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Giants At Braves: 10/10/10 Open Thread #3

Finish this thing off thread!

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Let's fucking go CK!

No flyballs please. Just 3 K.

I’m at work, and I had gone to Publix to get some dinner and I was sitting in the parking lot at work listening to Hinkse’s at-bat. I almost broke my dashboard when he hit that homer.

1 out!!!

And Conrad nearly gave me a heart attack.

Seriously..he knows Lee has multiple gold gloves right?

NO MOAR RUNZ THREAD

THIS IS BRAVES COUNTRY

Conrad

FT OUT!

dammit

Conrad dont do that

geez Conrad lmao

2 more outs!!

WTF is Conrad doing!!!

conrad get out of the way

Damnit Brooks. Stay away from the ball!!!

How pissed are the people in San Fran right now?

I hear the familiar sound...

Of stomping….and romping….

LOL BROOKS WHAT WAS THAT
1 more check to go!

1. No hit – check
2. Multiple hit inning – check
3. Win Game.

Brooks Conrad sucks

he’s a disaster. we GOT SO LUCKY with Hinske but Conrad should not see the field again in the playoffs. Hinske or Glaus at 3rd, Infante at 2nd. PLEASE

C'mon

"K"imbrel!

The energy...

is so 1991.

Conrad on that play: Derek, I got it! I got it! I got it! I CAN catch fly balls! I promise!!!

Lee: “Hmmmm…..I don’t know about this….”

cue the Fry pic

he's like the little engine that could

but can’t.

Can’t hate on a guy with TWO PH Grand Slams though….

Hahahahahah! Nice!

(and yes I can hate on him…)

Brooks loves the haters.

98 MPH cheddar cheese

Kimbrel, throw strikes.

99 FROM KIMBREL LET"S WIN THIS THING!!!

Not liking that.

SHIT!!

fricken walked him

Alright alright... 2 outs come on now.
VIDRO, WITHOUT INVOLVING CONRAD!!

I swear, I will go Crocker on you…

I’d prefer a 2 K Vidro.

Also known as the hyphenated vidro….for the long pause between the outs.

We’re halfway there.

UMDBHIK

for Prophet.

Bobby still with the

hater blockers (sunglasses)

Where was the slider?
short leash Bobby

rookie who threw 33 pitches on Friday

Careful here…

He has called taht pitch a strike so many times...
Keep an eye

on the runner

lets just make sure Conrad never plays again

NEVER AGAIN. and where is MCLOUTH!?!

STFD!!!!!!!!!!!

Backwards K...STFD!!!!!!

SWING THE BALL! SWING THE BALL! SWING THE BALL! SWING THE BALL! SWING THE BALL!

HIT THE BAT HIT THE BAT HIT THE BAT HIT THE BAT HIT THE BAT

STFD!

Now!

shocked

he gave us that call

LOLBrenly trying to sound smart. “Small sample size….”

thanks for the swing there

Sanchez

Kimbrel’s Better!!!

Keep swinging at crap....I love this.

thats probably what giants fans think about us when we swing for the dirt

he cant catch it

blow it by him

FUCK!!!! Fucking slider

Good pitch. Bad locating.

shit

no Dunn please…

Huff hits lefties better than righties

But.....

percentages!

Bobby doesn’t check percentages or stats, he just goes with his gut.

truthiness FTW!

Hmmmm…..this is interesting.

no, this is a nerve killer… i’m going to be shaking for the rest of the night

Hmmmm…..this is interesting.

i miss wagner
Braves postseason baseball: Giving fans heart attacks since 1991

And ulcerative colitis.

colorectal fissures

I'm about to join Elizabeth

Sanford and Son reference!

Ain’t that the truth.

dont take kimbrel out plz
WHY Bobby?

Huff hits lefties better than righties.

How would Bobby know that!?

And he’s already given up a hit to him in game 1.

And again now in game 3

Obviously didnt read my offensive preview. Fool.

Right move to pull Kimbrel?
not sure

he was not throwing strikes, but was over powering

kimbo rules

only likes to have him start an inning, and doesnt trust him to get out of jams

He was missing a good bit

So I think it’s not a bad decision

We’re about to find out.

Finish them off!!!!!
GET IT DUNN!!!
So Said so Dunn
dunn

let’s do the right thing. no more drama needed

Do the Braves ever just win a game 10-0 or does it always have to come to the last at bat ?

I hope they’re saving that for tomorrow.

Have you watched this season?

Dunn=Done

Let’s go!!!

Good Start

for Dunn

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Fuck

why did we bring in Dunn

Should have left him in:(
THIS IS FUCKING RIDICULOUS

Good throw gets him? Probably not.

It might have…

Yeah, you’re right. Really not a good throw at all.

FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
You're a fucking fool Bobby.

This is exactly why you only won one world series.

GO AWAY YOU INSIDE TROLL

Wow.

Bobby’s move is the reason we have 2 runs right now.

It isn’t Bobby’s fault that our offenses shit the bed in the playoffs.

Is this serious?
yes it is. he's the worst braves "fan" ever

he is fairweathered as they come and a total quitter. and they let him write on here

you're a fucking reactionary fool

shittiest mod ever

This

+infinity
green this ish

I know I'm late on commenting

But this is the truest thing I have ever read.

IM DONE WITH THIS SHIT
Deuces!!!!!!!!!
AFTER ALL THE GAME IS TIED.... SO WE MUST BE LOSING

i cant believe this. so fucking cruel. if we lose this…

One out and he doesn't get it.
*sigh*

Shouldn’t have left that “Rainbow llamasaurus” post up for so long, waiting on them to win it….my bad

And Mac tripped on the bat. Shit.

Moron needs to get the bat out of play after he leaves the box

Ump should have done it.

i honestly dont know what to say.

Um, TBS, that wasn’t the on deck circle.

well that sucked

we had the win

fuck the giants

all tools

Baseball gods are not letting us win this without more heroics...
Not sure what gods have to do with it.
haha...someone must hate us for all of this bad crap to happen...
Not a great throw from Heyward

too far off the line

I thought he had a good shot, before the throw was off

Yeah

Good throw gets him. Really good throw gets him easily

No it wasn’t a good throw at all.

Didn’t look like he had much chance anyway with the runners going on contact, still, not a good one.

Bobby Cox Bullpen Management: LULZ!!!
Damn

can we score another run

We could be going to the extra innings with nothing left in the bullpen

I’m kind of hating Bobby’s bullpen management right now.

I'm sure you would have pressed all the right buttons here

We have Saito, Beachy and Martinez left.

WHY NOT KEEP IN KIMBREL

I wondered that myself.
No good answer to that.

Just a bad move.

Kimbrel wasn't throwing strikes

He might even ahve been bailed out on Torres with a strange call

You know bobby....
Guys... it's okay... just setting up the walk off.
I dont want a dang walkoff, I wanted the game to be EFFING OVER

We still have the bottom of the ninth, folks.

And, we aren’t losing…

Just setting up the dramatic Heyward walkoff
It's bad when even the TBS announcers know Huff hits lefties

and this was a risky thing to do. And we do it anyway.

Fuck Dunn

Should have left in Kimbrel.

We are burning up the bullpen

And I don’t understand why

Not at all clear

So we’ve got Farnsworth and Martinez left at this point. Anyone else?

that was full of fail

after we got the only good hit all night

How many shots of Lincecum yelling “FUCK YEH SHUT UP!” is TBS going to show?

lol

I was wondering that too

i was just thinking that… and wondering how a douchebag that looks like a medieval page boy/ professor snape/ every serial killer on television is actually good at something

This is seriously on Bobby.

He walked Sandoval in Game 1 which let Cody Ross drive in the winning run.

He takes out Kimbrel, who has closing experience, for Dunn and blows it.

I’m ready for him retire. He’s a great regular season manager. He’s horrible when it matters.

Bobby didn’t walk Ishikawa.
Bobby didn’t give up the hit to Torres.
 
Kimbrel throws strikes the game is over.

100% Agreed

It is so easy to second guess choices with 20/20 hindsight… but for shit sake, I didn’t like those moves before they happened, let alone afterwards.

So is Saito healthy or not?
Irrelevant, he's not on the roster.
Umm didn't he replace Wags?
Did he?

I thought they were to wait and see.

Far as I heard Wags is done until the WS at least.
Facts.

Never let them get in the way.

i really cannot believe we let this gift slip
don't see us hitting wilson again
don't see us hitting wilson again
idk if our offense can get it together again

Get the out and win in the bottom of the inning

One more out

And we can walkoff!

Jesus

Moylan throw strikes

Please let us get out of the inning.

OMG

FUCK YOU CONRAD

jesus christ
WOWOWOWOWOWOOWOWOW
WE LOST

I AM DONE WITHG THIS FUCKING TAEM!!!
DSA-9GF2IUQ23ITRF

well

you got to be shitting me

Conrad again.....I give up
Diory Hernandez
zz

FUCK CONRAD! MOTHERFUCKING FUCK CONRAD!

Brooks Butner

FTL!!

3 errors

oh my lord

Wow. I just have no words for what transpired.
 
Why is he on the field?

wow

just speechless now

conrad again and again

FUCK YOU CONRAD!

OMG FUCK CONRAD
FUCK YOU BROOKS CONRAD.

Goodbye Conrad

Nice knowing you

Better try to witness a crime so you can be in the witness protection program.

Burn in hell Conrad
WHERE THE FUCK IS DIORY??????
I Brooks is in the next game...

I may not watch.

and that's why Brooks should not be out there...dude is just horrible on D
Why is Cozx Changing Pitchers

We need to bench Conrad for anybody even the batboy

Guys, chill. He’s trying his best out there!

so would my mother but she's not playing 3B
and he still sucks...thus he should not be out there.
BEST?

Best? Seriously? 3 errors = best?

No, he shouldn’t be in the game at this point.

He'll get an ice cream cone after the game, cuz trying to field easy ass plays & wiffing is all that counts
dude....

how. how did this happen. why would this happen. wtf

Why is Booby changing pitchers? It was Brooks who fucked up
OH MY BAD the fool is trying right??

Pistol in mouth

Jesus... holy... hell
Bobby Cox, you suck.

I thought you left when we lost this game back in the 6th inning?

Look at the scoreboard.

We went from losing because we couldn’t hit the ball to losing because our manager is an idiot.

We went from losing, to winning because our manager is a genius, to tied because Kimbrel couldn’t locate to losing because Conrad sucks.

I love how you only appear when we are losing…

What the hell are you talking about?

Bobby’s been managing for this long and doesn’t understand the concept of a defensive replacement? Doesn’t realize that Kimbrel has the best stuff in our pen by far? Doesn’t understand that Huff hasn’t had trouble hitting Dunn?

Kimbrel’s “best stuff” put 2 runners on base.

Thanks Brooks. You cost us the game you piece of shit.
uncalled for
actually its completely called for

the math is undediable

Oh really? Could've sworn he's cost us 2 runs so far.
brooks conrad is the worst fucking player ive ever seen....
Conrad fucking sucks

and I normally hate the Bobby trashing… but no fucking way should Kimbrel have come out… seriously, wtf

Bobby deserves the bashing. During his entire career he does crap like that
Giants gameplan: Hit it to 2nd baseman FTW
Ayep....go with what works, eh?
seriously conrad just costs us the game
how is conrad still playing

fucking gave up 2 runs

This is awful

God awful. We had this game fucking won.

Wow

guy is single handedly winning this series for the Giants

Just fuck Conrad. Call up my grandmother from AAA to replace him.

HOPE YOU FUCKING INJURE YOURSELF YOU MOTHERFUCKER PIECE OF SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!

He better not be in the lineup tomorrow. 3 errors and a popped up bunt. Not to mention the many other mistakes and he can’t hit anything. There’s being loyal and then there’s being stupid.

Agreed

He’s been absolutely awful this series.

brooks conrad

should leave Atlanta tonight, and never come back.

honestly

Why in the F would we not go with a defensive replacement for Brooks in the 9th?!?!?!
brooks conrad needs to be released

i mean seriously he needs to be released immediately at the conclusion of the season

BOBBY COX: GO F*CK YOURSELF

YOU BRING IN 5 DIFFERENT PITCHERS?! YOU LEAVE CONRAD IN THE GAME ?! WHAT HTE F*CK ARE OU DOING

Why is he STILL on the field?

i cant watch anymore, im leaving
Brooks Conrad the most hated player in Atlanta right now
Not sure

why Farnsworth is in

I think we should all cheer Brooks. He’s trying his best, and maybe our words of encouragement will inspire him to do better.

This is getting old.

Not to me.

then you cheer him

as he sits on the bench.

Weren’t you the one hating on him earlier? He doesn’t need to be in the game in the 9th. he just DOESN’T.

Um, Justin is being sarcastic.

EXACTLY...Bobby screwed up royally leaving him out there...why he wasn't subbed is beyond me
GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU STUPID PIECE OF SHITTTTTTTTT

HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN OUT OF THE GAME AFTER THE 2nd ERROR…BUT IF HE IS IN THE GAME, BOOING HIM WILL NOT HELP MATTERS.

They certainly couldn’t hurt…

EAT GLASS AND DIE
Dude chill. Brooks is a pile of shit right now
and he should be on the bench...like I said an hour ago...I just dont think you boo him

when he is not the one who made the decision for him to play knowing that he is good for at least 1 error per game.

Why do you continue to ignore the fact that Bobby Cox has not committed 3 fielding errors that have led to 2 runs?

yeah and third time offenders should be given a clean slate

STFU

STFU!!!!

Kimbrel tried his best but got taken out the game so why should Conrad be given a break after 3 games of manure

Because booing him and calling him names is going to make up for his athletic deficiencies.
 
Riiiiight.

If you're joking

Its funny. If not, you’re dumber than I thought you were. Either way, fuck off. Your douchbaggery is unwarranted.

Welcome to the thread. Please catch yourself up before interjecting into things you know not of.

Bobby being Bobby
WHY DID GLAUS NOT START @ 3B?

WHY WHY WHY? INFANTE AT 2B!!!

So wheres Diory?

Hopefully Farnsworth will throw a wild pitch into the Giants dugout that hits Lincecum in the head

That may be are only hope now

why did bobby take out Kimbrel? Why is Bobby ruining this game?

Bobby ruined htis game.

11 for 6 is tough when it's 6's fault in a loss.
brooks conrad is the most hated brave ever imo
WTF is Brooks still in this damn game? Bobby I want to smack the crap outta you!
I can't wait for Bobby to retire.

Heyward/Lee/McCann in the bottom half.
 
If we can keep it 1 run, we can do this.

234 in bottom of inning.

I never thought

losing Martin would hurt this bad.

Obviously Brooks misses San Francisco

Wants to go back there for game 5 -I say we win this game, tomorrow and send him back with THEIR team.
He’s practically playing for them anyway.

z

Dan Kolb or Brooks Conrad? Who is hated more?

If I could kill two people

between Osama bin Laden, Adolf Hitler, and Brooks Conrad, I’d kill Conrad twice.

What’s wrong with you?

Not Conrad's Fault. It was Bobby's. HUFF hits lefties better than righties. LOOK AT YOUR MATCHUPS.

Unbelievable
That was a terrible managerial call. Huff has a much better chance of hitting a lefty throwing 90, than a righty throwing 96. Look at the batter your are matching up with if you’re playing Matchups. This isn’t freaking rocket science.

That is NOT Conrad’s fault
It’s COX’s fault for taking Kimbrel out. This is going to be your guy. Let him close it out. I am so fucking disgusted with this overmanaging arbitrary matchup coaching. Absolutely ridiculous.

It wasn’t Conrad’s fault he missed a routine grounder? HOW?

TWO routine grounders…

That routine grounder wouldn't even be a concern if Bobby managed the pitching better

If you can’t handle a routine grounder you shouldn’t be on a major league field.

Who put Brooks out there???

Who missed routine plays?

heyward and brooks

Who allowed a guy that has proven himself to be inept at making plays out there?

Do you expect every pitcher to strike out every batter?

Nope it's Brooks fault for chocking

Despite all of that, Conrad still fucked up. Bottom line.

seriously its one thing

to blame a matchup…

But Conrad has 3 errors…3

so bobby overmanages when he makes pitching changes, and overmanages when he leaves starters in too long?

make up your mind

Wait... I saw a ground ball hit to conrad... easily fieldable...

What did Bobby do? run onto the field and swat the ball out of the way before he could get it????

lets get this out before we get started on the bottom of the ninth
I'm done

I can’t stand this. I am so angry at Bobby for keeping Brooks out there. I’m not even mad at Brooks.

IT IS THE 9TH INNING, WHY NOT PUT DIORY IN?! WHY NOT LEAVE YOUR CLOSER OF THE FUTURE IN?!

This x a billion. Bobby did way more to lose this game than Brooks could even think about doing.

conrad really works for the MLB Network…he knows they need another all-time classic playoff comeback to air tomorrow

STFD

LETS TIE THIS GAME (OR WIN)

its not over by a long shot guys. the big boys comin up, its just a waste of 26 outs and an amazing clutch at bat by hinske

2-3-4 UP

GET UR FUCKING RALLY CAPS BRAVES FAN
THIS ISN’T OVER

HELL YEAH

JASON WILL LEAD US

It could have been if Bobby didn't pull the pitcher and took Brooks out
ok i guess we have to score again off wilson

gonna be a tough task

Can someone tell me why it has to hurt so much?

Matchups

LOOK AT YOUR ACTUAL MATCHUP if you’re going to pitch matchups. Huff hits lefties better than righties. Look at the MATCHUP. WTF????

if fucking son of a bitch of Conrad fields that!!!
he's not even in that position

if bobby just lets kimbrel face huff. LOOK AT THE NUMBERS.

I try to love Bobby, I really do.

He’s the best regular season of all time, but for God’s sake, I will never understand some of his shitty decisions.

What decisions?!?!

He’s only playing with what he has left to play with!

I'm fairly sure he, um, isn't using a 2nd baseman that understands how to play defense.
And what other, um, other options do we have?
His Decision to TAKE KIMBREL OUT

Was a BAD matchup decision. Huff hits lefties better than righties and Cox clearly didn’t KNOW that. It was stupid on any statistical vector you look at.

its safe to say we need to win this game if we want to win this series

i doubt we can score versus lincecum

It's not Brooks

It’s Bobby Cox. Why Bring dunn in there. Explain that to me. ANYONE, I defy you to explain how that change makes ANY sense if you’re even remotely paying attention to what you’re actually doing.

I don’t want Conrad in a fucking Braves uniform again

Wow

If it wasn’t for this guys heroics earlier in the season where would this team be?!?!

This time 10 cubed.

And what about his failures earlier in the season? You can’t forget about those.

yeah,

it gets even. still in the playoffs

I hope brooks hits a walk off

see how much you dambasses hate him after that

It's not Brooks

It’s Bobby for taking Kimbrel out. That was a BAD matchup and he clearly DIDN’T KNOW the NUMBERS.

No it's Brooks & Booby
i refuse to watch

if he’s in the game tomorrow… he single-handedly loses games for us

Every game we lose a Conrad error is the reason
RUNSRUNSRUNSRUNSRUNSRUNSRUNSRUNSRUNSRUNSRUNSRUNSRUNSRUNSRUNSRUNSRUNSRUNSRUNSRUNSRUNSRUNSRUNSRUNSRUNSRUNSRUNS
Why

in a series featuring Braves errors so heavily, did we have to get the announcer that cannot pronounce the word.

I swear that makes this so much worse.

BOBBY COX HATERS

SHUT THE HOLY HELL UP. PLEASE

Man hope

the team doesnt feel like the rest of us do. Guts ripped out

i hope the team doesnt kill conrad…or maybe i do

Wow come on over a freakin GAME!!!!
It's not Brooks' fault.

I feel for him. It’s Bobby who’s too hidebound to see that Brooks is simply defensively incapable of doing the job of a starting infielder.

Hidebound? Anyway it is Brooks;s fault for not making simple plays
What other options do we have?
Glaus...

he can’t field worse, and hits better.

Yeah ok keep thinking that
How can he do worse in the field?
Unless the ball is hit directly at him you'll see!
I saw Brooks,...

Glaus is as good at least.

Can we possibly have patience this at bat?

Yo!

This will make VICTORY EVEN MORE SWEET!
GO BRAVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NOT a strike dammit.

The shit's outside
Let's go Braves
get the truck up and running
FUCK THAT

WAY OUTSIDE

Bullshit. That wasn't a strike

NOT A STRIKE!!!!!!!

WOW!

Heyward is NOT happy!

And if Heyward gets that worked up, you know the call was bad.
not a fucking strike
FUCK THAT UMP...SERIOUSLY SOMEONE HIT HIM IN THE FACE WITH A BAT
Utterly terrible call.

Not much you can do when the ump just wants to end the game ASAP.

wowwwwwww emmelll
Eat shit and die, Emmel.

WHOA? A pitch NOT called a strike!

shouldve been a walk smmfh
FUCK THESE GUYS AND THEIR CALLS
Fuck you emmel. Go to fucking hell
1 BALL IN THE ZONE + 0 SWINGS = K
Bullshit ump. If its not ourselves screwing it up its the Umps
damn

not going to hit much with the approach of tying it with one swing

Sorry if I pissed anyone else off.

But it’s my opinion, and I’m pretty sure I can have whatever opinion I want. If you don’t like it, im sorry.

YOUR OPINION IS BAD AND YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD!

I think you are right about Bobby
emmel has been fucking us all series

Only 2 pitches were strikes of all he threw Heyward

actually

only 1

paul emmel

needs to be investigated… seriously,

FUCK emmel...if he isn't suspended for this then the MLB was def setting up a Phils/Giants NLCS

HE HAS FUCKED US ALL GAME.

WHY WOULD YOU SWING.
Ugh

terrible swing 3-1

I cannot believe this at all
Lee needed to walk there...
that dude is a joke. how was that a strike.
WTF with this ump 4 balls and he called 2 non strikes as strike
Bobby Cox lost this game

by taking out Kimbrel
NO Mistake. That was the error that lost the game.

that was very foolish
Along with brooks
if there is a baseball god

mcann hit

THAT WAS OUTSIDE TOO!!!!
if there is a baseball god

mcann hit

jesus

impossible to tie it with this strike zone

Ump and Brooks are pieces of shit
Blame bobby

for takign out Kimbrel. If you’re playing matchups DO YOUR FUCKIGN HOMEWORK and see if it’s actually a GOOD MATCHUP!

I’m not sure you realize this, but Farnsworth got a ROUTINE GROUND BALL that the fielder fucked up tremendously.

Blame Brooks TOO
I honestly hope emmel gets hit by a fucking bus on his way home tonight

My god this umpire is terrible beyond words

I'm really fucking pissed at Paul Emmel, too
If you notice

Emmel doesn’t set up directly behind the plate…always closest to the batter.

There's still hope....
BMac

Please don’t tease us Nate….. DO this.

If Nate walksoff, the team should give him another cold shoulder.

Oh fuck

Nate – redeem yourself for the whole season right here!

Why not pinch run Diory?

what

Ross is pinch running?

Yeah….Bobby Cox Bench Management: LULZ!

Where

the fuck is Diory

Waitaminute

Our last hitter is MCLOUTH?

Man, that was a good pitch to hit

Triple scores Ross!

WHY IN THE FUCK ARE WE PINCH RUNNING A CATCHER?!?!!?!?!?
FOR ANOTHER CATCHER
Also, hi!

Just got home to see Conrad made three errors, including one a few minutes ago to give up the lead. Awesome.

OMG! NOT A STRIKE. FUCK THIS GUY

this is fucking ridiculous
somebody kill this guy
Man talk

about a heartbreaking weekend. Bama loses and now this shit. lol

no kidding

worst weekend ever

Wow

everything is a strike now

That wasn't a strike
Fuck the outside corner
YOU SURE THAT WASNT A STRIVE ABOVE HIS HEAD YOU POS!!!!!??????
Well look

Their 2nd baseman can make a routine play. God fucking damn it.

Fuck this shit.

We don’t deserve to win anything.

Fuck Paul Emmel. Fuck Brooks Conrad.

Gotta beat Lincecum to advance now.
 
Bumgarner tomorrow.

FUCK US....That sucks so fucking bad.

MVP: Brooks Conrad.

that was fitting nate
Bobby Cox for the LOSS
conrad
Who started him at second?

Bobby did.

And Bobby knew he was commit three errors?
If Bobby was paying attention this last week, he should have known that was a distinct possibility.

Brooks Conrad is not capable of fielding at a major league level at second or third. It should have been Diory out there today.

Brooks has not been this bad before

The mental weight of his struggles is hurting him. That error in the 9th was a 1/1000000 type of thing, something no one expects. You can blame the manager for not predicting that, but it’s not his fault. Bobby just doesn’t have a lot to work with.

He's got Diory Hernandez.

Cornad: Bad bat, no glove at all.
Diory: No bat, ok glove.

We’ve already seen how errors can absolutely kill this team’s chances in literally dozens of games this season. Given that, how can Bobby in good conscience run Conrad out there, knowing that the man can’t field his position?

It’s just a refusal to think outside the box. That’s on Bobby.

Conrad was a decent hitter during the season

Decent, not great. I guess because he’s not hitting in the series that means he sucks? Maybe we should take heyward out too.

he lost a fucking extremely important game with his own two hands
Mostly pinch-hitting, so favorable-ish matchups

And not against high-level pitching like the Giants are throwing out there. Given his track record (not just from this season), you can’t expect much out of Conrad’s bat. Bobby acknowledges that by having him sac bunt in every close spot in this series. Diory can lay down a bunt just as well as Conrad.

There is a difference between their offensive value, but because neither of them is likely to do anything valuable with the bat, you’ve got to look to the glove. And there, it’s just no contest. Conrad isn’t capable of major league defense, and Diory is. He should be starting.

Stop making excuses for Brooks
I don't get this attitude.

Do you think defense isn’t a skill? Do you think you or I could go out there and play second or third base in the major leagues? If not, then you should be able to acknowledge that it’s possible, even likely from what we’ve seen of Conrad that he simply is not capable of competent defense, just like, for example, many pitchers are not capable of competent hitting.

If Bobby had Derek Lowe hitting cleanup, you’d have no problem calling that a bad call on his part. And yet when he obstinately continues to make Brooks Conrad try to do a job he’s not good enough to do, noting that is “making excuses for Brooks.” Why? It’s Brooks’ job to attempt any task his manager gives him. But it’s Bobby’s job to know when a guy is not capable of getting the job done.

yep
Reminds me of some of the playoff losses during our 1990s runs.

Bobby over thinking shit.

STFU bitch, all because of Conrad
Would a capable manager let Conrad out there?
I guess Conrad wrote his own name on the lineup card.

Player-manager Brooks Conrad!

I guess Bobby flubbed those 3 plays then
It isn't Brooks' fault he's not good enough.

And it isn’t his job to take himself off the field for suckitude. Bobby is supposed to evaluate players and make these decisions, and Bobby has failed to make the right call in this case, with catastrophic (though not entirely predictable) results.

I don't get this

Please explain

You’ve made ONE comment ever before this game. I’m not sure you realize that the players on the field were the ones that lost this game, most notably Brooks Conrad, the baseball “player” at second base who made two errors than cost the team two runs and countless pitches from Hudson.

NO

Look at Huff’s Numbers right v. lefty. He’s a better hitter against lefties. Bobby clearly didn’t even KNOW that because there’s NO OTHER REASON to make that move. NONE.

MY POINT IS

Conrad’s never in the position to make that error after Kimbrel gets out Huff. No way huff catches up to hard throwing righty as he does against softer lefty. Cox “worked” the matchup RIGHT into Huff’s FAVOR. That is unforgivable.

Again

Kimbrel wasn’t really throwing many strikes. He’d already allowed two baserunners. And Mike Dunn isn’t exactly a soft-throwing lefty either.

Dunn is not a softer lefty. Even if Kimbrel stays in Brooks still could've screwed him up too.

Farsnworth induced a ROUTINE GROUND BALL that any number of not shitass baseball men could convert into an out.

Murphys Law smmfh

Good night and thank you, Mr Conrad……

emmel should lose his job for this fucking disgraceful performance
So, if Gameday was working, I'd love to show just BAD that 9th inning outside corner was

Fucking horrible.

They showed it already. I don’t think anyone here needs any convincing.

I want it on the internet for posterity

and eternity, too

Brooks Conrad

has given the Giants their wins this series

I wish he’d fly back for game 5 on their plane instead of ours.
Will he wear their uni tomorrow?

No

It was bobby cox for taking out Kimbrel

No it was Brooks. Stop acting like Kimbrel would've automatically gotten out of it. He did allow 2 runners.

I don’t get this. He is completely unable to accept the possibility that Kimbrel would have not gotten a strike out.

Brooks

may need to switch teams after this season is over. He is not gonna be liked at all in Atlanta anymore after that. lol

this postseason loss brought to you by

Bobby Cox’s poor postseason management
Brooks Conrad’s inability to play defense
and Paul Emmel’s desire to fuck us at every base in the series

The whole southeast

wants to get a piece of Conrad right about now.

Doesn't matter what anyone else did. We had that game won

and bobby cox lost it by taking kimbrel out against huff. that was a retarded call, based totally on a matchup “advantage” that didn’t exist b/c Huff actually hits lefties better than rightes

The game was not won at all.
All you fuckers blaming Brooks need ask yourself why he was out there in the first place???

He should have been on the damn bench wayyy before today when it became apparent that he was incapable of playing even the most basic defense.

you are fucker dumbass, Cox is not playing out there
Yeah but he decides who plays and he is to blame for putting a guy out there that is an

absolute error machine.

I guess Bobby gets full credit for everything that happens on the field?

Well congrats to him for using Hinske to get the home run. All you, Bobby.

No you 2 fuckers blaming Bobby %100 need to ask yourself did Bobby boot the easy grounder.
He wrote the lineup card which put Brooks Conrad in front of that grounder.

And that is on him.

wagner injury factored into this

every injury factored into this one.

Giants were cheating

they had 11 eleven men on the field

a designated fielder and the ump

Why cant Conrad make routine outs
he does

when hitting.

Sad but true. Oh wait I guess it's bobby's fault he can't bunt, field or hit
No it isn't.

But it isn’t like it was the 1st inning. It was the bottom of the 9th and we had a narrow lead. Brooks shouldn’t have been in the game at that point.

As for the popped up bunt – that’s on Conrad.

I believe Chris Rainey has a message for Brooks Conrad...
timmy

guaranteed to face timmy again. crap, we have quite the up hill battle now. shit!

This loss is Bobby Cox's fault

and his alone. Don’t blame Brooks. It is on Bobby that he was out there in the 9th.

What about in the 2nd…?

Man on 3rd no one out

I don’t feel right blaming Brooks for a run that almost certainly would have scored anyway. PLUS, you can’t tell me that Brooks at 2nd is any more viable than Glaus at 3rd, he could have started and moved Omar to 2nd.

Not to mention Brooks error was just the go ahead run. I still say Kimbrel gets the save if he stays out there.

No. If Heyward makes that catch, which he could’ve, nobody’s running.

What that makes no sense! oh it's not his fault cuz the run would've scored anyway.

What BS. As we’ve seen there are no guarantees. It was his fault.

That is true, but like I said

I blame Bobby for starting him anyway. I still say it is on Bobby.

Seriously, put Diory out there, start him, in the 9th whatever.

Bottom line is Bobby is responsible for putting together the lineup, f-ed up.

Conrad is

OUR Bill Buckner

No

It’s is bobby’s fault that he toook out Kimbrel. We had the game won and he gave it way by not recognizing that lefty-lefty is a bad matchup against Huff

You can hate on Bobby

all you want. He has to deal with what he’s got. He doesn’t pitch, play defense, or hit….so it’s on the players…plain and simple.

agreed

But there is some level of responsibility in leaving a guy in at 2B who has NO BUSINESS AT ALL BEING THERE.

I’m not blaming it all on Bobby. Players have to make plays, but the opportunity for Conrad to make that error should have never even been there.

I agree to. There is plenty of blame to go around, but putting %100 on Bobby is stupid.

I put a lot of it on Bobby because his mistake was the final one. Meaning, he had a chance to correct all previous mistakes. he didn’t. Therefore, he had the last chance to make it right, deserving of the majority of the glame.

But he could have put Diory out there for the 9th

He could have left Kimbrel in to pitch against the guy that owns lefties instead of putting a lefty out there.

Diory can field 2nd. Period. When you’re up in the top of the 9th you put your best defensive players out there, especially when you’re not taking offense off the field to do so!

That too, that's why I said it is on Cox.

I disagreed with that call just as much. But people are jumping all over Brooks, when Bobby is the one at fault.

Just wanna check in and say

MOTHER FUCK YOU BROOKS!!!!!!!!!!

Good news about tomorrow:
 
Emmel will be at 3B and likely will be able to have little influence on the outcome.

like...

when he was at second in game 1?

Mark my words something will go down over there. Emmel, screwing the Braves one base at a time.
Well our postseason is over
No it's not.

we have at least 1 more game. It’s a best of 5, not a best of 3.

No shit

but we’re not beating lincecum.

or winning in san fran

We did before.

My pessimism/instinct says not its not happenin
Don't be so sure.

I know it’s crazy but Timmy did not have his best stuff. The Braves hitter just need to relax & lay off the 55ft dirt balls.

Can we trade Conrads for a ham and cheese sandwiche

I hope that Conrad stays in his home and never come back to play baseball, what a tool

You cant win when one of your player had more errors than the starting lineup (excluding the pitcher)

Conrad = 3 errors
Starting Lineup (Without Pitcher) = 2 hits

Yes you can

B/c he’s never in the position to get the 3rd error if Bobby leaves in Kimbrel v. Huff which was a BETTER MATCHUP against huff. Huff hits lefties better than righties.

HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS?

HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT KIMBREL WON’T HAVE A BALL HIT TO SECOND BASE?

JESUS TAPDANCING CHRIST!

If you're making matchup decisions

LOOK AT THE FREAKING MATCHUP. Huff hits lefties much better than righties you idiot.

Kimbrel

Could have ended up walking Huff….then who knows after that….Let it go, man!!

WOW! Did you practice to be a moron or were you born this way?

I’ll ask again since you seem to be unable to read. How do you know Kimbrel does not induce a ground ball to second base? I don’t care what the bloody matchup is. Farsnworth induced what 99 times out of 100 is an OUT.

Yea

He was throwing heat but control is sketchy at best sometimes…..It’s over you can second guess all damn night…but you know what??? We f’in lost. We come back out tomorrow and try again. I will go with Bobby on this any day. Remember how long he’s done this? And how long have YOU managed an MLB team???

MY POINT

Is that if you’re PLAYING MATCHUPS, you LOOK AT THE ACTUAL MATCHUP.

You are the one looking the idiot! Stop acting like kimbrel would've ended the game no problem.

He started the mess to begin with.

All you Cox apologists are just clueless.

A manager worth his weight in salt recognizes that Conrad has been awful defensively at 2nd base and puts in a natural 2nd baseman (DIORY) at the position in the top of the 9th.

That same manager also doesn’t take out Kimbrel. Let’s not even discuss pinch running a catcher for a catcher (which didn’t matter, ultimately).

Giants MVP

Brooks Conrad

Never thought it'd happen

but Bill Hohn is no longer my least favorite ump

One strike away, One Conrad out away

who knew that Brooks Conrad is over any Phillies player in my most hated list.

and WTF with this offense

just 1 walk against a pitcher who usually walks a lot, but

1 walk, 11 K

PATHETIC

on a positive note...

umm…..

There’s a game tomorrow, which is very winnable

very?

Yes, why not? Lowe’s on the mound. If the offense could show up we can win

Conrad will be drinking a pina colada the rest of his life in the Bahamas.
I would put that guy on suicide watch
I really wanted to forgive Conrad (if we got the win)

but this Guy calls off D Lee then his next opportunity he cost us the game..Again

We're also forgetting that Conrad popped a bunt up

a mortal sin in baseball

I almost forgot that

Can we trade him now for a ham and cheese sandwich

haha romo gets the win
Emmel has cost us 1 and a half game

the other half was Conrad

Damn I wasted 5minutes worth of fist pumping

after Hinske’s homerun.

Conrad has wasted 30 years living.
okay that was harsh.

but i hate him.

It's not tomorrow that worries me

odds are that we’ll win that one. It’s game 5 against Lincecum. We be screwed.

Lincecum's not going tomorrow on short rest?

I guess that’s kind of good news, although not really, for the reason you point out.

No probably not

I’d honestly rather have lincecum tomorrow

There's no reason

that we can’t beat Lincecum. He was awfully wild the other day. If we can calm down we could probably beat anyone.

We need to finally learn that we can’t swing at everything he throws in the dirt.

I know. I just hope we can over the next 24 hours

Bobby needs to send Conrad to Kawakamiville.

I bet KK laughed his ass off after this game.

Now there’s someone more hated than him.

We can't hit wild

14Ks will testify to that. He’ll be amped up as hell too. Throwing some serious gas.

It's never good when your Errors outnumber your Runs

I don’t want to read 1 post game comment about “tipping their cap” to anyone. We gave them that game.

I tip my cap to Huddy and to Hinske

that’s it.

This, too.

Huddy was absolutely amazing. And Hinske was clutch.

True, I was meaning our team tipping their cap to the other team’s pitcher etc.
Between our swinging at balls in the dirt and our errors, they didn’t have to do much to get that one.

I know, I know. I realized that the second after I posted it. I’m just too pissed to think straight

This.

So damn much this.

Bobby...

Mismanaged this game, I don’t see how anyone can even dispute that.

But he didn't LOSE the game

and I don’t see how that’s up for dispute either.

maybe not...

But he didn’t help much either. Diory Hernandez is useless with the bat so he has to be on the roster for later innings defense… How do you not put him in the game? If he’s not there for that situation then I can’t imagine why he’s there at all.

Hernandez

Can’t be as useless with the bat as Conrad. AND, the error doesn’t happen if Kimbrel stays in against huff,

Yes it does if a groundball is hit to Brooks.
Hernandez

Is actually WORSE with the bat than Conrad. But it doesn’t matter: Conrad is bad enough that you lose very little on the offensive side, and Conrad is SO awful with the glove that it’s basically a high baseball crime to have him play infield.

Funny

How he was a genius when Hinske hit the homer…..now he’s the goat….I am not totally defending him. But if we had been more patient or had a competent umpire behind the plate and actually hit the ball…we wouldn’t be having all this hating on Conrad or Bobby.

This

Jason has been VERY rough in this series but every called 3rd has been completely awful. Not even close.

Giants strategy tomorrow and game 5 - hit the ball to Conrad!

If Bobby values his nuts, he won’t put Conrad in anymore.

they dont need that, they have Emmel

Giants strategy tomorrow and game 5 games 1-3 so far – hit the ball to Conrad!

i mean if there is a game 5
I think after 3 games and just under 10 errors

Its clear that Conrad should be in the American League as a last option designated hitter

Conrad was our hero when he was just pinch hitting. He is not suited as a regular infielder.
Diory Hernandez anyone?
this ump called Emmel is really sucking

1st game – 2nd Base Ump: called safe an out that later would score the only run of the game.
2nd game – 1st Base Ump: called out Alex Gonzalez Groundball when Huff wasn´t stepping the 1st base. He tossed Cox.
3rd game – HP Ump: called strike, 5 or 6 inches outside pitches.
4rd game – 3rd Base Ump?

HP Ump: called strike strikes, 5 or 6 inches outside pitches.

FTFY

Say what you want about mismanaging

Brooks Conrad is a professional baseball player. He gets paid a lot of money to make routine plays like that. No excuse

Kenshin Kawakami is a professional baseball player

Who is paid a lot of money to pitch. And yet, that is not a justification managers can use to actually ask him to pitch if they have better options available.

You have to think your fielders can make that play.
But Bobby doesn't know what play is going to need to be made.

All that he knows is that Conrad is far less capable than Diory Hernandez of making any of them. And therefore, the right call is Conrad out (of all the games), Diory in.

No justification, just fact.
I've had enough for tonight...

…gonna try and think of something else the rest of the evening.

Nite all.

If it worked last time...

I leave you guys with two quotes:

“That which is sowed in tears will be reaped in joy”
-Psalm 126

“You get another hand soon after you fold”
-B.o.B

I still think we can win the next two games. Try and not kill anythng tonight. See everyone later.

I already punched a hole in my wall during a Falcons game a few weeks back.

I am holding my breath and counting to 1000 to try and make it through the night.

The whole team played like crap today

If we could have put together ANY offense, at any point in the game besides the 8th, we most likely win.

SIGH

Can we let

Chino manage tomorrow?

and not let Conrad into the park?

I give up, Im done watching baseball this year

Chino

did seem to let our pitchers pitch on Friday and he did remove Brooks from the game for defensive purposes… Hell, he’s got my vote

Yeah when you look at those moves, Chino had to be calling the shots.

No way Bobby replaces Brooks that game, but leaves him in after 2 erras.

Alright.

Looking forward to winning the next two games. Night y’all.

who to blame?

1. Conrad = 3 errors. cost 2 unearned run a lot of unnecesary pitches to the pitchers.
2. Bobby = bring Dunn ot face Huff
3. Emmel = Crazy Strikezone
4. Starting Lineup offense = 3 hits (1 from Hudson) 1 BB (Lee in the 1st inning), a ton of K, 0 Run.

Add to Bobby's ledger

That he was the one who decided to start Brooks at 2B over Diory Hernandez or Omar Infante (with Diory playing 3B).

Bullshit Bobby cost us this game. Pure and simple
With the help of stone hands Brooks.
If we had Wagner...

damn. Injuries are killing us. We need Chip and Prado back.

Bobby Cox big Donkey balls

Ok I get it, Bobby loves Brooks because he reminds him of himself. Thats why he will play his horrible glove over Troy Glaus, Eric Hinske and Diory Hernndez. Why in the fuck would you leave him out there after even the FIRST ERROR!! This is the fucking playoffsBobby you don’t get second chances!!
Bobby sucks, I can’t stand it. 20 years of this shit I have watched. All totally blowing it in the playoffs. Taking out Kimbrel was unbelievably stupid but having Conrad in there after you got a lead was unforgivable. If Diory makes that error, I can forgive that because you are trying to at least put the better fielder out there. Not doing that just tempts fate and fate bitchslapped Bobby AGAIN.
GOd I’m glad he gone.

post game quotes from DOB Twitter

Conrad: “I feel terrible. I wish I could dig a hole and sleep in it.”
Hudson: “We love Conrad more now than ever.”

Wouldn't you love him more after he did something good?

That goes against the principles of behavioral conditioning.

Maybe they love losing winnable games?

They do love Conrad

Now they can go play golf on Tuesday because of him

THey’re still millionaires win or lose.

Fuck them

looks like

the team already has Conrad on suicide watch

f Brooks

those weren’t plays that an above avg fielder makes. those are plays that any competent-below avg player makes. it was embarrassing watching him and embarrassing that #6 did not remove him from the game.

I betcha Hinkse doesn't
I think Hinske's next fist pumps

are going to Conrad’s skull.

The one good thing?

is we are one loss closer to the F Gonzalez era!! One would hope that he won’t get outmanaged in every big game like #6. Also maybe TP may go too!:)

If you think Gonzalez is the answer you are lost.

We will probably hire him but we will be sorely disappointed.

Fredi Gonzalez IS Bobby.

Completely conventional, by the book, no-value-added manager. And he doesn’t have Bobby’s legendary rep or rapport with the players to make up for it. Christ, I hope he isn’t our next manager.

I know

but we all know he is going to be the next manager and quite frankly, I got tired of #6 in 1998. so ANYONE at this point is an upgrade to me.

Chino as Bobby’s replacement FTW

then some ump should toss Bobby early in the game
Where will be umpiring Emmel tomorrow?

if he will start on 3rd base, i would try to hit him throwing the bat from HP

and when i run throught 3rd base i would make a “Gaby Sanchez”

what about this lineup tomorrow?

Infante 2B
Heyward RF
DLee 1B
BMac C
Glaus 3B
Hinske LF
Gonzalez SS
McLouth CF
Lowe P

Diaz instead of Hinske in LF because Bumgarner’s a lefty… but other than that I think its spot-on

the real question is...

what lineup will they really go with?

hmm

because it’s #6’s last game:
Infante
Heyward
D Lee
Diaz
Gonzalez
Conrad
Ross
Cabrera
Lowe

why would he suddenly do anything different?

Glad to see Melky's no longer in the 5-hole.
Prefer Hernandez over Glaus.

Just tired of defense beating us.

I would agree except we badly need offense too

Basically a matter of taste.

I feel like it will hurt more to watch them bumble their way around the field and play like Little Leaguers than it will to watch their slow strangulation at the plate.

I don't see why you don't leave Kimbrel in

Is he the closer or not? Everything indicated that he was filling in for Wags. These others guys aren’t used to closing. You don’t pull Wags for a matchup and he shouldn’t have done that to Kimbrel either.

it's bobby

just be surprised he wasn’t changing pitchers mid ab.

Wow

Blew that one.

I’ll be there tomorrow still. Go Braves.

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