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Open Thread 4/24: Braves at Mets Overflow

WE'RE WINNING!!!!!!!!

Braves lead the Mets 1-0 thanks to a David Ross single in the 6th. JJ has looked great so far.

Go Braves!
 

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thanks for the new thread

near collision in left

Communication on the field! Beautiful!

JJ high-five to David

answer, question, in, other, thread.

damn new threads with their music

BOTTOM SIXTH INNING. 1-0 Bravos.

Flyout to Diaz. 1 down.
Cora up.

Winning?

Have we done that before?

Ross

Awesome throw

Beauty bunt.

Better play by Ross! Two down.

ummm chip…the play wasnt really that close

So, what happened to Chipper?

Likeyly pulled something in upper right leg. Not certain.

just Chipper being Chipper

We get it already. Really, we do.

David Ross =

BEST backup catcher in baseball.

+1

Note even close, really

note = not
cheap too

we signed him for what….2yrs/3MM?

Something like that.

Too bad he’s going to leave after this year to go start somewhere. I’ll miss him.

Reyes now w/2 down.

Walk on 4 pitches.

I like this visit to the mound by Ross.

…and Blackjack joins them.

Lets go MESS. Let's go MESS.
79th pitch of his day...

Ball 2 to Bay.

how bout some strikes

Ross throws one into CF

ugh

Damnit Rossy. Better throws to 2nd man.

Ugh

That was not so good.

seven straight…

Yuck – stolen base (almost got him), but throw gets away (again).
Reyes to third.

Do ever stop a ball from going into center field??????

Maybe NOW we can focus on the batter.

Melky taking his time

there

He wasn't going to catch it

better to get in fielding position for the carom

He couldn’t have gotten that anyways.

Off the CF wall – Double – TIE GAME

2-out walks…mother fucker

and this feels like last night all over again

FUCK!

I hate Reyes….I hate him so much.

I hate him more than the Mwts fans hate chipper. And that’s saying a lot!

Agh. Right down the middle.

Right Down the Middle.
Wright down for third out.

i appreciate the play-by-play since i’m not seeing/hearing the game

=)

Here's a radio feed

http://player.cumulusstreaming.com/SLPLayer.aspx?WMSP-AM

thanks

and i was listening earlier, but i find out from here what happens before i hear it, and i can’t stand that.

thanks all the same

Muts fans booing their franchise player

what a bunch of douchebags. I’d hate my life if I had to live in NYC.

Seriously

I think it’s terrible that our fans booed Glaus… Them booing Wright is 100x worse. Unbelievable

What. The. Fruit. Cups.

Jurrjens up to 83 pitches.

Can we PLEASE get JJ the lead back?

He doesn’t deserve this again.
Our pitchers must be able to allow 1 run and not fear losing a game.

just noticed your sig

i like it

he deserves his first CG
i don't like it when i run out of websites to check
that's a terrible feeling

textsfromlastnight.com?

how do they get these things?!

cracked…deadspin…lamebook

cracked is funny.

i like their 5 scariest bugs

what happened?

Bay double scored Reyes.

Do something here Esco.

Poor JJ. We give Lowe ALL the run support!

OK it's still Acosta

Now we’ll start to hit right?

TOP SEVENTH INNING

Esco, Prado. Glaus.

It'll cost ya still in

Grove one of those straight arrows to Yunel

need some inning summaries...

cmon now, share the wealth!

A 4-pitch walk to Reyes was cashed in after a SB and double by Bay.

escobar left a run on the board in the 5th when he didn't tag up from 3rd.

poop and pee

Fights off 0-2 curve.

JJ might be getting tired and that’s why he’s givin up hits.

you mean hit, singular

Only 1 hit in the inning. Just a bad pitch, he’s fine.

If our offense wasn't so pathetic

we’d be up 3-1, 4-1 or maybe even 5-1. Poor JJ.

Acosta

carving us up

Slower curve gets Yunel. 1 down.

Really? It’s MannyafrickinCosta

Fuckhead with a K

the animosity is really making me laugh

you mean Fucknuts

is that what Beard called him? either oneworks IMO

lol yeah I thought it was one of you two

Shit

lost the sat feed due to the rain, need play by play

Escobar Kd swinging

Manny Acosta for Cy Young award?
I seriously

think our team could make Jo Jo look like Sandy Koufax. lol

now comes the part where we make acosta look like eckersley

Have you never seen him pitch before?

This is what he does. Look great, then look terrible.

And here comes the "terrible"
our offense is not working at all

we can’t even hit acosta

Nuts not working...let's try this.

As soon as I left TC to make lunch, we scored. Should I leave again…?

go make a sandwich
haha, have you seen the tv-version of dumb and dumber

instead of saying “right on my ass after you kiss it!” he says “right on my SANDWICH!” it’s hilarious

3-1 to prado

he walks

Prado is an on-base machine!

Has Prado been crying?

if i were prado, i would be too

Prado with a walk.

ODARP

In his eyes twice…. balls 1 & 2.
Strike down the middle.
Ball 3 outside.
I guess that next one was outside.

GLAUS

1 on, 1 out.
Outside… at least the call is consistent…. Ball one.
Blanco explaining the calls to his pitcher.

Further outside… here we go Acostoooo…

Come on sat

damn rain

Okay…I shall leave…
Before I go…SOMEONE invent a clone machine so we can clone Heyward and Prado!

I kinda figured Acosta would shut us down

You must forget when he pitched for us. This is what he does.

CHIP SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT BARK IN THE PARK DAY

Even Joe is sighing now… trying to keep his cool and ignore him.

just curious

did he say anything about Chipper’s injury really “barking”?

Ha, no I don’t believe so.

Can’t he just shut the fuck up in general?

Blanco still trying to prevent a melt-down.

The dogs don’t seem to be interested in the game.

Stop saying walkway

Mr. Walkway. Mr. Walk down me I’m the walkway. Lead me to the building fuck you

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skCV2L0c6K0

Heyward could face Acosta this inning. Oh yes. Give him a hanging slider and he’ll give you a 450foot shot.

Take strike 2 (which always comes after a mound meeting)
and swing at ball 4

Correction: ALSO swing at ball 5 for strikeout, throw ’em out.
Inning over.

Fuck you Troy
That wasn't his fault

He was trying to protect Martin, but the ball was in the dirt. What’s he supposed to do?

not swing at the ball a foot off the plate?

It was a hit and run

And he couldn’t know what the ump was going to do

but there were three balls and that wasnt close…i disagree

I question the HnR call in the first place…

Somehow

Glaus another DP

Somehow...

I wonder if he’s trying for every possible DP variation….

More Glaus double plays…awesome

At least he's gotten creative with them

No simple GIDP for Glaus. The man is an artist

CHRIST ON A CRUTCH
fuck fuck fuck terrible
Still Glaus

Strike…. maybe JUST inside those first 2 balls.
Almost same pitch – fouled back – full count.
OH TROY!
Hit-n-run double play: Strike out/Throw out.

Bobby:

Please stop doing the hit and run with high-strikeout guys at the plate. That is all.

wth was that..

even censoring your acronyms...

you’re a saint!

Put that one on Bobby, everyone

It was a dumb call to put on the hit and run there. Troy had no chance to hit that ball.

But some plate discipline would have been good – like NOT SWINGING at BALL FOUR.

Do you think it’s that easy? You try it.

Ideally you don’t swing at balls you have no chance to hit.

Ideally

you don’t put the hit and run on with a high-K guy at the plate

Never said it wasn’t a dumb call.

Come on JJ…another strong inning kid.

BOTTOM OF THE SEVENTH. Tied up.


Stretch time. You too, Chipper.

With this offense, it seems it would be a harder sell to convice pitchers to come to our team.
Good thing we're not signing pitchers right now
OK, now you guys are just being melodramatic.

Unlike our broadcaster in the booth.

Ike Davis vs. JJ.
2 balls. 3 balls. WALK.

Just wants to get to David Wrong
gah

meant to say FYF

Lead off walks kill

ugh

Ugh

leadoff walk? really?

maybe we can get the glaus sucks comments again, the last time we did that? He hit a 2-run HR in the 9th inning

I think it goes without saying at this point.

4-pitch leadoff walk…ugh.

Francouer Triple

we lose

ARE YOU FUCKING WITH ME!?

ANOTHER TRIPLE!? WTH?

FUCK THIS SHIT

Get JJ outta there

Yeah, now we can say that he's done... Crap
Franceour

Doubles in Davis; takes third on the ill-advised throw home.
2-1 Mets, 1 out.

I really hate to say this but....

ballgame?

If you hate that so much

Don’t freaking say it.

my bad…positivity forgot

Sac Fly

See Escobar that is how it works

Oh hey look…even Francine tags up!

Sac Fly: 3-1 Mets

Diaz tried, but throw was off line.

When was the last time we had a throw on line?
I have been less than pleased with our throwing abilities of late – either direction.

Seriously

We’re out of whack in all phases of the game (except pitching)

This.

The throws from home go into center field. The throws from center field (or left or right) go up the first or third base lines.

I’m trying to stay positive – but we’ve had no chance of late throwing out baserunners.

Positivity

Our old retread scurbs have looked good for the Muts. Maybe they will start loading up on them (ie D. Lowe).

Since the Mets fans hate Wright so much

how about Wright for Lowe straight up? I like it.

Manny Acosta is now in line to WIN this game....

Did I get an electrical shock when I was working on my DVR earlier and phase into an alternate reality?

Why does Catalanotto sound familiar?

Did he have a relative on the Dodgers in the 80’s or something?

its probably the same guy

Is there a way to look that up Pac?

Catalanotto…

Is JJ still eligible for the JVL?

Can’t remember if it is 2 or 3 runs allowed

2

So no

Also I'm pretty sure he has a negative WPA

blowing a lead tends to do that

-.132

oh well

i'm at a loss with advanced metrics

what is WPA?

Win Probability Added

It’s the sum of the probability changes of the team winning the game for all the plays (kinda) the particular player was involved in during the game.

hell he could get a CG JVL

if he gets out of here quick enough

Better start warming up the fat lady…

The Braves just plain suck right now

Good thing we’re only 17 games in.

A .500 April will be good enough. Soft schedule in May, hopefully…HOPEFULLY…the guys start heating up.

I thought

The Mets were part of the soft schedule

Not really

They’re not that bad, despite all the crap we give them

well currently

they are last in the division.

We will be after today

And currently it’s April. Chill out.

Mets in NY are never easy. The only easy series we have are Padres (well, they were at the time) and Astros.

The mets in between Giants, Padres, Rockies, Phils, and Cards

Does not a soft schedule make.

That's the April schedule.

He said May.

On paper we should be winning, no doubt about it.

+1

I think this is exactly what will happen. I just hope all the negative nancies turn more positive when that happens.

But it’s rather bothersome when you think about the fact that:
 The Nats have played the Phillies twice so far and they have a better record than we do.

the way we are playing though we still have 6 days left in April to not finish .500 too…

Ha, very true. Just trying to keep it positive.

HEY! we've got this! We did it to the Phils. We can do it to the MUTS!

jk. I really don’t think we do, but i’m trying out this optimist thing

you’re hilarious?

is he?
no?
What? you don't believe the braves will win?
haha, i thought the ? was interesting
What do you not think we're gonna win?
hey man, stop being so pessimistic!
this is bullshit we can't even win the series to the mets against not too good pitchers! CRAP
At least JJ worked to the 7th

not bad

and might get the loss

ANOTHER WALK!?

PULL JJ NOW!!!

JJ walks Pagan

ugh

Walk – and now Bobby’s walking.

ANOTHER WALK…UGH

Poor JJ

i feel bad for him. he’s thrown gems his last 2 starts and the offense doesn’t do shit for him.

WAY TO GO STUD.

I wonder how the pitchers feel about pitching for the braves.

They pitch very well and hardly ever have anything to show for it

go away
STFU! Don't reply to my comments if you don't like them. I pretty sure i'm not the only one

on the site that has negative shit to say asshole.

FIGHT

Looks like a Scout vs. a Soldier….doesn’t seem evenly matched.

A good scout always beats a good soldier.

Pretty solid start all things considered.

Cant ask for better honestly

+1

not his fault the offense, defense, and baserunning are terrible

I didnt expect much from this line up its horrible

JJ is going to ask wren for a trade!

hey man, don't say negative shit. BMacAttack will get pissed!
gameday on mlb

“atlanta braves 3rd basemen Chipper Jones has left the game due to an injured head” what happened?

head?

I’m pretty sure it was his leg

i thought so… says head though

*insert joke from NCChopper hear about a “head”

He thinks he can still play ooooooooooooh that was below the belt

They’re confusing him with what is gonna happen to Escobat after the game.

when is the offense going to turn around and give the pitching staff run support?

When

Melky is benched
Glaus starts hitting a fastball
Mclouth gets a little lucky
Yunel pulls his head out of his ass

Don't be ridiculous

When those guys just stop being unlucky, that’s when we’ll be fine. Though I agree about Yunel’s head and his ass.

Melky did have a hit today…but yea.

Melky

is hitting the best of our OFs right now. Sad but true

funny

One double is all his lately

But Heyward has a single today too

Melky singled last night in the 9th

Heyward is 1 for his last a lot. Melky is 2 for his last 4.

4 PA sample size, FTW!

I said "right now"

How is that not clear to you people?

The fact that it’s a vague statement?

is it just me or is heyward taking TOO many pitches….i feel like he’s been in an 0-1, 0-2 hole for an entire week

Probably something to that
Sounds like something new for you to research...
I dunno...

Are you talking about very recent, due to Heyward going back into strikeout mode?

Also, Nate has looked better lately (but not yesterday). Melky has definitely been hitting best in this Mets series, though… :(

Yes

hence “right now”

do you have any info on schafer’s wrist progress?

i don’t think he’s started swinging bats yet

I’m sad.

I'm contemplating taking another run at that case of beer. But I'll need friends for motivation...
The game is almost over

you need more support?

Eh, just friends actually. Haha

I’m in Nashville doing the whole “writing thing” and everyone I know is back home. Not fun.

EOF now pitching

Inning over, finally.

Like mvhsbball said, start the Glaus hate cuz last time we did that he homered.

I said that
Oopsie

The braves suckiness affected my memory.

Grounder to third – end of inning.
We’re behind 3-1 after seven.

Our offense is depressing

7th finally ends

We're only 2 runs down... we can DO THIS!

I’ve seen it before. It can happen!

where's NCChopper?!

rally caps, son!

that should be “daughter.”

oh wow, really? i guess that saying about assumptions is right…

I think we need a different rally cap graphic

the last one is broken

It's not over.

Photobucket

10/10

Would buy again!!!

Did Riley get one with text on it? Or did I forget to send it?

yeah I got that one. I just need to save it to the photobucket. i just wanted to get one up quick for the 4-run rally we’re about to have.

I was just afraid I forgot it. Good.
Riley is our good luck charm!!

see y'all later!

go braves!

maybe riley could be new rally guy!
Diaz base hit

alright

Good start for the 8th! A single from Diaz!
Matty D with a nice hit!

Does anyone else miss Skip and Pete?

do you need to ask?

sheesh

no. who are they?

Slippery Pete?

Holes! I need HOLES!

Tying run to the plate!

Don’t jinx it, everyone…

LOLMelky

doing the 1-handed swing

doing his best Andruw impression

7 of our 9 lobs…..were in scoring position

“You don’t know nothin’ bout my LOBs!” – Braves Offense

Melky back to form

People on base he is totally useless

Of course I guess that is the whole team

Yeah

Even J-hey is having trouble with RISP now…

Though that ENDS HERE
yeah

thats when the losses started piling up

MELKY

2-2 count. Fouled out to Wright. 1 down.

Lefty in to face Heyward?
Heyward

… and a pitching change.

Ha. Ha. Ha.

Jason Heyward. A 20-year old rookie that makes opposing managers bring in a LOOGY just for him.

No play for mr. grey…..rejjjjeeeccteeddddd

Gah..

I hate that commercial. It’s so stupid.

Whats the score? Not watching….

we’re winning 9-4

come on’….do you expect him to believe that??? maybe like 2-1

J-Hey...use some of your magic to bring us back!

COME ON JAY HEY!!

Diaz is batting the best of our OFers right now!

Small sample size FTW?

Take him the other way

Come on Heyward

that didn't look like a strike
Sad

This looks like last year to me…… I don’t understand this team right now, if there’s gonna be any chance this year they need to turn this around. Can’t keep this up.

Not possible

to keep this up. It is unsustainable. So don’t worry.

Heyward beat out the DP!

+"Matt Diaz is a baseball player!"

Way to run it out

jason did not hit into the double play

Grounder to third – beats out the double play attempt.

This fool ump.
Those first 2 strikes were NOT.

And lookey what actually running to 1st base can get you.

looking at gameday

all three of those were strike-pitches =(

This camera angle sucks then.

Heck it looks like 2008. We lose and we’re lime in last place.

This team

is so much better than the 2008 team that it’s not even funny.

Yes.

Maybe someone should tell them that, though.

what the hell are you talking about now?

Lime??

I DIDNT TYPE THAT

maybe escobar can learn from Heyward
Heck...

The whole team could learn something from Heyward.
Heyward can do ANYTHING!
maybe he can magically heal Chipper’s injury!

Come on guys.
Sometimes I feel like the braves don’t even care about winning and they’re just playing…

Wow

You are ignorant.

Heap on deck if Ross can extend – and h WALKS.
Two on.

well if we don't get anything going this inning. Maybe we can put somethign together next inning

K-Rod looked real shaky last night. Let’s hope for more of the same.

BMac to face a lefty. Hmmm…

would you prefer Conrad?

Yeah

no good options there at all.

oh yeah

I was thinking Infante was on the bench. fail

infante

its hard to pinch hit when you are already in the game

You remember he started the game, right?

whoops didn't know he was in the game
BMac in to pinch hit with 2 on and 2 outs!
mccann??? really?
Come on Heap - make us scream!
soft liner to SS

inning over

FUCK YOU REYES!

I HATE REYES! I HATE HIM! I HATE HIM!

he didn’t need to dive….asshole

Did he get up and first pump his chest again too?

I wouldn’t be surprised if he did.

Ooooohhhhh – Reyes robs us.

Damn! that ball wasn't hit as hard as i thought it was at first
this is not funny anymore
Was it funny at some point?

How is us losing funny?

that ball was way outside =/

Mac trying to hit like Philly right there.

CRAP.
Right now…we’re playing like it’s the 80s. Or 1990.

Reyes with the "Play of the game"? WTH?

I swear, Joe/Chip sound more like Mets announcers at times.
I love ‘em and I realize we’re not giving them much to celebrate of late – but geez.

The PotG

should have been Escobar not tagging up

Medlen really missed his target there…it should’ve been about 18 inches higher.

It’s not like WE made any great plays.

wow I hate his mannerisms and pretty much everything he does at the plate

dont worry

I hate Reyes too =)

It’s not like Escobar doesn’t do the same shit

lol and right now fucknuts is pissing me off too

great pitch, medlen..

SIT THE FUCK DOWN JOSE.

I hate Jose Reyes!!
Meds Gets Reyes

REYES DIDN'T GET ON BASE!?

INCONCEIVABLE!

Sweet defense.

I feel like we could have our own section of Sportcenter’s “Not So Top 10”

Ugly

Someone speak Spanish

I don't think either one

ever really saw the ball. Which sucks, obviously

Who needs someone who speaks Spanish....

When you’ve got google translate!

Good job Meds covering second

Melky

You got to call for that

He may not have seen it well enough…. my guess anyway.

either way

CF’ ball his responsiblity

Yeah

I don’t think either one knew where it was

It showed Melky looking at Infante like he was waiting for him to catch it though.

Are you kidding?

First the offense doesn’t show up to play….ok….that’s fine. We expect that. But now, the defense isn’t showing up either! Do they WANT to lose?

Why even ask this question?

If I were a Braves player, I’d be offended at the implication.

If I were a Braves fan (and I am), I’d be offended at having to ask.

Why do you have to ask?

Put yourself in their shoes. Come on. Do you think they like losing? Aren’t they clearly having a hard time right now? You’re being ridiculous

It's called frustration...

Stop being so calm and rational all the time.

I Don't Get It

This team is really making it hard for me to keep faith in them.

It helps

If you actually had faith to begin with

Are you implying I never had any?

Not really

Just that it seems like a lot of people have been pessimistic from the beginning and never really gave these guys a chance.

I thought

Defense does not go into slumps

Sure it does: e.g: Escobar.

Yeah that's

 a huge fallacy

I think we need David Eckstein

“fists”

Infante

nice play Vidro

Yay...no more runs for Mets. Time to kill K-Rod!?

Assuming he comes in…

We needed that! Finally defense helps the pitcher.

Not even a slick vidro can make me happy. Sigh…

someone explain to me...

…why Bobby would put melky & matt aka mush & muck in the middle of our lineup?

Did you sign up just to complain?

I still believe we can win this thing!

K-rod was tired last night. We will kill him.

TOP OF THE ORDER... RALLY TIME

bay didnt try to reach the base…isnt that a rule where he should be automatically out at first?

I hear witty k-rod jokes are good luck...
BMacAttack.. HereComesBream keeps saying negative shit, you should get on to him.
Mad that someone called you out on the intertubes?

Someone is angwy

thought about it.. but I didn’t have 9 innings of it from him in my ear.

I try to be positive. But sometimes there’s nothing to be positive about. Everyone else is being negative, too.

Byee people. This obviously can’t get any worse.i

Rally Time! Top of the order! Let's get it started Infante
"Get Otis Nixon back."

LOL

Why couldn't Reyes have dropped that?

pretty sure all 4 of those were up…but who knows

I’m thinking the same thing.

No problem - we've scored runs with 1 out before...

Ouch – statistic:
7 runners left at 2nd or 3rd base so far today.

Braves offense averaging 8 LOBs and 8 Ks per game....
Escobar needs a triple....

He would’ve gotten lost on the way there.

Why couldn't Bay have collided with Reyes there?
Escobar

2-2 count. Fastball fouled straight back.
Curve…. Reyes gets it and avoids Bay.
2 out.

Really wanted a collision there...
Our entire organization sucks

In the early going.

Yes I really disagree with Wren’s moves these first two weeks of the season

Reyes with the last 3 putouts for us… can we please hit it to someone else.

Keep it alive Prado

1 fucking run of niese and crew
What a trainwreck
Manny Acosta is the winning pitcher.

I’m going kill myself now.

Kill me too.

need some inspired baseball tomorrow.
There IS no positive spin on this unless it's JJ's performance.

Which was wasted yet again.

Sooner or later we’re not going to be able to say… “it’s only April” anymore.

Maybe tomorrow they’ll play better and keep us from being swept by the Mutts.

I really hope we can stop wasting these pitching performances. That worries me more than anyone’s hitting slumps.

only 2 problems with the Braves

so far this year: Offense and Defense. Other than that, we’re awesome.

Well that makes sense.

we're in last place in the nl east
Are we allowed to worry yet?

This team has massive problems right now. This offense is a joke.

I don’t think it’s to that point yet, but this team definitely needs to turn it around PRONTO.

we are in last place in the division, never thought of that

Behind the nationals…
So much for winning one for Bobby. Spring training was good. We were in first place a few times during spring, believe it or not.
This is just sad. I wonder what we’ll be like when Bobby leaves…

A good series of games can potentially put the Braves back in second place (or even first) in a week. Yes, the team sucks right now, but moaning like “Oh we’re in last place we’ll never get out of this hole we’re doomed!!!11” doesn’t help anything. Everyone is still within three games of each other, so as long as the Braves are within striking distance, there really shouldn’t be any complaining.

+1000

I was thinking the same thing….the 3 game difference between 1st and 5th place in the NL East….but I was still too disparaged from watching today’s game to write it up. Thanks for posting that.

Well...

As bad as I feel, looking at my fantasy squad I saw this line from my 1B so far this season:

.117 AVG. .524 OPS, 2 HR, 7 RBI, 7 Hits in 60 AB’s

That’s Mark Texeira. I as well as everybody is sure about one thing, and that’s that Tex will turn it around. But still, I’m going to keep “hoping” that this dude:

.167 AVG. 515 OPS, 2 HR, 9 RBI, 9 Hits in 54 AB’S

Turns it around too. Not at Tex level, but at least to a “decent” level. And that’s Mr. Troy Glaus.

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