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Spring Training Open Thread: Pirates at Braves (maybe)

Rain in Florida is putting the kybosh on many a spring training games today. The Braves-Pirates game has been pushed back to a 1:30 start time. Here is the lineup for Atlanta (notice the big change at the top):

Martin Prado, 2B
Nate McLouth, CF
Chipper Jones, 3B
Troy Glaus, 1B
Brian McCann, C
Yunel Escobar, SS
Jason Heyward, RF
Matt Diaz, LF
Jair Jurrjens, P

This is very likely the lineup we may see on opening day. It will be interesting to watch how long they keep Prado and McLouth switched, and if that works for both of them.

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I'm liking this change.

McLouth doesn’t seem to do well leading off an inning, hopefully Prado is better at it. McLouth definitely has better on-base skills than Prado, but as long as Prado can sustain a high batting average it should be no problem.

It would be nice...

To see Heyward get some protection. I like this only if a lefty in on the mound (although with a lefty I would think that Matty would bat higher in the order). I mean it’s awesome that Heyward has a great eye, and that he doesn’t swing at a lot of trash pitches, but I don’t want to see him walk because he’s being pitched around. I’ve said it before and I’m saying it now. The 2-hole is where he needs to be right now. Our lead off guys get better pitches to look at and he is protected by Chipper.

Just my opinion of course!

I’d love to see Heyward in the 2-hole. Maybe not right away, but if he looks good lower in the order, I think the 2-spot would work great for him. He’s got great contact, power, and on-base skills that would profile well there. Not to mention some speed, too.

Further down, I kinda wanna see the order be JHey, McCann, Esco… due to (a) speed of JHey; (b) propensity of Esco to hit into DPs.

If you’re trying to avoid Escobar hitting into DP’s, wouldn’t you want Heyward batting front of him? That way if Heyward’s on first and Escobar is coming to the plate, Heyward could either steal second or get to 2nd base fast enough to break up a double play.

Possibly.. I admit I’m a little torn on that … you could almost say that my suggestion is a ‘surrender’ and assumes that if Brian is on base, he’s gonna get doubled up. In your scenario, JHey might need to be running a lot (which may not be a bad thing). But I fear that in the lineup above, Esco could become a rally killer.

Escobar

is kinda funny, because he’s either a huge rally killer with all his GIDP’s, or he’s the guy driving in all the runs with his awesome OPS with RISP. He may kill a lot of rallies, but he’s still the best we have in hitting with RISP.

Or if not...

he’s big enough to scare the living piss out of anyone making the turn as he tries to break up a double play.

lets go Jair

I presume this is not on MLBN

Of course, they are showing the Yanks :(
It's not.

Start time 1:30 ET?

has it started? the MLB link for the radio hasn’t come up yet.

nor on XM

No XM coverage at all today, it seems. The weather radar suggests that there’s a window of dryness that will allow the game to get going.

No audio on iPhone MLB at bat 2010 app

This stinks. I have gotten very used to listening to the game at work in the few days I have had this app……

#FAIL

I don't know

why you think this will be the opening day lineup. We will be facing Carlos Zambrano, a RH pitcher, so Nate will lead-off and Melky will be the LF.

2 on for mccann

mlb gameday audio is working if you can get to the page

Is this one on the radio anywhere?

JJurr in the 1st: K, FO to 8, GO to 3. I like it.

Wow WTF

No audio?

gameday audio

is working, just not showing on the mediacenter page

Prado single; McLouth bunt single; E Pitcher – Prado to 3rd.
Chipper to first on FC which claims Prado at the plate.
Glaus batting – McLouth picked off between 2nd and 3rd.
Glaus walks. Chipper to 2nd.
McCann line out to Center. End inning.

My link on all of that...

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2010_03_12_pitmlb_atlmlb_1

ah thanks

sounds like a solid inning…except what’s the deal with McLouth getting picked off? That’s strange for him

That is ugly. 5 guys come to the plate. 4 get on base. 0 runs score. 3 outs are made. Ouch.

top 2nd

doumit singles to right
church flys out to left, 1 out

JJ

hitting 94

great

Hope he can get through 2 today.

His velocity can vary

Sometimes 93-94, sometimes 89-90. But movement and location always good and the change is always outstanding.

crosby grounds out to SS, runner was on the move on a 3-2 count, doumit to second

walker flys out to left, 3 out

Exxxxcellent… I imagine that’ll do it for JJ today.

Good inning for JJ, that's good news.
WIFN announcers

say they see a “funnel cloud that looks like a tornado” in the distance, not good

OMG, I would be running for cover!

Pulled up radar – there’s really nothing all at like that coming… though they may very well have a rain delay soon.

Hmm, for some reason the WIFN link is not active on MLB for me…strange.

rain

has picked up, and the window “is closing”

Must have been a very small window. :(
escobar

lines off the P ohlendorf, he recovers to throw him out

LET HEYWARD HIT!

Bzzzt! But thanks for playing!

Yet another reason too place him higher in the order. :D

Rain Delay
yep, right before heyward is to hit

The clouds should have parted for fear of being hit.

I'm the bad luck guy!

I swear! Last week, the MLBN blacked out the game and as soon as I logged on to the radio broadcast it went out of service. Then, I just got the audio going and they stopped play! Eff me I just want to see/hear the Braves!

Kudos to whoever picks up the obscure "we're the bad luck guys!" quote
I am not optimistic on continuing today

In about 10 more minutes, the rain will taper off significantly, and a very light patch will move in, but it won’t stop raining… maybe not for at least a couple of hours (depends on whether this system is being re-fed from the Gulf).

Yeah, and why risk an injury playing on a wet field.

Weather looks good for the weekend.

U know whats really ill about this lineup.

R
L
S
R
L
R
L
R

Very balanced.

favorable lineup...

swapping mclouth and diaz/melky makes too much sense and i know it’s been discussed…

vs lhp
diaz- 921 ops
prado
chipper
glaus
mccann
escobar
heyward
mclouth- .711 ops

vs rhp
mclouth- 824 ops
prado
chipper
glaus
mccann
escobar
heyward
melky- 730 ops/ diaz-

imo, melky provides no offensive upgrade over diaz in a platoon role, as i think diaz could outperform his own numbers given the plate appearances vs. righties are not few and far between.

I’d hit Heyward 6th above Esco when we’re facing a righty.

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yeah...

i do agree with you. i just tried to keep the lineup as steady as possible.

Game is on!

Heyward at the plate.

heyward grounds out to first

Hey guys. What’s crack-a-lackin?

diaz strikes out swinging, 3 out

jojo reyes in to pitch

Hello all...

dropping in to say hola….now going to watch my Vols play some basketball in the SEC tourny…all while pretending to work!

vazquez Ks, 1 out

bass singles to center

mccutchen singles to right, bass to second

cedeno doubles to left, 1-0 pirates

garrett jones pops out to short, 2 out

jojo reyes Ks doumit on a 3-2 fastball on the outside corner for out #3

bass walks jojo reyes on four pitches to lead off the bottom of the 3rd

prado walks on four pitches

mclouth Ks on three pitches, 1 out

I had a dream last night...

…that we traded McLouth for a boat load of cash and picked up Jayson Werth in the offseason….oh! What a glorious dream it was

And where would he play?

LF...

I’d assume, with Melky or Schafer in CF.

And then we’ll just get rid of MattyD?

No thanks on Werth. He’s already 32 and he plays in a hitters paradise. And he’d probably get something close to Jason Bay’s contract.

No…no contract at all. Just a boat load of cash, a boat, and his own personal stick with fire on the end of it to carry around in his free time. Gotta love that beard!

We’re giving him a boat load of cash, plus I assume we’d throw in the boat too, its a dream so I feel like anything is possible, so he’d play Center or Left. Unless he wanted to fight Heyward for right.

chipper GIDP 4-6-3…… ugh

Chipper is leading all ST in GIDPs!
wait

even more than Yunel?

tarp’s back out again, another rain delay
they might just call it

Just end it already

None of the players wanna be there anyway.

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