This upcoming series the Braves face the Phillies in Atlanta -- believe it or not, it's the fifth series of the year and the first time we're facing an NL East team. The Phillies come in as the top team in the NL East, but the Marlins tamed them in the last two games of their series together. To help us get a better picture of what the Phills look like this year we go behind enemy lines with blogger Peter Baker of the Phillies blog The Good Phight.
Q: The injuries have already hit your team. Which injury will have the biggest impact on the Phillies, Jimmy Rollins, Joe Blanton, or Brad Lidge? Or potentially J.A. Happ?
A: So much depends on who's injured the worst, and how long they're injured, but it's likely to be Jimmy Rollins. Although he had a pronounced down season in 2009, Rollins was red-hot out of the gate this season. He's a plus-plus defender and has great power for a middle infielder, even if his on-base skills leave something to be desired. Calf strains are notoriously tricky, and particularly for a guy whose speed is such a big part of his game, this is something that's likely to hinder his performance even if/when he does return to the lineup.
As for Lidge, this team made it to the sixth game of a World Series with Brad Lidge posting arguably the worst relief pitching season ever. Plug whomever you want in the closer role; they're unlikely to be worse than Lidge 2009.
The Blanton thing is touch-and-go. He seemed poised for a big season this year, and oblique injuries are also tricky. With the recent news about J.A. Happ, the rotation is suddenly looking very thin. Someone call Pedro Martinez pronto.

Q: The Phillies have gotten off to a hot start, but it's been against hapless teams like the Nats and 'Stros. When you finally faced a decent team, you lost the series to the Marlins and your offense was shutdown. What have you learned about the Phillies from the first two weeks of the season? Can they compete with good teams?
A: I'm having a really hard time processing the portion of the question about whether the Phillies can "compete with good teams." First, this is a team whose core has been to the last two World Series, winning one of them. Of course they can "compete with good teams." When the Braves got no-hit on Saturday, did that prove that they wouldn't hit good pitching all season?
Second, there was one three game series against the Marlins, for crying out loud, and two games where the offense took the day off. Look, the Phillies' offense is not the unstoppable juggernaut that was plating 8+ runs a game for the first three series, nor are they the lame bozos of the last two games in the Florida series. It's a really, really good lineup; two bad games do not change that.
Plus, it's worth noting that the Washington Nationals are 4-2 in their non-Phillies games this season. Small sample sizes are a bitch, huh?
Q: Journeyman fill-in Juan Castro has done great for the Phillies so far. Is there any reason to think that he can keep this up? Can you point to anything to explain the hot stats of Placido Polanco and Chase Utley?
A: No. He's a really bad Major League baseball player. Anyone can have a few good games and he's only hit a couple of balls really hard so far. I'm just hoping he'll be able to catch the ball and collect a hit now and then until Rollins gets back.
Chase Utley: He's one of the five best players in baseball, that's why he's doing so well.
Placido Polanco: The step-down in talent level from the American League to National League probably has something to do with it. Plus, contact hitters like Polanco are more likely to benefit from good luck BABIP-driven hot streaks. He's hitting .373 on balls in play so far, which won't hold. I'm actually more pleased with his defense at third base; I was worried coming into the season that he wouldn't be able to cut it defensively at the hot corner after not playing the position regularly since 2005. He's shown himself to be more than up to the task.
Q: You're obviously happy with the acquisition of Roy Halladay, but why did the Phillies get rid of Cliff Lee?
A: Sigh. There are budget issues, obviously, and a decision from the front office to try to restock the farm system. One can question the quality of the haul they got back for Cliff Lee, though. We'll never know if Lee would have suffered the injuries that are keeping him on the shelf for the first month of the season had he not left Philadelphia.
Generally, the Phillies knew they could afford one "ace" and had every indication that Lee was looking for a big free agent payday after 2010 (i.e., only the Yankees and maybe Red Sox could pay him). In the alternative, they knew they could lock Roy Halladay in at a below market rate for several years. In that sense, the "trade" was perfectly reasonable.
Would I have kept Lee for the 2010 season? Probably. Don't forget he would have netted the team two draft picks if he'd signed elsewhere for 2011. But I am sympathetic to the path that Ruben Amaro, Jr. took. I want this team to be good for awhile, not just one or two more seasons.
Q: What area of the the Phillies concerns you the most? Which area concerns you the least?
A: Biggest concern: Now, the starting rotation. The Phillies are relying on two very, very scary pitchers in Kyle Kendrick and Jamie Moyer to pitch 40% of their games in the early going. And with the latest news about J.A. Happ, it's looking more and more like Roy Halladay and Cole Hamels, and cover your eyes, at least until Joe Blanton gets back.
I'm also very concerned with Raul Ibanez, and whether he can hold up for the rest of the season, much less through 2011.
Least concern: The offense. This team will score plenty of runs.
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He seemed to get a little over-defensive when asked if they could compete with good teams. Just what you’d expect from a Philthies writer.
Fischerking - April 20, 2010
I think anyone would of responded that way to that question. Like he said, they did go to the World Series the past two seasons.
bwellnjonesco - April 20, 2010
I agree. The question was just asking for a fight.
murph3 - April 20, 2010
You mean phight
DogDaysofSummer - April 20, 2010
haha
bwellnjonesco - April 20, 2010
lol
def a ‘prodding’ question.. and PHight is right… see the name? haha
PHIGHTINPHILS - April 20, 2010
Purely a provoking question. I think pointing out that the phils have a winning record against a team with a winning record when not playing the Phils was applicable. You poked, you got growled at. Lesson learned?
Bilzo - April 20, 2010
The lesson learned is that it’s only the third week of the season, and records aren’t too important.
Also, Phillies phans don’t growl,,,it’s more of an annoying purr.
bwellnjonesco - April 20, 2010
exactly. It’s a catch-22. If the Phils had swept the Marlins (which obviously didn’t happen), then they could be viewed as a “bad” team as well. It’s too early to be assessing the records of opponents.
Except..I think it’s safe to say the Astros are realllly reallly bad.
Bilzo - April 20, 2010
Poor stros, one thing that Braves/Phils fans/phans agree on is how bad they are, haha…
bwellnjonesco - April 20, 2010
I knew the Stros would be terrible this year
But they’ve been even worse than I thought they would be. They need Berkman back so badly. The good news is that Carlos Lee and Hunter Pence won’t continue to hit around .100. But that’s not much consolation. Can you say “Trade Deadline Fire Sale”? Anyone want an Oswalt? He’s bargain-priced to sell quickly!
Jacob Peterson - April 20, 2010
the truly funny (phunny? ok i’ll stop) thing is this… like half of that stro’s lineup are phillies has-beens! lol mike bourn, feliz, brett “the i don’t hit my wife, i discipline her” myers… good old ed wade…
PHIGHTINPHILS - April 20, 2010
I guess the Stros are to the Phils as the Royals are to the Braves…
bwellnjonesco - April 20, 2010
Ed Wade says “hi”.
Bilzo - April 20, 2010
Yeah, I threw that out there to see if he’d respond defensively and make excuses or respond with offensive aggression. He obviously chose the latter. Just testing the waters.
gondeee - April 20, 2010
Or just being deliberately provocative. Heeheehee.
Tokyokie - April 20, 2010
Did you do one of these too? Is Peter Whole Camels?
TradeAndruw - April 20, 2010
Just be happy he took time away from his Bobby Cox bashing to answer the questions.
Bobby Cocks - April 20, 2010 via mobile
Chase Utley is in no way, shape, or form one of the 5 best players in baseball. Is he better than Pujols, A-Rod, Gonzalez, Texieria, Ramirez, Halladay, Sabathia, etc. Not a chance in hell.
BrunscoBrave - April 20, 2010
You're wrong.
jtw126 - April 20, 2010
If you add in positional value at 2B
He probably is.
Scott Coleman - April 20, 2010 via mobile
well
this year he might have some competition
drumzalicious - April 20, 2010
Halladay?
You mean Lincecum?
Bmacbandwagon - April 20, 2010
Absolutely.
DogDaysofSummer - April 20, 2010
He wears the Snuggie so he can use his hands to smoke his pot…and be warm at the same time!
bashby20sh - April 20, 2010
I'ts just as efficient as his pitching!
DogDaysofSummer - April 20, 2010
Sweet apostrophe placement brah.
sigh
DogDaysofSummer - April 20, 2010
at first i read this and thought you were a dick, and then i saw that you posted it about yourself haha nice
McGriff the Crime Dog - April 20, 2010
Yes
he is better than Gonzalez, Teixeira, Halladay, and Sabathia.
BravesRaleigh - April 20, 2010
Agree
traphicg - April 20, 2010 via mobile
Agree
traphicg - April 20, 2010 via mobile
It's actually a bit comical
That he went to Gonzalez when he was listing the top 5 players in the game.
It’s possible to make at least an argument that Utley isn’t a top 5 player, but he did it poorly.
1) Pujols 2) Joe Mauer 3) Hanley Ramirez 4) Alex Rodriguez 5) Tim Lincecum.
You could perhaps throw Longoria in there as well, but that’s more of a projection based on his age. Regardless, though, it’s not at all silly of him to put him Utley in the top 5. Not many guys post consecutive 7+ WAR years.
Bronn - April 20, 2010
If I were building a team to try and win this year
I would chose Chutley over everyone on that list except for Pujols. So yes, I would consider him a top 5 player in baseball. (I’d probably choose Mauer over him as well, but that’s about it).
Although the reply to the answer was a bit arrogant.
soup du jour - April 20, 2010
Position players…easy. If you take pitchers into account, then it becomes a question.
Smoltz's Beard - April 20, 2010
Chase Utley is no worse than the 4th best player in baseball
Pujols is obviously #1, A-rod is probably still better than Utley. And you could make a case for Hanley Ramirez. Gonzalez and Teixeira aren’t even close to Utley’s value. I don’t think you can put a SP in the top 5 unless they are just having historic seasons every year (like vintage Maddux or Pedro). The closest one would be Lincecum, not Halladay or Sabathia. But all of those guys are clearly below Utley.
If it were me, I’d rank Utley #2. He’s a force offensively and defensively, and he plays a premium position. How on earth does Mark freakin’ Teixeira beat that? Sheesh.
Jacob Peterson - April 20, 2010
Oh, I forgot Joe Mauer (dumb)
Mauer might slot above Utley too (though it’s close). Still, he’s gotta be top 5.
Jacob Peterson - April 20, 2010
Just curious, why is it that you dismiss pitchers so quickly? Grienke, Verlander, and Lincecum all had WARs up there with Pujols.
Smoltz's Beard - April 20, 2010
Well
because it’s so hard for a SP to put up that kind of WAR reliably from year to year, and because the injury risk is so much greater. Greinke was great last year, but it was the first year he’d put up a WAR in that territory, and may well be his last. Same deal with Verlander—he’s an ace, but until he’s putting up 8 WAR years regularly like Utley does, I don’t see it.
Lincecum, as I said, is the closest thing. If he can stay healthy and put up the same numbers for the next 2-3 years, then he’d make the list.
Jacob Peterson - April 20, 2010
That’s what I figured.
Smoltz's Beard - April 20, 2010
Also
Pitchers only play 30-35 games a year. Most of those players play at least 150 games.
sag969 - April 20, 2010
No shit, that still doesn’t effect their WAR though.
Smoltz's Beard - April 21, 2010
Thanks for McNabb Philly!
TradeAndruw - April 20, 2010
You a 'Skins fan?
GT Braves - April 20, 2010
He is my absolutely most hated person in professional sports. Just throwing that out there.
JKowalek - April 20, 2010 via mobile
Michael Vick? Barry Bonds? who you talkin bout?
BravesRaleigh - April 20, 2010
I have 3 dogs and 755 is still my number but I like both of them. I’d go 1. Mcnabb 2. Sean Marshall(ex BC basketball player, cubbies marshall is getting there) 3. Roy Williams(unc coach) 4. Ryan Howard 5. ARod/Chad Johnson
JKowalek - April 20, 2010 via mobile
He can’t be worse than Jason Campbell.
TradeAndruw - April 20, 2010
why mcnabb?
Doghnut - April 20, 2010
Odd list...
and I assume fandom accounts for most of it, as by all accounts several of those you list—McNabb, Williams, Howard, are all good folks.
Mr. Sanchez - April 20, 2010
Howard’s a good guy and mcnabb is too. I feel that he is the most overrated player in the NFL and everyone and their brother where I’m from think he’s gods gift to football. Chad and ARod for obvious reasons. Marshall was the only player that could shut down JJ everyminute of a game while at Duke. And Roy is not a good person at all. As a lifelong Dukie I can assure the man lies to anyone and everyone. calls out players that don’t commit. Kicks opposing fans out of games for cheering and on and on.
JKowalek - April 20, 2010 via mobile
Now wait just a damn minute. Roy Williams? He’s not even the most hated college basketball coach in the state of North Carolina. Give me a break.
FeartheChop - April 20, 2010
Well, as a Duke fan I view it the exact opposite and think he is.
JKowalek - April 20, 2010 via mobile
?
You obviously don’t live in NC. There are far fewer Dook fans in NC than there are UNC and NCSU fans (most Dook fans live in the greater NYC area).
Most NCSU fans don’t despise Roy the way they did Dean.
Bilzo - April 20, 2010
oh dang. I just saw that “not” in your reply.
undo.Bilzo - April 20, 2010
you're welcome
have fun with him… i for one, hope he does sensational and wins a SB – god knows he deserves it for putting up with us ‘horrible’ fans in philly the last 11 years.
but the truth is this, that trade reeks of the old snyder days of bringing in has beens to put asses in seats (now super5 is no has been, but he’s gettin there…)
PHIGHTINPHILS - April 20, 2010
That’s exactly what I thought when I heard about the trade (live in the DC area, but not a Skins fan here) but I’ve been shocked at the amount of ecstatic reactions from my friends and the media.
Smoltz's Beard - April 20, 2010
Worried about Ibanez this year and next? Look what he did after the all star game last year. The man isn’t anything he was the first half of last year. I also think one of the most overrated players in baseball coming into this season is Happ. It seems like he is only confident in his heater and went way above his ceiling last season.
LET’S GO BRAVOS! This is a very important early season series.
JKowalek - April 20, 2010 via mobile
Gondeee
We are all now stupider for having read this thread. I award you zero points and may god have mercy on your soul.
fphjr01 - April 20, 2010
nice
love the billy madison quote… and we’re only stupider for actually commenting on it lol
PHIGHTINPHILS - April 20, 2010
Please leave now. Go do something with your lives besides talking shit about a sports team over the innternet.
Scott Coleman - April 20, 2010 via mobile
cool out
if you’ve actually read ANY of my posts you’ll clearly notice i haven’t trolled/talked trash on the braves at all. in fact, as a rabid phillies phan, the braves are the ONLY team in the NL east that gives me any cause for concern. The only reason i’m on talkingchop at all is due to the 5 questions our respective bloglords threw at eachother… and i was curious to see how it went down on this end…
so uhh, yea cool out… and for the record, the internet exists so losers like us can talk smack with eachother… i do it playfully, some malevolently, so please promptly remove the stick from between your cheeks, and let us quote billy madison in peace.
PHIGHTINPHILS - April 20, 2010
that is completely uncalled for dude. He has been extraordinarily respectful and you go an be a dick.
-10 for you
Swo12bv - April 20, 2010
this
Smoltz's Beard - April 20, 2010
Utley might not be a Top-5 player overall, but he is the best 2B in MLB. Even though he plays for the Phightin’ Phils, I’ll still vote for him to start the All-Star game over and over again.
NL:
C: Brian McCann
Bengie Molina
1B: Albert Pujols
Prince Fielder
2B: Chase Utley
Dan Uggla
3B: David Wright
Ryan Zimmerman
SS: Troy Tulowitzki
Hanley Ramirez
LF: Ryan Braun
Jay Bruce
CF: Dexter Fowler
Matt Kemp
RF: Jason Heyward
Justin Upton
DH: Manny Ramirez
Jim Thome
Wren_and_Stimpy - April 20, 2010
Uggla?
really?
McCann and McWill - April 20, 2010
This might be Prado’s year.
DawgB - April 20, 2010
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oVecKid - April 20, 2010
Go Caps
TradeAndruw - April 20, 2010
this
Smoltz's Beard - April 20, 2010
Zimmerman > Wright
Hanley > Tulo
TradeAndruw - April 20, 2010
that’s why they vote. it’s not like he’s putting in Juan Castro over Hanley.
Bilzo - April 20, 2010
Well, no
But Hanley is wayyy better than Tulo. No disrespect to Tulo, he’s a great hitter for a SS. But Ramirez is one of the top 4-5 hitters in the game. Any non-Rox fan who votes for Tulo over Hanley is just being ridiculous. Tulo in Coors field is roughly equal to Hanley Ramirez everywhere else.
Jacob Peterson - April 20, 2010
Never again
after his pitiful performance in the 08 All-Star game.
McGriff the Crime Dog - April 20, 2010
I’m behind you with Tulo and HanRam. I would say it’s very close but I’ll back you for not just going with what everyone says. But Fowler, nor any other CF, or OF in the NL other than Braun is better than Kemp, RIGHT NOW.
JKowalek - April 20, 2010 via mobile
The only reason why I’d vote for Fowler is to give the NL line-up a lead-off hitter.
Fowler
Tulo
Utley
Pujols
Manny
Wright
Braun
McCann
Heyward
Maybe that’s too much of a seperation in RH/LH…
Wren_and_Stimpy - April 20, 2010
Oh I didn’t know it was for a line up. I thought you were just naming the best.
JKowalek - April 20, 2010 via mobile
All-Star ballot.
Ideal scenario mixed with a little realism. I know that Zimmerman is a better sound player, but Wright has name value and plays in NY, etc.
This is the way I’d vote to give the NL the best chance to win.
Then:
Halladay
Lincecum
Wainwright
K-Rod
Bell
Wren_and_Stimpy - April 20, 2010
Ugh....
you know Pujols, Utley, Braun, these guys would be pretty effective in a leadoff role too, right? They might be best in the meat of an order, but in an All Star lineup, those spots are filled and others can slide up (or down).
Fantasy picking an NL lineup in an AL park (so including DH), give me
Hanley (SS)
Utley (2B)
Pujols (1B)
Howard (DH)
Braun (LF)
Upton (RF)
McCann ©
Zimmerman (3B)
Kemp (CF)
Mr. Sanchez - April 20, 2010
I would be more than shocked if Zimmerman gets more votes to start over Wright and if Howard would get more votes at DH over Manny.
Just sayin’.
Wren_and_Stimpy - April 20, 2010
Are we guessing what fans will vote for?
Or what we’d like to have? If it’s voting, then you can cross Dexter Fowler out, he won’t get any votes. And the NL fans don’t vote for a DH unless that has changed recently. Since the NL doesn’t have a DH, it’s hard to vote for an imaginary person, although I disagree that Ryan Howard would receive less votes than Ramirez if both were on the ballot as a DH.
Mr. Sanchez - April 20, 2010
Fowler isn't even the lead off hitter on the Rocks
Carlos G is. And Carlos G is a better player than Fowler. So to assume that he’d be a CF starter in an All Star game is ridiculous, especially over Matt Kemp who is arguably right there with Braun as the NL’s top outfielder.
I do agree with 95% of folks here though that Utley is a top 5’er overall and to suggest otherwise would be succumbing to homerism.
Cracker! - April 20, 2010
well said all around.
Smoltz's Beard - April 20, 2010
thank you sir and may I say you have wonderful taste with your Utley/Dunn mancrushes. My mancrushes are Sandoval and Kinsler.
Cracker! - April 20, 2010
Sandoval is a beast, if I got a chance to watch him more he might start climbing up my list. Kinsler still injured, right?
Smoltz's Beard - April 20, 2010
Still injured for a few more weeks
Mancrushes really suck for fantasy baseball purposes, you end up reaching for them. Even your mini crushes like my Carlos Gonzalezs and Gordon Beckhams.
Cracker! - April 20, 2010
I like those two a lot too
Mr. Sanchez - April 20, 2010
In both of my non-TC-keeper leagues I drafted Heyward in the 8th, and got alot of shit at the time but look like a genius so far this year.
Smoltz's Beard - April 20, 2010
i spent $22 on him in an auction… i didnt get him in my other two fantasy league and god damnit i wasnt gonna let it happen again (and Im not on teh Heyward is God bandwagon)
Swo12bv - April 20, 2010
Ok, hold onto your f'ing hat
And don’t take a swing at me. I took Billy Butler as my Util at pick 100, and Heyward went 101. D’oh.
Cracker! - April 20, 2010
Grrrrrrr….
soup du jour - April 20, 2010
+1
And I don’t remember the last time they voted for a player just because he was a leadoff hitter(even though he isn’t) for that purpose. Especially when there much better options. For the AS game they would be fine putting Kemp, HanRam or even Utley there.
JKowalek - April 20, 2010 via mobile
exactly
They aren’t exactly going to manufacture a run in the AS game, so putting someone up top with great contact is usually the best medicine. I think Kemp has even hit leadoff before; he definitely has the speed and obp. I’d like to see him lead off for the NL this year. My dream lineup would be:
Kemp CF
Utley 2b
Pujols 1b
Howard Dh
Braun Lf
Hanley SS
Sandoval 3b
McCann C
Upton Rf
Cracker! - April 20, 2010
I'd probably switch Upton and Hanley, but that's the tiniest of nitpicks.
but other than that, it looks pretty ideal.
soup du jour - April 20, 2010
If you want a leadoff hitter,
there are tons of better choices than Fowler (no disrespect to him, but he’s not even the best leadoff guy on his own team).
I’d go with Nyjer Morgan first, and Michael Bourn second. Jose Reyes—if he’s healthy, which I don’t think he is—would potentially be better than either.
Jacob Peterson - April 20, 2010
Morgan and Bourn
are pure speed guys, on an AS team you want obp guys, speed optional. I think Cameron Maybin would be a better choice than Morgan or Bourn. But, if I were choosing an AS team, I would avoid all 3 and let Kemp lead off.
Cracker! - April 20, 2010
Wait, what?
2009 OBPs:
Nyjer Morgan: 0.369
Michael Bourn: 0.354
Cameron Maybin: 0.318
Morgan and Bourn are outpacing Maybin in that category this year as well (though all 3 are improved). Your statement makes no sense at all.
I do agree that it’d be dumb to have any of those guys before Matt Kemp, though.
Jacob Peterson - April 20, 2010
You're right
I didn’t phrase that correctly. I would choose Maybin if I was to make a choice purely based on a speedy guy to hit leadoff and create havoc. I think he’ll be better once the AS break hits, but this is just fantasy conjecture.
Cracker! - April 20, 2010
Why head your list with "NL"
then finish with your top two DHs? That makes little or no sense, unless you’re counting interleague (is that your intent?)
Jareth Cutestory - April 20, 2010
AS game this year is in Anaheim
Cracker! - April 20, 2010
Even so...
the AL votes for a DH, not the NL. I believe the NL DH is chosen by the manager.
Mr. Sanchez - April 20, 2010
Is everyone in the City of Brotherly Love a Phish fan?...
that is getting more annoying than LSU fans and “eaux” for every long O sound.
Mr. Sanchez - April 20, 2010
I hate hate hate Phish, but what do they have to do with Philly?
TradeAndruw - April 20, 2010
So you don't "ph"ollow the analogy?
does the above question help?
Mr. Sanchez - April 20, 2010
Uh...
The City is "Ph"iladelphia. They are the "Ph"illies.
BullManUGA - April 20, 2010
I think we phollow your logic, but I thought everyone in the City of Brotherly Love was a Phils fan, not a Phish fan – that’s why we’re confused ;)
Wren_and_Stimpy - April 20, 2010
Or because Phillies fans, like Phish fans...
think it’s funny to replace every F in a word with a “ph” as some sort of homage to the level of their fandom, as LSU fans add “eaux” in the place of any long O, like “Geaux Tigers” or “Bleaux out”, etc. Was it really that complicated you couldn’t see the line between the 3 groups of "ph"ans?
Mr. Sanchez - April 20, 2010
I recommend a good internet security suite package to prevent phishing.
carpengui - April 20, 2010
This thread could go on phorever.
McCann and McWill - April 20, 2010
phine with me.
carpengui - April 20, 2010
Old Pharrah Phawcett photos
phap phap phap
Cracker! - April 20, 2010
You mean like this?
AllSaintsDay - April 20, 2010
indeed, that
Mr. Sanchez - April 20, 2010
TradeAndruw - April 20, 2010
Why, God? Why?
Jacob Peterson - April 20, 2010
I.C.P. was on Aqua Teens last week.
TradeAndruw - April 20, 2010
wow.
That is not a good reason. In fact, there is never, ever, ever a good reason for what you did. Particularly on a baseball blog. Ugh.
Jacob Peterson - April 20, 2010
Rec'd
Cracker! - April 20, 2010
that’s the worst blur-job EVER on a jersey.
Bilzo - April 20, 2010
haha
Smoltz's Beard - April 20, 2010
they suck
Jareth Cutestory - April 20, 2010
Can we have a joint in-game thread (Braves fans and Phillies fans), that would get really intense, but awesome!
bwellnjonesco - April 20, 2010
Ha, the only way that would turn out would be bad.
Smoltz's Beard - April 20, 2010
they might throw up on us too.
Scott Coleman - April 20, 2010
The correct term is “barph.”
WholeCamels - April 20, 2010
haha
fair enough
Scott Coleman - April 20, 2010
+1
bwellnjonesco - April 20, 2010
Except
If we started talking about the Big Lebowski
royhobbs - April 20, 2010
The four hosts of the radio show I listen to in the mornings came to the unanimous conclusion that Arlington Road was a better movie than Big Lebowski. I just about turned the radio off.
Smoltz's Beard - April 20, 2010
Yet more proof
That radio hosts are the least knowledgeable and intelligent people on the planet.
Jacob Peterson - April 20, 2010
Oh, the Junkies, EB annoys the hell out of me. I stopped listening when they changed formats and got rid of Big O and Dukes. Chad and Lavar are okay.
TradeAndruw - April 20, 2010
JP is easily the worst. EB has grown on me like gangbusters over the past two years, and now he’s my favorite.
Smoltz's Beard - April 20, 2010
We should take the MOyer and Kendrick games. Although I'd LOVE to knock Halladay around.
So if we only win that game by putting up a 6 pack on Halladay, I’m fine with it!
EyePod - April 20, 2010
I’d suggest you take it easy on Kendrick. If you knock him around too much, the Phils may take him out of the rotation, and I’d suspect most Braves fans don’t want that to happen.
Sandbagging that game may be in your best interest.
Bilzo - April 20, 2010
I dunno,
who would they replace him with? They are so thin at SP. At least until they sign Pedro and Smoltz (kidding on that last one… I hope).
Jacob Peterson - April 20, 2010
I smell a Livan Hernandez trade
Cracker! - April 20, 2010
LOL
now that would be hilarious. Replacing Kendrick with Livan Hernandez is like replacing a broken toilet with an even older broken toilet. Either way, if you try to use it too much, you get crap everywhere.
Jacob Peterson - April 20, 2010
analogies FTW
Swo12bv - April 20, 2010
ha
Philadelphia is one more SP injury away from shitting in a hole in the ground.
Cracker! - April 20, 2010
I ain't afraid of no stinkin' Phillies - ;-)
Because This Is..

Can’t wait til tonight’s game.
NCChopper - April 20, 2010
Finally a pic worth looking at in this thread. Nice work!
Lizziebeth - April 20, 2010
lol
Indeed. Great graphic!
Jacob Peterson - April 20, 2010
lol at him saying "Utley is a top 5 player"
I can name 5 I’d easily rather have on my team….
Pujols
Mauer
Hanley
Braun
Longoria
SmithnCompany - April 20, 2010
Can you name 2 more that are clearly better
The point is, that outside of Pujols, the next 4 are pretty debatable and Utley is surely in that discussion.
Cracker! - April 20, 2010
The other 4 I can see
but Ryan Braun is nowhere near the player Chase Utley is. I mean, it’s not even close. Look at some stats next time.
Jacob Peterson - April 20, 2010
i was shocked to see how poor(probably not the best way to describe a guy worth abour 5 WAR) his overall numbers are. he is a really avg defender in a bad position.
the guy can certainly hit though, and i still really like him so
Swo12bv - April 20, 2010
Oh, sure, he can hit
Prince Fielder, too. It’s just too bad for the Brewers that both are mediocre-at-best fielders at the game’s two least valuable positions.
Jacob Peterson - April 20, 2010
ya but the difference is Fielder is probably a better hitter and a better defender, his problem is projection and his weight…can he sustain success carrying so much weight.
Disclaimer: I didnt check my numbers so i am risking looking like a dofus, as such you have permission to call me such if i am wrong
Swo12bv - April 20, 2010
This isn't true
Salty - April 21, 2010
do u care to expound on this accusation…or are simple yes/no answers sufficient description so that we can learn from our errors
Swo12bv - April 21, 2010
Accusation?
What he said is wrong. The real question is why did he say it?
Salty - April 23, 2010
lets assume we take the WAR for those 5 guys since Longoria came into the league (2008)
Longoria = 12.5
Pujols = 17.5
Mauer= 13.9
Hanley= 14.5
Braun= 8.8
Utley =15.7
You notice how Utley is a lot higher than everyone ont he list not named Pujols…its because he’s better than everyone not named Pujols. with an exception for Hanley as he is getting better every year and maybe Mauer, becuase its difficult to determine how good his defense is and how much weight we should attribute to that.
needless to say, ur wrong Utley is definately a top 5 player and I think he’s the 2nd best
Swo12bv - April 20, 2010
I agree completely
Utley is my #2 as well. I’d say it’s Pujols, Utley, Ramirez, Mauer, Longoria, and then a whole bunch of guys, but definitely including Lincecum.
Jacob Peterson - April 20, 2010
Didn't Zobrist have one of the highest WAR's last season?
So does that make him a top 5 player too? Get real man, I would MUCH rather have Braun than Utley.
SmithnCompany - April 20, 2010
Zobrist was just 1 year
But if he keeps doing what he did last year, I would definitely, easily, in a heartbeat take him over Ryan Braun. Don’t dismiss the statistics—they keep you from looking like a doofus.
Jacob Peterson - April 20, 2010
To be fair, Braun is one of my mancrush players.
But yeah, its his D that holds him back. Utley can play great D at a premium position and hit like a corner outfielder…money.
soup du jour - April 20, 2010
Re-reading this
I think it comes out wrong. To be clear, I didn’t mean to imply Smith was a doofus, just that statistics can help everyone to make smarter arguments and decisions. I’ve got to start using “one” instead of “you”, even though it sounds awkward.
Jacob Peterson - April 20, 2010
Statistics also support incorrect arguments. You seem to be making definitive statements based on what, statistics? UZR is a bit of a joke. It cripples WAR. Surely you must have something more solid than that.
Salty - April 21, 2010
which is why i used the past two years worth of data ( I woulda used more but i couldn’t becuase Braun and Longoria havent been around long enough)
Swo12bv - April 20, 2010
Comparing anyone to Albert Pujols in terms of baseball skill is like comparing Hitler to Gandhi in a list of top humanitarians.
UMDBHIK - April 20, 2010
haha
Even Heyward?
Jacob Peterson - April 20, 2010
Godwin's Law
I think Heyward would be like the “Warrick Dunn” to Pujol’s Gandhi. Sure, Warrick Dunn is a great guy and all, everyone likes him…but he’s still no Gandhi.
Yet.
Bronn - April 20, 2010
see this is why
i feel ok posting here… because you guys (gals too?) are actual baseball fans… if i post ANYTHING on a mets blog i’m like, the antichrist… at least here we can debate with legitimate arguments (stats) and have a real back-and-forth about it… i forgot what it’s like having a rival where the fans are essentially equally passionate about their respective ballclubs. not just johan santana shirt-wearers and crybabies. this should be a fantastic series, i’m hoping the phils bats wake the ef up cuz they’re gonna need it against those SP’s of yours….
PHIGHTINPHILS - April 20, 2010
OK
Take it easy, Champ. Why don’t you sit this next one out, stop talking for a while.
WholeCamels - April 20, 2010
Welcome! I appreciate intelligent banter with the opposing team’s fans as well. I was out in Philadelphia last year, awesome city. I went to a game at Citizen’s Bank Park, great stadium!
mvandonsel - April 20, 2010
I rec’d this for the awesomest stereotyping of Met fans I’ve heard in a while.
Cracker! - April 20, 2010
same
Smoltz's Beard - April 20, 2010
Haha
Smoltz's Beard - April 20, 2010
so uhhh,
that guy heyward, real deal huh?
i’m REALLY hoping last nights game isn’t a microcosm of the phils season… your bats woke up just in the nick of time. nice win, clearly kendrick has some serviceable talent. i thought madson was gonna lock the door… unreal… bottom 9th, 2 out, 3-0 lead… we lose. haha great win guys, it was a fun one to watch… at least my PHlyers won lol
and ps – if you want anti-mets chatter, we can all be best buds (buds = 420, oh wait, i’m a day late) haha
PHIGHTINPHILS - April 21, 2010
I’m all for you guys beating the Devils, but go Caps.
Smoltz's Beard - April 21, 2010
I'm a big Flyers fan now
Beating the Devils gives the Thrashers a better draft pick and will make Ilya Kovalchuk cry and I like those 2 things.
Cracker! - April 21, 2010
Phillies/Braves Nostalgia
2003, I remember watching a Braves broadcast with a group of friends. Before the opening pitch they had quick soundbytes from the fans and a Philly fan visiting Turner said, we’re going all the way this year because of Chase Utley! I remember every single one of my college friends laughing their asses off, and myself being the loudest of the laughers. Yet another delusional Philly fan, Chase Utley is garbage I thought.
Now, years later, I have to say. You had the last laugh random overweight Philly fan. Now, I’d like to say that we’re going all the way this year because of Jason Heyward.
Cracker! - April 20, 2010
as much as i wanna laugh
dude, that guy is the truth. he’s a 5-tool, nay, 7-tool player
so kudos to random overweight philly phan, and as a baseball fan, i’m looking fwd to watching the development of your young heyward fella, you guys seem to find and sponge in all of the local talent, heyward is from around ATL correct? maybe the next 10 years will feature a renewed philly/atl rivaly consisting of solid outfielders heyward vs dom brown… thoughts?
PHIGHTINPHILS - April 21, 2010
I think that rivalry might start up again this year. Actually, I can see where it started last year.
Either way, the pendelum is swinging back to the good ol’ Atl.
justincredubil02 - April 21, 2010
So, I just read the Q&A over at TGP, and I was amazed that the discussion went from Utley to the Civil War (and the ignorance of the majority of the ones talking about the Civil War).
justincredubil02 - April 21, 2010
lol yea
i’m real big into commenting and all, but i kept my distance from that side-convo….
PHIGHTINPHILS - April 21, 2010
Yeah. It was hard for me to keep from trolling on that one, but somehow, I managed to keep my fingers silent.
I really liked how someone said that Lee was not a good general though and that he lacked battle-field genius. I guess they have never heard of the battle of Vera Cruz…
justincredubil02 - April 21, 2010
one of these days u’ll realize that not every has the acumen of a specialized degree in american history. It shouldn’t shock you that people are stupid….just look at voting habits (not just politically, although thats a great source of my proof looking at either side of the aisle, but All-Stat voting even). people have no clue what is factual or what they want, generally we are all idiots, with a specialized knowledge of one area. You are an idiot when it comes to realizing when to shut up about KJ, whereas ur knowledge of American History and Gay Bars in the Abilene area is extensive.
Swo12bv - April 21, 2010
Touche’
Oh, I didn’t read any of that book yet – Sky Mall Mag was WAY too interesting to put down!
justincredubil02 - April 21, 2010
i don’t necessarily agree with reading, but let me know how that books turns out.. i am interested
Swo12bv - April 22, 2010
well said, and agree with the overall premise
Mr. Sanchez - April 21, 2010
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