The Braves have one more shot to make the playoffs. Of course, once they do that, how far does anyone think this team can actually go? One school of thought is for the Braves to put their fans out of their misery today, and not prolong the suffering. But none of us want that do we. The Braves need to make the postseason for a number of reasons, not the least of which is to send Bobby Cox out as a winner one last time.
Here's the lineup Bobby will try to do this thing with:
That number to the right of each hitters' name is their September OPS. A whole lot of mediocrity in this lineup right now. One might call our lineup "replacement level" ... barely.
For those asking what the scenarios are that the Braves will clinch the Wild Card, here they are. If we win and San Diego loses, then we obviously clinch the Wild Card, and that would be the best scenario. Yes, we could conceivably force a one-game playoff even if we lose today, and San Diego loses. The most interesting scenario would be for the Braves to win and San Deigo to win. That would force a one-game playoff between San Diego and San Francisco, and the loser of that game would play us in a one-game playoff for the Wild Card. Any one-game playoffs that the Braves have to play would be played in Atlanta.
Regardless of scenarios, the Braves need to simply focus on winning today. Game time is 1:35pm. The Padres and Giants play at 4:05pm.
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nuftjedi - October 3, 2010
That picture says a thousand words (with four of them being present in the picture).
EricGreggWasPaidOff - October 3, 2010
I feel a win today.
EricGreggWasPaidOff - October 3, 2010
It looks like Bobby is trying to improve defense today, without sacrificing offense....
1. Swapping Infante and Conrad
2. No McLouth no-throws
3. No Melky
EricGreggWasPaidOff - October 3, 2010
The problem is
Ankiel is nearly as brutal as McLouth and Melky in the OF, though for different reasons. Since we traded Gregor Blanco, it’s just been a horrorshow in CF. I said it then and I’ll say it again: I’d rather have Blanco than Ankiel.
The Infante/Conrad switch makes perfect sense though, given Brooks’ apparent inability to make the 3B to 2B throw.
Jacob Peterson - October 3, 2010
Nearly"....but not "as
Ankiel may not be a defensive wonder, but he doesn’t run in circles like Melky, and he’ll actually make a strong throw in, unlike McLouth. It may only emphasize how terrible our CF defensive options are, but Ankiel has to be considered the best out of the three.
EricGreggWasPaidOff - October 3, 2010
I just hate watching Ankiel swing
It’s by far the ugliest I’ve seen in a while.
Undocorkscrew - October 3, 2010
Even with all his strike outs, he’s still be a better hitter than Melky the past month or two. :(
EricGreggWasPaidOff - October 3, 2010
Does anyone know if today's game is nationally televised?
EricGreggWasPaidOff - October 3, 2010
I don’t know but I’m hoping they play it on TBS.
Braves24 - October 3, 2010
TBS, ESPN or MLBN…..those are my only hopes.
EricGreggWasPaidOff - October 3, 2010
one more than me
ESPN or TBS
Braves24 - October 3, 2010
THOSE **** ****** ****** *******, **** THEM AND THEIR ******* YANKS/SAWKS LOVING *****!!!!!!!!
I just looked it up.
MLBN is showing Padres/Giants
ESPN is showing NASCAR
TBS is showing…..wait for it……Yankees/Red Sox.
EricGreggWasPaidOff - October 3, 2010
but, Padres/Giants game is at 4:05PM our is at 1:35PM
Kobe:The Legend - October 3, 2010
They’re doing MLB Tonight and a pre-game show before that.
Besides, they would never schedule a game with less than a 4 hour block. Too many people would be pissed off if they cut away early to go to another game, or if they preempted part of the game with the later starting time.
EricGreggWasPaidOff - October 3, 2010
MLB Network is doing a version of their nightly show from now til the West Coast game, so they’ll probably do some live lookins.
EastFallowfield - October 3, 2010
I think the offense (and defense) has been pressing all month, but especially this series. In less charitable words, they’ve been choking. This isn’t a great offense with the injuries, but it’s a hell of a lot better than they’e been playing, and from watching them, it really does seem like the combination of “trying to make the playoffs” and “trying to send Bobby out on top” is just too much for many of them (the end-of-season tiredness can’t help, either). It’s sad, but that seems to be the most likely scenario.
I hope Hinske and Moylan do something crazy in the clubhouse today to lighten the mood. They need it.
Jacob Peterson - October 3, 2010
Maybe Moylan will dance naked to techno music like Chipper was saying
They need something to loosen up the clubhouse…. Oh wait, WINNING would do that.
E-Lizz - October 3, 2010
Dancing naked to techno music.....
Wait…..what…!?
EricGreggWasPaidOff - October 3, 2010
Yeah....
I’ve seen Bobby laugh more this season than in seasons past… whether it was David Ross reminding him before every game that this is, indeed, Braves Country… or Peter Moylan in the weight room dancing in his birthday suit to techno music…. Sorry Peter, I had to do it!
E-Lizz - October 3, 2010
Hmmm half my comment was erased?
Anyway, this was what Chipper said in his speech yesterday.
E-Lizz - October 3, 2010
Why!? Actually, do I really even want to know why Moylan was dancing naked? No, I really don’t. Forget I asked.
EricGreggWasPaidOff - October 3, 2010
This has been one of my favorite Braves teams. It’s almost a during end for Cox. We’ve had so many good teams who have ended in heartbreak. It always happens in the playoffs though. Somehow we’ll get it done today.
mdhenshaw - October 3, 2010
i'm about to head down to the ted for this one
hopefully i won’t have to break anything on my way back
lingsched - October 3, 2010
If the Braves lose….break Melky, Ankiel and McLouth on your way out.
EricGreggWasPaidOff - October 3, 2010
will do
kids around me might have to earmuff it if we make another error
lingsched - October 3, 2010
should have broken Melky 6 months ago
then we wouldn’t be in this mess
nuftjedi - October 3, 2010
Not prolong the suffering? Are you serious? Does anyone not want this team to make the playoffs, even if we would get swept in the first round? C’mon guys
eaheckman10 - October 3, 2010
glad we only have 2 good hitters in september. thanks for showing up guys.
Braves Biceps - October 3, 2010
2 would be ok
but it’s never even 2 in the same game
nuftjedi - October 3, 2010
They have to alternate….
EricGreggWasPaidOff - October 3, 2010
Trades/Injuries has made the team in September way different from the one
that won so much in May-August.
BravesFanScout - October 3, 2010
The Reason for the September fall is
This isn’t the same team we had from April-August. We an almost completely different team in September.
The April-August lineup had a lot of: Glaus, Escobar, Hinske, Chipper, Prado, Blanco
The September lineup has a lot of: Lee, Gonzalez, Ankiel, McLouth, Infante
The fact is we ARE a different team in September. A lot of it is due to injuries, but trades have killed us too. We should have kept with Blanco in center and just let Freeman do his thing at first when Glaus started struggling. Also, Hinske hasn’t broken the starting lineup hardly at all this month… We used to be a team with a high OBP, now we are a team full of impatient guys that strikeout a lot.
BravesFanScout - October 3, 2010
what thing is freeman doing exactly?
yeah, he has played sparsely… but he isn’t hitting consistently. that is what the braves were afraid of. plugging him into a pennant race is just more unnecessary pressure. the kid is going to be great but i don’t disagree with that decision at all
lingsched - October 3, 2010
It's hard to say a guy has been inconsistent when he has only started a couple of games.
I think it is hard for anyone to come off the bench and get hits and that is almost all Freeman has been used for.
BravesFanScout - October 3, 2010
Lee has been on fire
eaheckman10 - October 3, 2010
The only trade that there’s a legitimate complaint about is Blanco for Ankiel. The rest is all due to injuries, or players suddenly not playing well (Infante, Hinske, Melky).
EricGreggWasPaidOff - October 3, 2010
I agree. I'm just saying that is why this team has struggled. We aren't the same team.
But I do think Hinske should have seen more time in the lineup that he has gotten over the past few weeks.
BravesFanScout - October 3, 2010
The reason he saw his playing time reduced is because he was slumping badly. He got overexposed from playing too much in the first half. Opposing pitchers started finding the holes in his swing. There is a reason why he’s never been a full-time player.
EricGreggWasPaidOff - October 3, 2010
But i would have still liked to see him in there occasionally than seeing Ankiel and McLouth
BravesFanScout - October 3, 2010
*Ankiel and MELKY
FTFY
EricGreggWasPaidOff - October 3, 2010
The problem with Blanco is that he’s a singles hitter with speed on a team that doesn’t run. He was a really poor fit for a Cox managed team. Ankiel has been awful, no doubt, but if Blanco was still here everyone would be bitching about how he has no power and questioning why he was playing when every other OF on the team at least had a chance to hit a few homers.
Zontar - October 3, 2010
Wait......don't we always win with Ross in the lineup?
And since it’s a lefty on the mound…..
Undocorkscrew - October 3, 2010
There are 2 Opening day starters on the lineup...
Two
SuperNewb - October 3, 2010
Anybody know who holds the tiebreakers in the TB/NYY race? They’re still tied. I’d love for the Yankees to get the crappy wildcard again.
BullManUGA - October 3, 2010
Rays
SuperNewb - October 3, 2010
Phillies Lineup
1. Rollins SS, 2. Polanco 3B, 3. Utley 2B, 4. Howard 1B, 5. Werth RF, 6. Ibanez LF, 7. Victorino CF, 8. Ruiz C, 9. Hamels P
great to see their regulars getting rest. I don’t wish injury on anyone, but you’d think with them continuing to temp fate that I wouldn’t have to wish it for it to happen.
liked this quote
I’m with Bobby, I don’t buy it either. not after seeing their hitters still in the game in the 8th inning when it was already over.
nuftjedi - October 3, 2010
Phillies have their A+ lineup in there today.
We are going to have to win it fair and square
BravesFanScout - October 3, 2010
I've gotta say I respect Manuel for this...
Some people would say it’s because he’s being an asshole, I’d say it’s because he respect the integrity of the game.
SuperNewb - October 3, 2010
I've gotta say I wish Manuel would DIAF for this...
EricGreggWasPaidOff - October 3, 2010
I hope at least two Phillies players have season ending injuries today.
EricGreggWasPaidOff - October 3, 2010
im with you
those being dicktorino and utley
Kobe:The Legend - October 3, 2010
I’d be happy with any two out of: Rollins, Dicktorino, Utley, Howard, Werth.
EricGreggWasPaidOff - October 3, 2010
Werth… we could sign him in the offseason :)
Kobe:The Legend - October 3, 2010
Check that...
Hamels and Oswalt.
EricGreggWasPaidOff - October 3, 2010
nice
Kobe:The Legend - October 3, 2010
Not ever rooting for it, but wouldn’t that really be something.
Or if they’re all so tired they end up getting swept in the NLDS because Country Charlie didn’t give them a break.
Yakker - October 3, 2010
OPINIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How about over the offseason the Braves work on Ross at 1B? He’s already signed and in the event that Freeman struggles against lefties……..wouldn’t that be a decent offensive platoon partner?
Undocorkscrew - October 3, 2010
Technically, one of Prado or Infante could play 1B. Hinske can play 1B. Glaus might stick around for cheap (if we want him). Diaz is supposedly already working on 1B. There are definitely options.
EricGreggWasPaidOff - October 3, 2010
I want more AB's for Ross...
…..he just looks like he can hit any and every lefty on a consistent basis. I know there are options, but Prado definitely needs to be at 2B. And Diaz…….[sigh]
Undocorkscrew - October 3, 2010
Why Manuel is playing starters
Isn’t possible that Manuel is simply playing his starters to keep their bats fresh? After today they are off until Wednesday. I heard an ex ball player say that he would lose some
of his bat timing during the short all star game layoff so………
IMSCREWBALL - October 3, 2010
That sure happened to the Braves during their playoff run. Manuel is doing the smart thing, keep them playing for wins. Braves just have to overcome that and beat the durn Phillies.
bighop - October 3, 2010
I have no problem with him playing them some
but to have them in all three games for most of the game is more than just about any other manager in baseball would do in the same situation.
I mean today it makes sense since it is the last game, but that doesn’t explain letting them in the game for almost all of the first two. if he is THAT afraid of their bats getting cold, then they have some serious issues.
nuftjedi - October 3, 2010
Well, they were incredibly inconsistent on offense.....
……for most of the year.
Undocorkscrew - October 3, 2010
I watched what seems like half a dozen Braves teams get put out of the NLDS after clinching early and resting. 100+ wins teams. There is something to be said for trying to win every game. The Phils have dealt with tons of injuries this year, keeping the team going makes sense to me. I hate them, but I certainly respect them.
bighop - October 3, 2010
Posted on the Thanks Bobby Facebook page
Bobby and the ’91 team watch the Dodgers lose on the big screen on October 5th and celebrate a division win.
SuperNewb - October 3, 2010
Is that Vinny Castilla I see?
Had no idea he was on the 91 team….
Undocorkscrew - October 3, 2010
Well now you know!
SuperNewb - October 3, 2010
And that's one hell of a picture, btw
Undocorkscrew - October 3, 2010
Brian Hunter FTW!
Yakker - October 3, 2010
Can we sign Francisco Cabrera to a one day contract?
DavetheDawg - October 3, 2010
I actually kinda like today’s lineup, all things considered. Have a good feeling about today’s games.
Yakker - October 3, 2010
QUOTE The Braves need to make the postseason for a number of reasons, not the least of which is to send Bobby Cox out as a winner one last time.
He already is a winner.
BravesFTW - October 3, 2010
The Braves have one more shot to make the playoffs. Of course, once they do that, how far does anyone think this team can actually go? One school of thought is for the Braves to put their fans out of their misery today, and not prolong the suffering
15ks - October 3, 2010
damnit
ate my quotes AND my comment? Forget it
15ks - October 3, 2010
anyone have a radio station that has the game?
Jtpdolphins2009 - October 3, 2010
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