The riddle of Nate McLouth is one that the Braves have had some trouble trying to solve since he was acquired from Pittsburgh. The player they thought they were getting is not the one who appeared in Atlanta. His OPS with the Braves is nearly .100 points lower than it was with the Pirates (.709 to .801). Of course, much of that drop in OPS is due to his horrible 2010 season, one in which he hit so poorly he was demoted to the minor leagues for over a month.
When McLouth was sent down to the minors in late July after returning from the disabled list for less than a week, he was hitting a lowly .168/.279/.265 -- pretty bad, and it certainly warranted minor league demotion. To McLouth's credit he took his demotion as a sign that he needed to fix some things in order to return to the Majors. He didn't complain, he didn't lope around the outfield, he took this as a time to work on the things that the organization wanted him to fix.
One of the big components of McLouth's game that needed fixing, aside from the broken mechanics of Nate's swing, was his confidence. McLouth, a humble ballplayer, does not attack every situation as he should, and that timidity lessens his production and defensive ability. This is one of the big things he worked on in the minors -- improving his aggressiveness.
McLouth also took the extra time in the minors to recover from an early June collision with Jason Heyward, where he suffered concussion-like symptoms for several weeks.
McLouth returned from the minors on the last day of August and restored his production to his career norms. He put up a .263/.358/.509 line the remainder of the season (better than his career line of .252/.337/.438), highlighted by an 11-for-33 stretch in his first 13 games back. Unfortunately, in his final ten games, McLouth returned to the lowly stats from earlier in the year, getting only four hits in his final 24 at-bats, and losing his starting job to Rick Ankiel for postseason games.
That final swoon could have just been a slump of normal occurrence that happens over the course of a baseball season, and hopefully not a return to the piss-poor McLouth we saw the first half of the season. All of this begs the question, "what can we expect from McLouth in 2011?" The answer is, "no one knows." It all started to go badly for Nate in spring training, when he started 1-for-22 with ten strikeouts through the first two weeks. All eyes will be back on him next year in spring training to see if he can pick up hits and limit his strikeouts early in camp. A hot start for Nate next spring will help his confidence for the whole season. Of course, another start like he had last year in spring training could do permanent damage to his psyche.
There's an argument to be made that McLouth is just regressing towards the kind of hitter he was in 2006 and 2007 when he struck out at a similar rate to how often he struck out in 2010. When we look back over his career, 2008 stands out as the one year that Nate performed well above his average production -- and parlayed that into a very nice contract the next offseason.
The Braves are on the hook for at least $7.75 million more in salary to McLouth (2011 salary plus 2012 buyout), so we seem to be stuck with him for at least another year. Perhaps with a possible free agent offseason looming, McLouth with raise his game in what could be the final year of his contract.
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Hopefully a new hitting coach can come in and help him
He has the talent, he’s shown that, but since coming over from Pittsburgh he’s never been the same, some of the blame, not all, but some has to be put on Pendelton, so the fact that he’s no longer in that role could help, depending of course on who we hire to replace him.
KJDH2154 - October 19, 2010
I really wish Chipper was our hitting coach this upcomming year
Even then McLouth should give him a call during the offseason
drumzalicious - October 19, 2010
Here's to hoping he has turned a corner
not that the team has much choice anyway, but if he can even be 75% of the guy he was in 2008 that would be about a 500% improvement over what we had in CF all last year.
nuftjedi - October 19, 2010
Here is what I’m hoping he is for 2011:
Moved over to play a solid LF and become a 20/20 guy again while we sign/trade/kidnap a top CF
OR
Moved over to play a solid LF and platoon with Andruw Jones while we sign/trade/kidnap a top CF.
ChrisK562 - October 19, 2010
In addition to sucking at the plate, he looked slow and often lost in the outfield. Hopefully the Braves don’t pencil him in for anything more than a platoon left fielder next season.
redwards95 - October 19, 2010
His throwing is no better
Did anyone ever see him make a throw from CF or LF to gun down a runner? You need to have someone in outfield to at least make an attempt. Can’t hit, can’t throw… 7 mil pinch runner. I hope his hitting does improve and then send him packing.
jaleemom - October 19, 2010
Like the Andruw Jones/Nate McClouth’s platoon idea alot. Would love to see Andruw back with us.
jkhan - October 19, 2010
i like the Andruw Jones idea also but we need power more than anythin and Andruw can no longer play center in my opinion
cjones2010 - October 19, 2010
Hope for Nate?
Not much. In 29 months of at least 25 PAs in his MLB career (Mar/ Apr count as 1 month, Sep/ oct count as 1, and June/ July of 2010 count as 1), he has hit over .300 4 times (14%). In 9 out of 29 months (31%), his OBP is over .350. Not sure what the real expectations would be, but defintely not .300/ .350 (that was arbitrary anyway). Extrapolating a standard deviation on his career #s, we should be really happy with any month in which he posts anything better .290/ .380. Satisfactory should be .260/ .333 (median). Realistic may be closer to .245/ .325 (avg of all months with > 25 ABs). That is crude, but enough for me to develop an expectation.
Couldn’t do any real analysis on his lack of interest in throwing the ball though.
CharlotteChop - October 19, 2010
What's his uzr? he seems to have significant value as a defensive player.
Londonjoe - October 19, 2010
Gold Glove in 2008, for what that’s worth. Meh.
FrediGonzalez - October 19, 2010
still UZR for that year indicated that he was still not great
LEastCoastBears - October 19, 2010
That’s the Gold Glove for you.
FrediGonzalez - October 20, 2010
NO idea on the UZR, I don’t have the slightest clue how to objectively value that. I think his range is fine, but I am puzzled by his arm, he doesn’t hit the cutoff man very well and has a terribly slow release. That might be a small sample of me remembering the bad plays, but I thought his defense lagged this year also.
CharlotteChop - October 19, 2010
UZR isn’t really effective for outfielders.
king of games - October 19, 2010
Why not?
Yakker - October 19, 2010
lol what
kbertling353 - October 19, 2010
McClouth pro/con
The walk rate is fine — 33 in 288 PA for the year, or .115 OPS just in walks. If he can hit .250 with a little pop, he’s workable. Historically, he slugs at .450 – .475, and he’s only 28, so I see no reason (barring injury) why he would fall off a cliff.
His BABIP in prior years was in the range of .270 — .300. This past year, it was .221. http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=3190&position=OF
He isn’t striking out more, so “bat speed” and vision are unlikely to be issues. If he had trouble with certain types of pitches and teams were catching on to this, it would suggest that he should K more often, which isn’t borne out by the numbers.
That sort of BABIP falloff is either insanely bad luck, or perhaps an injury. Is there any reason to believe he might have been injured? Mental health issues, perhaps (seriously)? The collision with Heyward was well into the miserable start to 2010, so that, of itself, is not likely a reason for poor performance. Oddly, when he came back, he played much better.
As far as the tail end of the year goes, he had the hamstring issue late. Perhaps this accounted for the drop off at the end of the year?
I really wonder about the possibility of injury or illness, even if not disclosed.
In any case, he seems like a very plausible candidate for a rebound year next year, especially with the performance after returning from the minors.
FrediGonzalez - October 19, 2010
ISO
Seems to me like the problem is that his power (as measured in ISO) vanished upon coming to Atlanta. Can’t quite figure out why that was, but potential explanations include: health, hitting coach changes, park effects, etc.
Yakker - October 19, 2010
That wouldn’t bang the BABIP that much, though. A few fly outs instead of HR wouldn’t account for all the drop off. I’m betting on rebound.
FrediGonzalez - October 20, 2010
I think someone else mentioned this on another thread (we’re all trying to figure out the mystery that is Nate McLouth July 2009-2010), but the BABIP could be a function of the added infield GBs. I did notice an increased LD rate (2 basis points) in his awesome 2008…
Yakker - October 20, 2010
Very good article!
Tarkus - October 19, 2010
I hope he can turn it around to his 2008 form
Braves24 - October 19, 2010
Personally, I’d love to see him included in a package for a solid and productive player or for young talent, even if we had pick up, say, half of his remaining contract, because that would mean saving the other half and, of course, being rid of him.
fandave - October 19, 2010
Fukudome.
king of games - October 19, 2010
This
HEYJUDE - October 19, 2010
At this point, I honestly don’t care about McLouth. He’s not going to be in the future plans of the Braves. I do hope he plays better so the Braves could possibly trade him.
Lowe and McLouth for Grienke sounds like a fair deal. I kid, I kid. Dear gawd, I hope no one takes this seriously. I even washed my hands afterward.
Sparhawk - October 19, 2010
MAKE IT HAPPEN WREN!
(He would need to be incarcerated for theft of that grand a scale, however.)
UMDBHIK - October 21, 2010
Woaahh!
His contract is way more easy to move then I thought. Regardless whomever he is traded to the team is not gonna pick up his option. I still honestly think that Nate, KK, and Eric O’ will not be on the Braves roster for the start of the 2011 season. JJ is still affordable and could / should easily return, he did regress this year but he still has way to much potiental so for the Braves to deal him they would have to get a player they truly and desperately wanted back in return.
Nate can easily be traded if that is all we owe on his 2011 contract is $7.75 million.
Go Braves come on Wren make the right moves, already love the fact that you have dumped Melky, Saito and Boscan now lets dump Diaz, Farnsworth, Anikel, and move forward.
Go Braves.
Holty_Panthers_Fan - October 19, 2010
I wonder when we will start reading
about how Nate McLouth is in the best shape of his life.
PWHjort - October 19, 2010 via mobile
my favorite offseason article.
Braves Biceps - October 19, 2010
hey
it worked for Prado why not Nate
drumzalicious - October 19, 2010
And
went in for Lasik surgery.
Yakker - October 20, 2010
I honestly
was kinda bummed that Nate wasn’t starting in LF during the post-season. He had started a slight slump but it wasn’t like his mechanics had changed he just wasn’t missing any gloves.
drumzalicious - October 19, 2010
Ok, we need to sign Cody Ross immediately
If only to play against the Phills.
king of games - October 20, 2010
We need Cody Ross, Wes Helms, and Willie Harris. We’ll cut our losses in half.
10-4 - October 20, 2010
Don't look now...
But Cody Ross is quickly pulling his salary out of our price range for a man of his talents.
Bidding war to commence soon…
-C
cthabeerman - October 20, 2010
yep. I expect the LOLMets to offer him about $140 mil over 7 years, ala Beltran.
Oh wait, Ross isn’t hispanic so maybe they won’t. Hard to say now with Minaya out.
Rhyno18 - October 20, 2010
He could change his name to
Rossaya.
UMDBHIK - October 21, 2010
but i thought many here didn't want cody ross when he was available earlier.
rubbles88 - October 21, 2010
We only want him so he stops killing us, and so that he can kill the Phillies as he’s been doing this series.
king of games - October 21, 2010
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