam Milligan are possible prospects in the outfield. Further down, Mycal Jones is struggling. Kyle Rose is a decent outfield prospect in the lower minors. Christian Bethancourt is thought to be a good catching prospect.
There is no replacement for Chipper in the minors. Donell Linares is a fringe player who could be a utility 3B.
Edward Salcedo has yet to play a minor league game, but might be considered a prospect who could eventually play 3B, but was signed as a shortstop.
There are mostly cast-offs and journeymen playing at AAA. J.C. Holt was released by the Braves and he was the only second baseman in the Braves organization who might have been considered a prospect beyond Campusano.
Pitching is another story though. Mike Minor, Julio Teheran, Arodys Vizcaino, etc. are solid prospects.
vernbickford - May 21, 2010
The Braves have an excellent farm system....
You do realize that those pitching prospects are far more valuable than the position player prospects, right? Pitching has always been the Braves’ developmental focus. They use their surplus pitching depth to trade for already developed position players.
EricGreggWasPaidOff - May 21, 2010
With all the youth coming up, I think the Braves have an active off season...
Schafer’s return lets us deal an OF or two. Minor’s rise allows for some of our starters to be dealt. Dunn, Gearrin, etc make guys like EOF, Chavez, etc expendable. We could have a lot of desirable pieces to make moves in the offseason, with the best part being we don’t have too many holes that would need filling so we can ask for a bushel of prospects in return, or package some together for a big time player.
Mr. Sanchez - May 22, 2010
Hey, hey....
No dealing EOF. He’s awesome. Chavez can go, though.
EricGreggWasPaidOff - May 22, 2010
How many lefties do we need?...
if Dunn is ready, with Venters, that gives us a bulk of lefties. And considering the premium for lefties, and the quality of EOF vs. Chavez, I’d say dealing the southpaw gives us a much better package in return. Plus, I think he’s about getting to arbitration and raises that make the cheaper Dunn and Venters (and Hyde, etc), much more cost effective for a club working under a mid market budget.
Mr. Sanchez - May 23, 2010
Who do you propose we trade?
I don’t see us trading any of our starters, except Lowe, if we can unload his salary. I don’t think there would be any takers for KK and I think he would be serviceable in a long relief/spot starter role. JJ, Hanson and Hudson are probably untouchable. Medlen has proven himself to be a viable 4th or 5th starter and with Minor progressing nicely, he could be ready for 2011. As shown already with JJ going down, you can never have too much pitching.
DawgB - May 22, 2010
Hanson and Huddy I'd consider untouchable...
JJ not so much. He’d demand a high price, and I’d prefer to keep him if possible. But say Lowe’s salary is still too prohibitive to move without eating a $10-15+ million, we’d still have the need to open up a spot for Minor. It’d almost be similar to dealing Vazquez. Of all the starters, you aren’t really wanting to move him, but he brings back a strong package and will not be a minimum salary after this season.
And we’d still have options if we dealt Jurrjens. You’d still have Medlen or Kawakami assuming Minor, Hanson, Hudson, and Lowe start. So that’s you’re 6th starter, there’s Ortegano, Diamond, Teheran might be ready by next year, among others.
Mr. Sanchez - May 23, 2010
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