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Braves vs. Rockies Preview - Baseball, Appalachian Style

Martin Prado, aka Superman, flies home to take on the Rockies.

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Martin Prado, aka Superman, flies home to take on the Rockies.

The Rockies think they're so great. Yeah, big deal. You're from the Rocky Mountains. So what? There are 10 mountains in Alaska alone that are taller than anything in the Rockies. And the names of these "Rockies"? Mount Elbert? Lame! Mount Harvard? It's in Colorado, not Massachusetts! Mount Massive? Geez, I get it--it's a big mountain. Why not just call it "Totally the Biggest Mountain You've Ever Seen"? And while we're at it, what kind of a name for a mountain range is "The Rocky Mountains"? Of course they're rocky--they're mountains! I didn't think they were made out of candy!

When it comes to mountains, give me the Appalachians any day. They may be old mountains, but that just means they've got character. Plus, the mountain names are awesome: Brasstown Bald, Clingman's Dome, Big Frog Mountain, Waterrock Knob, Max Patch, Peaks of Otter--I could go on. When it comes to nomenclature, you can't beat the Appalachians.

Of course, what makes the Appalachians the best is that THEY'RE IN BRAVES COUNTRY. If these Rockies think they're going to be able to just walk into Atlanta and mince around the diamond like they do in Colorado, they've got another thing coming. We do things Appalachian style down here, and they'd better respect that.

Pitching matchups and analysis after the jump.

Star-divide

Pitching Matchups

Friday, 7:30 P.M. - Jason Hammel (0-0, 5.14) vs. Derek Lowe (2-0, 4.50)

Hammel, a tall (6'6"), 27-year-old righty, was acquired before the 2009 season from the Rays, where he was seen as something of a spare part. He pitched fairly well last year, though, going 10-8 with a 4.33 ERA in 30 starts. Hammel will be making his second start of the year. In the first, he gave up 4 runs in 7 innings to the Padres in a game the Rockies eventually lost 5-4 in 14 innings. The game was at Coors Field, so 4 runs is not bad, and he really only had one bad inning.

Hammel faced the Braves twice in 2009, getting hit pretty hard both times. On May 19th, he gave up 6 R (3 ER) on 10 H in 6 IP, and took the loss. The other start was the last game before the all-star break, in which he gave up 5 ER on 9 H in only 3 IP. Hammel was saved from the loss in that game when the Braves got Acosta'd and ended up losing 8-7.

Fun Jason Hammel fact: in 2009, he was more effective against cleanup hitters than against #9 hitters:

vs. #4 Hitters: .190 AVG, .250 OBP, .266 SLG (.516 OPS)

vs. #9 Hitters .220 AVG, .299 OBP, .254 SLG (.553 OPS)

As for Lowe, I'm not sure much else needs to be said. He's 2-0 despite getting hit hard in one start and walking 7 in the other. I think he's due for a truly good start, however. (Though I'd take a DLW if need be.)

Saturday, 7:00 P.M. - Ubaldo Jimenez (2-0, 2.25) vs. Kenshin Kawakami (0-1, 3.00)

If you don't know Ubaldo, be sure to tune in Saturday night. The 26-year-old can light up the radar gun--he can hit 100 mph with his fastball, and last year led all big league starters with an average fastball velocity of 96.1 mph. Aside from the velocity, he's just a damn good pitcher. He put up a 5.7 WAR season last year to go along with a 3.47 ERA and matching peripherals. He also gets groundballs on more than half his balls in play.

In 2010, Jimenez has been somewhat hittable, giving up 15 hits in 12 innings. He's only given up 3 runs, however, so his ERA is stellar. If he wants to keep his ERA that low, he'll have to give up fewer hits. In 2009, he faced the Braves once, on July 10th, giving up 2 ER in 6 IP and striking out 8. He picked up a JVL in that game, though, as he was outpitched by none other than Derek Lowe.

Kawakami pitched well in his first start but picked up the loss as he could not quite slay the dragon of Tim Lincecum. He gets another shot at dragon-slaying this time out, and while Jimenez's carcass may not make quite as impressive of a trophy, it may just be easier to obtain. Let's hope the offense helps him out a bit more this time out.

Sunday, 1:30 P.M. - Greg Smith (1-1, 5.25) vs. Jair Jurrjens (0-1, 8.65)

You may be saying to yourself, "Who's Greg Smith?" Well, I'll tell you. He's a 26-year-old lefty. He was drafted by the Diamondbacks, but has been involved in two blockbuster trades already in his young career. He was sent to the A's in the Dan Haren trade. He went just 7-16 despite a respectable 4.16 ERA in 2008. The poor record was due largely to terrible run support, as he received just 2.88 runs of support per start, the lowest in 11 years (according to the Denver Post). After the season he was traded to the Rockies in the Matt Holliday deal. He spent all of 2009 in the minors before making the Rockies' rotation by default when Jeff Francis went down with a shoulder injury toward the end of spring training.

So far in 2010, Smith has pitched well in one start and poorly in the other. He gave up 5 ER in 5 IP to the Brewers, including 2 HR. In his last start, he limited the Mets to 2 ER in 7 IP and struck out 8. Oddly, the bad start was on the road and the good one was at home. Let's hope that trend continues.

For the Braves, the Surgeon is looking to get back on track after botching his last procedure. It will probably take a while for his ERA to recover, but hopefully there won't be any other lasting side-effects of the beatdown he took on Monday.

Stat of the Series

Jason Giambi, the Rockies' DH pinch-hitter/"1st baseman" is off to an amazing start. He has had 14 plate appearances thus far. This is his line:

0 H, 6 BB, .000 AVG, .429 OBP

No, that's not Greg Norton's line from 2009. It's not a misprint either. A .429 OBP with no hits. That takes some talent.

Question of the Series: Can the Rockies hit at lower elevations?

For all of those who remember the late-90's Rockies teams that featured such Coors Field creations as Vinny Castilla, Ellis Burks, and Dante Bichette (or as I like to call them, Dante and the Bichettes), you may be surprised to learn that these Rockies are solid hitters on the road, too. They're much better at home, of course, but that is to be expected.

Here is a graph that shows how the Rockies' lineup hits at home, relative to NL averages. As usual with these graphs, the further from the center a point is, the better. Also, positive percentages are always good. So the fact that the Rockies are "+7.4%" in strikeout rate means that they strike out 7.4% less than the league average when at home. [The four stats are batting average (AVG); Isolated Power (ISO), which is just slugging percentage minus batting average; walk rate (BB%), which is the percentage of plate appearances that end in walks; and strikeout rate (K%), which is the percentage of at-bats that end in strikeouts.]

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As you can see, the Rockies are pretty awesome at hitting when at home. They strike out less than average and hit better than average. More importantly, they walk a ton and hit for a huge amount of power. Let's see how they do on the road:

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That's obviously not as good. On the road, their batting average is slightly subpar, and they strike out a ton. They do, however, still hit for above-average power and walk a good bit. That adds up to a pretty good offensive team. They aren't just Bichettes. They can hurt you.

Finally, I just wanted to point out that the Rockies have done a fantastic job of developing young players. Did you know that on some days they field an entirely-homegrown lineup? In fact, of their regulars and semi-regulars, only Carlos Gonzalez (who has a hamstring issue and almost certainly won't play in this series) and Miguel Olivo (who splits time with Ianetta at catcher) are not homegrown. For all of us who lived through the comings and goings of the Baby Braves, that has to be pretty impressive. Here's what such a lineup might look like:

  1. Dexter Fowler, CF
  2. Seth Smith, LF
  3. Troy Tulowitzki, SS
  4. Todd Helton, 1B
  5. Brad Hawpe, DH
  6. Chris Iannetta, C
  7. Ian Stewart, 3B
  8. Ryan Spilborghs, RF
  9. Clint Barmes, 2B
The Rockies may play in a dumb mountain range, but you've got to respect their player development.

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Comments

You probably like Dane Cook, don’t you?

Uh... No.

Hate him actually. If you’re saying I write like Dane Cook, I am horribly insulted. I may have to go shoot myself, in fact.

Shoot Dane Cook instead. And Joe Rogan.

Haha

You’re right, that’s a much better idea.

I liked it.

Don’t listen to the minority.

Much better than:

BRAVES VS ROCKIES.
THE MATCHUPS:

Awww...Joe Rogan is okay...

He called out Ned Holness (Carlos Mencia) on stealing jokes

I’m trying to say I find you inane and unfunny. And you waste words. Many many many words.

I understand there are plenty of readers who like it, but since you and Royhobbs have begun writing features for the main page, this blog has fallen from 1-B on my Braves Blog list (Behind 1-A, Bravesjournal.com) to a complete afterthought. It’s painful for me to sift through juvenille crap when I come here for the quality information, speculation, and linkage provided by gondee, aswell as the excellent prospect/minor leagues coverage provided by yondaime4.

Congrats on your ‘opportunity,’ but you lost me.

Remember that bowl if ice-cream I referenced on another thread?
Case. Point.

Alrighty then

Now, I’m going to have to stop what I was doing for work to address this.

Okay, I can handle you not liking the nonsensical garbage that I post from time to time, because compared to many other members here, I’m pedestrian when it comes to my utilization of statistics to prove my point, so I fall more back onto trying to be funny, which sure, I fail at a lot. But, if you think that pac’s writing and delivery of facts, stats and information is sub-par to any other Braves sites’ out there, then you’re obviously not actually reading his content, being blinded by your prejudice against him trying to inject a little personality into his words.

I didn’t say the article had no information. I just said that I had to sift through juvenilia to get to it.

I fully understand that I’m in the minority here. I’m simply boo-hoo’ing the new level of discourse here. I used to love the blog. Now I barely read it. If it’s any concern to gondee, at least he knows that people with my point of view exist, and this particular person-like-me has become a former-die-hard-reader.

Enjoy yourselves.

So you’re bitching about 3 paragraphs of “juvenile” knowledge?? Seriously…

No offense

But this Blog’s readership is the highest its been. I really doubt it is beacue of lack of quality postings and information.

this

Talking Chop really is the best Braves blog on the web.

Bravesjournal, Cap. Ave. Club, Bravesheart, etc. are all nice reads, but none can compare to the constant prospect and minor league coverage, pre-series, in-series and post-series writeups, coverage of breaking Braves news (to be honest, if something big happens, TC has it up within 15 minutes… if not sooner) and much, much more.

Talking Chop FTW.

Well, I can appreciate your straightforwardness

You’re probably the first person-like-you who’s actually voiced his concerns about the way things are that I can really recall. Typically, most people who don’t like it here, stop reading.

To each, their own. No hard feelings.

Note taken

To address your concerns, I get that you don’t like my style (to each his own and all that), but there’s not really any point in complaining unless you’re going to offer some constructive criticism. You’re saying the first 3 graphs are “juvenilia” is not exactly enlightened commentary. They were meant to be juvenile. I deliberately took a light-hearted introduction so that the post wasn’t just X did Y against Z. If that offends you for some reason, I’m sorry.

I disagree with your statement about TC as a whole. The level of discourse at TC is as high as it’s ever been. We’ve had more interesting articles and debates here in the last 3 months than at any time since I started reading. And if we’ve also had some fun, too, what of it? Is that so wrong? I know I personally have been tremendously entertained by a lot of the articles on TC recently (by royhobbs in particular), which is more than I can say for most baseball blogs.

Loved your write up and all of your writeups pac, there’s always a critic. I am always thoroughly entertained, maybe it’s just because I’m so f’ing juvenile! That guy is an ass, a real

Just don't take it to heart

Don’t change anything

You’ve got no reason to apologize. Sounds like this guy is just one of those folks who don’t bother to understand any of the new statistical measures in the game.

Keep up the good work.

Just go away

Love to hear people bitch when it’s Painfully obvious you’ll be back. If you’ve really got an ax to grind make your own goddamn blog and show all the morons and their juvenile writing how it’s done.

Disregard this clown. You guys do an awesome job.

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He looks

like he’s about to do some fisting.

x2

Chip will be elated.

hahahahahahaha I love it!!!

Oh crap

that comment was juvenile. jjschiller was right, I’m such a hack.

I guess I’d better stop writing forever.

He kinda makes me want to club a baby seal

and kidney punch a squirrel baby

SERIOUSLY

Can someone get a baby chick in here for jjschiller to strangle so that he can continue on with his day?

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If you're going to do it

Do it right. The font is called “Crackhouse”

Nice all the way around.
the best i could do...

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Just bustin' your balls

The font is not standard anywhere, and font companies charge egregious amounts just to be able to type

lmao, just too funny :)
Pacgnosis

Pac im a big fan. F this guy (pardon me). But seriously when i scan through the comment section i stop to see what that orange fish has to say. its a marker for me. Keep up the good work. Im trying to have fun here not read everybodys masters thesis on braves baseball. Guys like jjschiller can go read whatever it is they deem literary genius somewhere else.

You act like you are offended by their writing or something.

Like it’s your right determine what goes on the blog, and by god if there are any shenanigans you’ll sure let them know about it, right? STFU. You know what your right is? To not read the articles. But saying it affects your opinion of the blog in general is “inane”. Deliberately attacking someone’s writing style just because you disagree with it probably hurts their feelings, and at the very least is irresponsible by you. Why don’t you do us all a favor and keep your opinion to yourself, OR do it the right way and share your concerns with Gondee via email? Maybe I’m taking our words too seriously but I was offended by YOU. So. Go Braves.

Why did you put opportunity in quotes? Are you suggesting that it wasn’t an opportunity?

I’m sure you can see the logical conflict in your remarks, so I’ll leave you to your righteousness.

I get what you're saying, above and with this comment.

Yours just seemed unnecessary though, and a bit obtuse. My comment was a knee-jerk reaction, so it might not have been perfect but I think it served it’s purpose. Maybe I’m making too big a deal out of your post, but if you had been critiquing me I would’ve been hurt. Whatever, go bravos

I'm not hurt

I do think it’s a bit weird that he would go out of his way to get into a debate about the “quality” of writing of… a baseball blog… on the internet. Yes, my post is not exactly Charles Dickens. It wasn’t meant to be, and it seems somewhat perverse to wish that it were.

The great thing about the Internet is that you can not read something if you don’t like it. Crazy concept, I know.

You know this whole site is dedicated to a GAME….its not the wall street journal or anything

Just think, we wouldnt have gems like this guy if it wernt for the anonymity of the internet.

or at least exponentially fewer.

jj, you are probably...

…the kind of guy who likes to yell at people from the comfortable, safe, and mobile confines of your lime green VW bug, but would keep your mouth shut if someone cut in front of you in the grocery store. Go be a D-bag somewhere else.

he simply voiced his feelings in a completely non confrontational way. sure he degraded the blog a bit, but there’s no reason to insult him for his opinion.

You (and im singly you out bc im an ass, you’re not alone this comment can be directed at any of the above members who have insulted Pac) are currently yelling at people from the comfortable, safe, and mobile confines of you lime green VW bug, as you insult a guy for voicing his opinion. SO he thinks Pac is juvenile, so do I, (coincidently I am juvenile as well and thus I love the juvenility, yes i made that word up don’t correct me spell check)

the guy was very polite about his remarks and now people are bashing him. Leave him alone, if he chooses to go elsewhere because he is all about straight facts and not nonsense then that’s his perogative. I wish him luck, and feel the best place to get he info is here and if you have to go through childish nonsense than so be it. (again i want to reiterate I love childish nonsense and if i had one on tap I’d make a poop joke right about now).

P.S. thought of a poop joke, its our duty (heheh duty) as AMericans to vioce our opinions when we don’t like something, there’s no reason to criticize someone for disagreeing with you

I’m done so you can imagine me curtsying after my perfect dismount from my high horse

Right

I really don’t have a problem with the guy, I just think anyone complaining about anyone else’s writing style on a baseball blog is pretty pointless. Not unlike farting in the mirror.

See what I did there?

i take two issues with your statement.

You can be pissed off about what he said, becuase I would get upset if someone criticized my writing style, as you say especially on a baseball blog. But only because its not cheating if its your dog.

Second, farting in a mirror is far from pointless. First i would be interested to see what it (an ass) looks like whilst farting. Second, you might be able to fog the mirror and write a message for the next person to read when he (or she, I’m not sexist) farts into said mirror.

So there.

+1 for the Road Trip reference!

The word should clearly be “juvenilleness”

Haha...

…green VW bug, classic

Let me know when you start your own blog so I can check it out.

you do kinda...

and dane cook is hilarious, cuz im in college

Dane Cook was funny when I saw him in 2004. Then he got really popular. Now he sucks.

Although he did get to kiss Jessica Alba… god damnit…

People in Boston think I look like Dane Cook

Ben Affleck too. They are weird.

isnt Affleck the Red Sox fan? Or is that Matt Damon?

Whay do all my pics have the http?

Just starting posting gifs, etc

I’ll try and help… IMG code doesn’t work here, I noticed that may be what you’re trying to use.

Click the little “image icon” on the reply box – it will give you a place to put the URL address of the image.

Then, add the “height” code at the end like this: …" height="120">
This will limit the height of an image posted, and it will scale the rest automatically. I think they prefer we try and post images less than “300” if possible.

Best movie ever

both, I believe

but Affleck especially is known for it

Yeah, it's both

I live not to far from Affleck. He lives in Cambridge and is atteh Sawx games quite often.

take it easy Reindeer Games!
bwahahaha

“For the last time, I’m not Ben Affleck!”
“You white, you Ben Affleck.”

Best pre-jump introduction ever

I mean, who cares about Jeff Francis, Troy Tulowitzki, or how Ubaldo Jimenez looks like an alien the way his eyes bug out before the pitch – let’s totally slam on the Pujols-damn MOUNTAINS, motherf*cker!!

Exactly.

You’re right, though. Ubaldo does look a bit like ET.

From the state with the highest peak east of the Mississippi...

Mt. Mitchell at 6684 ft, and the mountain named “Grandfather Mountain” (all you whipper-snapper mountains step aside)…

Looking forward to another SERIES win this weekend.
I got a feeling…we may make gravel out of the rocks.
.

I tore up my knee on Grandfather Mountain. Sad days.

I have been to the top of both, TYVM.

-1 for lying about going outside

what is this outside you speak of?

2 out of 3..............

one way or the other. This one could go either way. Braves win game 1 pretty easily, Colorado wins a good one in Game 2 and Game 3 will be a toss up.

Totally missed the greatest Rocky Mountain quote:

“I thought the Rocky Mountains would be alot rockier.”
“Yeah, that John Denver’s full of shit man.”

I prefer the Big Rock Candy Mountains

In the Big Rock Candy Mountains you never change your socks
And the little streams of alcohol come a-trickling down the rocks
The brakemen have to tip their hats and the railroad bulls are blind
There’s a lake of stew and of whiskey too
You can paddle all around ’em in a big canoe
In the Big Rock Candy Mountains

WOW

Now THAT was uncalled for! haha

Oh come with me we'll go and see the Big Rock Candy Mountiain...

where they hung the jerk, who invented work.

If you have seen the Rocky Mountains in person and other actual mountain range, like the Alps

You would know why they are called “Rocky”

There are 10 mountains in Alaska alone that are taller than anything in the Rockies.

HELL YEAH!! GO ALASKA!!!

Geez, I get it—it’s a big mountain. Why not just call it “Totally the Biggest Mountain You’ve Ever Seen”?

Literally LOL’d at that one; however, since you insist in putting the question mark outside of the quotations I can no longer read this blog, it’s so juvenile, please learn how to write…

Yeah I agree…Pacgnosis is a horrible writer. Go post over on a true Braves blog like the one on the AJC or ESPN.

:)

keep it up...

I’m a 30 something male without children who doesnt take himself too seriously (yet my comments sometime reflect otherwise) and i have to say i enjoy this site and its stab at humor along with information.

however, the posters on this site are often juvenile, but hear me out….

I dont think that’s a bad thing. it’s a blog about a game and it should be fun. Statistical analysis aside, money aside, fame aside…it’s a frickin’ game and should be presented in that manner. it’s fun to disagree and try to “prove” each other wrong, but insulting someone’s writing (who doesnt even get paid for his work) and calling one juvenile on their own blog is…elementary.

Good job, guys! Keep it young! Keep it fresh!

That's what she said.

Us? Juvenile? NEVER!

doody.fart.clownpenis.

that is all

Lineup tonight (meh)

McLouth
Prado
Chipper
HINSKE
Escobar
Heyward
Cabrera
ROSS
Lowe

That's weird

I would have thought we’d play Ross in the Sunday game, which is both a day game and against a LHP. Hinske is fine, except I think Glaus is just starting to heat up, so I’m not sure why he’s in there for Troy, instead of for Melky or McLouth.

damnit

i hate it when Mac gets a rest…

Haven't lurked long enough to know where to put this:

The twitter of Cyborg Tommy Hanson:
http://twitter.com/cyborghanson48

Pretty hilarious stuff.

That’s great. Thanks for posting.

awesome.

this is hilarious

Hahaha!

UNLIKE CYBORG REYES JOJO MY CPU DOES NOT REQUIRE ‘EARNED RUNS’ FOR NOURISHMENT

That was one of my favorites too.

Live from CO

I’ve been here in Denver for a few days and got to see two of the Mets games while here. First off, the Rockies are amazing amazing, and shall bear no further torment or comparison. The Appalachians? Pleeeease…

Coors Field is seriously awesome, you can see the sun behind the mountains around the 4th inning, and seeing the Mets and Rox, well, that was about when we needed some additional entertainment.

The Rox are NOT playing well. Or rather, they didnt seem to play well while I watched them this week. I have FULL confidence that we can take this series, with just a little finesse.

And, my main point, Tulo walks up to the plate to “Party in the USA.” I would pay an EXTRA $4 (bleacher seats!!!) to hear that song blast while this beast of a future HOF four more times.

Wait

You think Miley Cyrus is a future Hall-of-Fame inductee?

Mountains

Both the Appalachians and Rockies suck. Give me a volcanic range like the Cascades any day of the week.

Over/Under for the series – 5
Prado hits
Glaus swinging strikeouts
Chipper weak groundouts to 1b or 2b
Heyward RBIs

even
under
under
OVER.

haha

over
under
under
over

Under on all accounts.
Why don't people realize

That when calling for an over/under, it has to be a decimal?

What if Prado gets 5 hits every game
What if Glaus K’s 5 times every game
Chipper weakly grounds out 5 times every game
And Heyward chips in approximately 5 RBI every game?

Then nobody wins.

Number of times royhobbs is going to call somebody out for doing something ‘incorrectly’ on Talking Chop today:

6

6.5

P.S. In your hypothetical circumstance

over, over, over, and over would win…not nobody…

…because the question was about the series not about individual games. /explained

over
under
even
even

Don't forget...

Thunderhead Mountain and the sub-peak thereof:

Also known as ROCKY TOP!

Good write up.

Read most of the comments written about this site and found the criticisms of it to be ridiculous. I think the authors of this website are doing a fantastic job in informing the readers about Braves activities and keeping us entertained. I find the humor and random ref to pop culture or “juvenile” topics to be the part about this site. We as fans are not taking ourselves too serious when it comes to writing anything on this site. I really enjoy reading other true Braves fans make their opinions voiced without being seriously ridicule by idiots or internet trolls. This (i am assuming) is a site for entertainment and in depth coverage of Braves baseball by die hard fans. If you want serious, go to espn.com or mlb.com. They do a bang up job cover all things “Braves.”

1 hour and 22 minutes until game time…WOOO!

Any online streams for tonight’s game?

another thing think coming

Enjoyed the write-up, Pac and Mvhs are both doing a great job keeping things hopping. When Gondeee offered the new blog position, I was hoping these guys would get it. There’s an old family saying, “if it ain’t fun, it ain’t nothing”, keep up the good work.

Feel like CRAP and just woke up from a two hour nap. Just turned on MLB Network and some “expert” in a cowboy hat called Salty: Jarrod Saltatakens.

I wish I lived at home with my mother so I could take 2 hour naps during the day too…

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