Here is a catch-all post to talk about what you think the Braves should or should not do at the trade deadline. (Rosterbation is allowed, though not encouraged.)
Mark Bowman just twittered this:
It still appears that the Braves will stand pat before today's deadline.
A whole lot of nothing so far, which is fine with me.
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Adam Dunn
michaelcooksey - July 31, 2009
i would cream for this
as long as it took 3 of our prospects from #s 23-28
apoxonbothyourhouses - July 31, 2009
I would expect at least the demand of Schafer or Heyward, followed by 2 other prospects.
Tim Goad - July 31, 2009
Rosterbation may be discouraged
But if we landed Dunn, I’d rosterbate until I went blind.
Bobby Cocks - July 31, 2009
Not that we really need to do anything
But if we do make a deal, let’s just hope it’s either with the Mets or Tigers.
It’d be nice to get a ridiculous rip-off deal at the trade deadline.
Bronn - July 31, 2009
Don't be quiet!
Drop Norton
Trade KJ to Oakland for Weurtz as Oakland is looking to move O Cab
Call up Conrad.
Activate Omar.
Send Schafer, Medlen, Kotchman, B. Hicks, and Brandon Jones to San Diego for A. Gonzalez and H. Bell.
Sparklemotion - July 31, 2009
u serious?
esadb - July 31, 2009
Of course that is not serious.
That a boy - July 31, 2009
All of it looks serious except the last part.
esadb - July 31, 2009
how can anyone be serious with a user name of “sparklemotion”????
someone likes cult classic movies.
Sparhawk - July 31, 2009
Donnie Darko??
SayHeyWerd - July 31, 2009
Sometimes I doubt your commitment to Sparkle Motion
Cracker! - July 31, 2009
haha! thats a great movie
why dont you go suck a fuck!
SayHeyWerd - July 31, 2009
That would be awesome for us but I don’t see San Diego going for it. I say Medlen, Brandon Jones and another prospect to the Nationals for Dunn. We’ll have him next year in left, McClouth in Center and Schaefer in Right. Dunn will allow us one more year to develop Heyward.
michaelcooksey - July 31, 2009
The Nationals, just like the Padres, wouldnt take anything less than Heyward and a slew of other prospects for Dunn or Gonzalez.
Tim Goad - July 31, 2009
I am willing to bet they’d take less for Dunn than the Padres would take for Gonzalez based soley on the fact that Dunn’s contract is a lot less friendly and shorter.
michaelcooksey - July 31, 2009
The Fathers have a top prospect in the wings at 1B and the Red Sox and a few other teams have shown some serious interest in Gonzalez – which Towers has listened to. I think we could get him if we include Medlen, Schafer, and Kotchman.
Sparklemotion - July 31, 2009
Yea, but im also sure the Red Sox would have to give up Buchholz and Bard along with 2 other prospects for Gonzalez and thats more than we can afford to offer.
Tim Goad - July 31, 2009
More realistic:
Freddie Freeman, Randall Delgado, Brett Devall, Jordan Schafer, Low-A/rookie pitcher
esadb - July 31, 2009
O gawd, The Padres would start with Hanson and Heyward not Freeman.
That a boy - July 31, 2009
And FW would say no.
esadb - July 31, 2009
FW would choke on his Five Dollar Footlong and laugh uncontrollably.
Tim Goad - July 31, 2009
Please stop the rosterbation you will go blind. That package wouldnt even get us Peavy which Towers wanted to get rid of because of salary. Gonzalez is going to cost a team its top at least 4-5 of its top 10 prospects which Boston is discussing with the Padres. Buchholz, Bard, Masterson, Lowrie and Westmoreland is the start for what its going to take.
That a boy - July 31, 2009
Dunn over Gonzalez
I would prefer Dunn
Dunn AVG: .276 HR 26 RBI 74 OBP 405
Gonzalez .252 29 59 .394
His contract is shorter and although it pays more, it would get him out quicker and allow Heyward to have an additional year and allow Freeman’s arrival to not be blocked by Gonzalez who is under contract through 2010 as well, but has a very affordable option for 2011 (5.5 million).
michaelcooksey - July 31, 2009
McClouth in Center and Schafer in Right???Schafer has very good defence and McClouth has poor arm,
I’ll say Schafer in CF and McClouth un LF.Dunn?just forget it
p7682 - July 31, 2009
That package isn’t even 50% of what it would take to get Gonzalez and Bell. Most of those players suck and/or have limited upside.
redwards95 - July 31, 2009
i think it would HAVE to be...
Schafer
Medlen
Freeman
Robrhrough
for Gonzalez
then KJ and Kotchmann to CWS for Alexei Ramirez and Jordan Danks, OF.
then B. Hicks and B. Jones to KC for R. Mahay and Michael Montgomery, LH
apoxonbothyourhouses - July 31, 2009
"then B. Hicks and B. Jones to KC for R. Mahay and Michael Montgomery, LH"
We dont want Hicks and Jones, why would anyone else?
esadb - July 31, 2009
Because a team with common sense would see Jones as a potential XBH machine and someone who can get on base.
Tim Goad - July 31, 2009
You dont think the Padres look at prospects in other farm systems?
From what ive read, everything Rohrbrough has touched has turned to shit, Medlen isnt as compelling as he was when he was still in AAA and Schafer is injured.
KJ cant hit outside of AAA this year, so the CWS would laugh at that trade offer.
KC might actually bite on that proposal, but why would you want to make it?
Tim Goad - July 31, 2009
Good Job !
Hey I like the idea !!!
Only part that sucks is losing Medlen and Schafer but I doubt they would want Schafer b/c he is still out w/ a bad wrist.
Good trade ideas I would do them.
Holty_Panthers_Fan - July 31, 2009
I am willing to bet the Braves make a move. I love the way they are always under the radar with business. We do need to make a move though teams that we will be fighting for in the east and wild card have gotten stronger. The Marlins are about to get Nick Johnson, Phillies Lee, Giants Sanchez, Cardinals holliday and the day isn’t over yet. Not that any of the moves make these teams great but it does strengthen their teams. We are going to get a bull pen arm at least.
That a boy - July 31, 2009
But the Braves did make moves already
McClouth and Church.
Andy Braves Fan - July 31, 2009
both “under the radar”
VivaLosBravos - July 31, 2009
I’d like to see the Braves make a run at Adrian Gonzalez, but I haven’t seen any indication that they are trying to do anything big like that unfortunately. I’d guess Wren will make a move for a right handed middle reliever, somebody who can share the 7th and 8th inning duties with Moylan this year with the possibility of moving to setup or closer next year. The biggest improvements the Braves will make from here on are likely to be releasing Norton, sending down Hernandez and Valdez, and recalling Infante, Conrad, and Hudson.
redwards95 - July 31, 2009
Washburn traded to the TIGERS???
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
Yea..
smells like the deal we made with Renteria.
A player over performing his career numbers and gets traded to the Tigers for a great young pitcher and a promising outfielder.
Tim Goad - July 31, 2009
Nah.
Robles < Gorkys
French < < JJ
Yakker - July 31, 2009
Q. How do you have a post on the Braves trade dealine moves and discouage rosterbation?
What else would there be to talk about
Sparklemotion - July 31, 2009
Things that are true. And not dumb
esadb - July 31, 2009
Double true.
Tim Goad - July 31, 2009
68th and Broadway
step on it sucker.
VivaLosBravos - July 31, 2009
What you wanna do Chris?
Snack Attack mother-fucker!!!
Tim Goad - July 31, 2009
Truth be told, none of us no anything about what the Braves are going to do
Sparklemotion - July 31, 2009
No
but rosterbation is bad.
Andy Braves Fan - July 31, 2009
So I hear you guys like rosterbation.
esadb - July 31, 2009
I gave that a “thumbs down”
VivaLosBravos - July 31, 2009
Kevin Towers may be the dumbest GM of them all...
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
We knew this from the Peavy non-trade
How’s that non-deal looking now Towers?
Andy Braves Fan - July 31, 2009
it’s looking like he is the dumbest GM of all!
lol
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
Exactly.
The guy is trying to emulate the Pirates but he wants WAY too much to become like them.
Tim Goad - July 31, 2009
well, if you don’t set the bar too high, you won’t fail, right? lol
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
Yea, but if he really wants to battle for bottom feeder-ocracy, he should just deal Gonzalez to us for Medlen, Barbaro, and Brandon Jones.
Tim Goad - July 31, 2009
Well
He tried to hold teams hostage for a reasonably priced, young ace with a history of arm injuries and questionable mechanics….
Andy Braves Fan - July 31, 2009
Well Gonzalez does play 3 times as many games as Halladay….
redwards95 - July 31, 2009
lol…touche’
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
Correction: Minaya is the dumbest GM of them all...
From ESPN.com…
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
Good point.
Andy Braves Fan - July 31, 2009
This is a confusing statement. The METS are turning down trade offers from other teams? Who could the METS possibly have that other teams want?
Also, the part where he says “if you talk to some GMs around the league, I’ve been calling around.”
WTF? Is he trying to PROVE that he makes phone calls, like we don’t believe him or something? It is like a 3rd grader telling a story to his freinds and saying “If you don’t beleive me, ask Bobby. He was there.”
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
Hahaha…sounds like old dude they just fired, Tony Bernazard, went to Minaya’s School of Hyped Up Egos.
Tim Goad - July 31, 2009
+1
for making me laugh
RichmondBraves - July 31, 2009
gotta love Omar :)
BigG1392 - July 31, 2009
I think he means he turned down an offer from the Royals for Francoeur.
redwards95 - July 31, 2009
hahaha
oh gawd, how right you probably are.
Sparhawk - July 31, 2009
This is probably the best portrayal of Minaya at work.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NisCkxU544c&feature=related
Tim Goad - July 31, 2009
Congrats
on two lonely island references in one thread.
VivaLosBravos - July 31, 2009
Oh, I got their CD.
Good stuff.
Tim Goad - July 31, 2009
Do you guys know what is good?
The Steak Dip sandwich at Jason’s Deli!
MMMMMMM!
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
A reliever....
I do understand that we have hudson coming into the fold in a few weeks, but I still would not mind getting a reliever who we could control for a few years, such as capps or frasor or qualls. It would come at a price, as these relievers are controllable, but it would give us a quality guy if we were to lose Gonzo and/or soriano, and the draft picks that we would get for one or both of those guys would probably have similar value to the package we would give up to get a new reliever. Just an Idea, probably one that is not going to happen, but still one to at least consider because it can help us this year (adding another arm takes away the wear and tear from our current arms), and as mentioned above, provides us with support next year.
bravesbeast1985 - July 31, 2009
This
Provided the price is right.
Yakker - July 31, 2009
Zzzz....
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
Yeah
Orlando Cabrera, Claudio Vargas and Jason Washburn, what a f’in snoozer of a deadline day so far. There always is a 3:59pm deal that wows though, these days.
Cracker! - July 31, 2009
Prediction
Duchscherer is next to go. Billy Beane doesn’t fuck around.
Cracker! - July 31, 2009
Interesting…
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
O-Cab is gone.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4369219
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
i noted that above, and it just furthers my confidence in Billy Beane not fucking around :)
Cracker! - July 31, 2009
Release Greg Norton and replace him with Brandon Jones
Send down Diory Hernandez and call up Chris Burke
That needs to be done before any trade happens. Norton cant catch up to 88 mph fastballs and Diory is nothing more than an offensive liability. Jones would replace Norton as the lefthanded bat off the bench.
I would try to package Jo-Jo Reyes and some A ball prospects for another reliever.
Some names:
Michael Weurtz, Jensen Lewis, Brandon League, Jeremy Accardo, Brandon Morrow, etc.
FreeBarryBonds - July 31, 2009
No one wants jo jo reyes
and why does no one know that Greg Norton is a switch hitter
esadb - July 31, 2009
I know it! Does that count?
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
At this point he may as well bat with one hand. He is useless. I would rather pinch hit Chino Cadahia…
FreeBarryBonds - July 31, 2009
Johnson is the LH bat off the bench. Norton is a switch hitter.
JoJo and scraps would not be enough to land any of those pitchers you listed. JoJo should not be considered the centerpiece of any deal.
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
He wouldn’t be. Some A ball prospect like Cody Johnson would be
FreeBarryBonds - July 31, 2009
That's a pretty big detail
to omit
VivaLosBravos - July 31, 2009
FFFUUUUUCK
WANT MLBTR NOW
YOU NEED A BETTER SERVER, TIM
esadb - July 31, 2009
Red sox acquire Victor Martinez
oh shit
esadb - July 31, 2009
source?
Cracker! - July 31, 2009
MLBtr
esadb - July 31, 2009
it isn’t on ESPN.com yet…it CAN’T be true!
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
a twitter report is solid
whatchoo talkin bout
Cracker! - July 31, 2009
for true?
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
MLBTraderumors
FreeBarryBonds - July 31, 2009
I suppose.
rterftytr
esadb - July 31, 2009
Still no word on what they gave up.
blitzerlover - July 31, 2009
Noe being reported Bowden and Masterson are the main pieces in the deal. Up to 3 other prospects may be in it also
blitzerlover - July 31, 2009
Bryan Price
Yakker - July 31, 2009
Seems weird
How many 1Bs dot hey need?
Yakker - July 31, 2009
ESPN says Buchholz is involved…
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
Gotsa link?
esadb - July 31, 2009
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4368061
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
lemme try again
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4368061
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
Thats from earlier today
This is different
esadb - July 31, 2009
Probably the same basic package though…
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
i hope so, for Buchholz. Now he can be in a starting rotation like he deserves to be
RichmondBraves - July 31, 2009
meh
this is a definate “sell high” case, IMO.
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
Red Sox
like old ass decrepit pitchers, Buch never fit into their plan
Cracker! - July 31, 2009
sans Lester
Cracker! - July 31, 2009
I think he is vastly over-rated. Yeah, he had the no-no…lots of average to below average mlb pitchers had them too.
I think he will be a flop. Just my opinion though.
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
Me too. A la Anibal Sanchez
FreeBarryBonds - July 31, 2009
and Jonathan Sanchez (I think that was the Giant’s pitcher’s name)
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
bogus
he’s legit
VivaLosBravos - July 31, 2009
He is 17-27 with a 5.08 ERA career wise. That is less than legit my friend…
FreeBarryBonds - July 31, 2009
mlbtv isn't even talking about it
Shitty coverage. Instead we get 20 minutes devoted to George Sherrill…
Cracker! - July 31, 2009
but he was an Oriole, my 3rd favorite team behind atlanta and washington! That’s a HUGE IMPACT MOVE
RichmondBraves - July 31, 2009
your two favorite teams are in the same division?
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
NVM...
I see the connection now…Richmond.
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
yeah
Braves will always be #1 in my heart because of my childhood, but I still feel for the Nationals. I want the braves to go 162-0 and the Nationals to go 142-20(if Washington played Atlanta 20 times)
RichmondBraves - July 31, 2009
lol
I never got attached to the Nats. I was born and raised in the Hampton Roads area (Poquoson, to be exact), but went to Florida for college in 2003. I really could care less about the Natinals.
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
The rest of the division
would have a really bad record.
VivaLosBravos - July 31, 2009
How much are the Padres asking for Bell?
A crazy amount?
blitzerlover - July 31, 2009
Probably an arm, leg, and right testicle
FreeBarryBonds - July 31, 2009
he’s too good and too cheap to trade. if someone wants him i would make them give up everything they have as well.
RichmondBraves - July 31, 2009
then they shouldnt be trying to sell him then. It is like a house…no matter what you paid for hte house, what you put into it, what it is appraised at or what you think it is worth, it is only worth as much as people are willing to pay for it. In certain economies, you cannot get full return or value for your house.
Towers should set the market instead of trying to chase it.
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
worst case scenario they keep him
Best case they get a boat load of prospects. 99.9% chance they wouldn’t get all they want for him, so overall it’s mostly just a waste. I wouldn’t actively pursue trades but listen and tell teams how close their offers are.
RichmondBraves - July 31, 2009
yeah, but that isn’t what Towers is doing. He is selling a product that nobody can afford to buy right now. bad business.
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
yeah i agree
His name should have never even come up in any serious way.
RichmondBraves - July 31, 2009
i asked Duk at Yahoo what's up with the Braves.
He gave the same answer as everyone else in the world could give. Essentially he said…
You’d be amazed at all the nude pictures that came up when I searched for I dunno
RichmondBraves - July 31, 2009
i'm going to have to verify that
Cracker! - July 31, 2009
haha
VivaLosBravos - July 31, 2009
Rosenthal confirms.
esadb - July 31, 2009
wowser
unless Halladay or Gonzo go, that’ll be the biggest trade of the day.
Cracker! - July 31, 2009
no way…O-cab to the Twins! lol
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
ESPN – the worldwide leader in sports, will be last to report this…WWL my ass!
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
doubt it
mlbtv just confirmed the Doyle Alexander trade
Cracker! - July 31, 2009
Hey all, how’s the most boring day coming?
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
ugh…it is much more fun to argue with people who think Frenchy is a good baseball player.
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
I would do that any day over the trading deadline
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
MLB network’s coverage is lame…
FreeBarryBonds - July 31, 2009
no, MLB network is lame
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
you too eh
Cracker! - July 31, 2009
yeah, i watch it on occasion ; usually when I need to go to bed
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
Ha
I’m getting the feed from my work desk, so I guess it’s not fair to complain
Cracker! - July 31, 2009
Anyone know the prospects in the Vmart trade?
esadb - July 31, 2009
IDK, but the Tribe recalled Camona and another OF from the minors…
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
*Carmona
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
do you think that indicates something?
trade wise?
Cracker! - July 31, 2009
Possibly…they had a roster spot open from the Lee trade (I think), but they called up another OF too…maybe to replace Martinez, which means they would now have a full roster…hmmm…my brain hurts.
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
Angels look like they may be dealing for Heath Bell. Called up Sean Rodriguez and Bobby Wilson with only one free roster spot open…
FreeBarryBonds - July 31, 2009
justin- NAHWAL question: no computer for me tomorrow, where should i put my guesses?
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
well,
I will get tomorrow’s up tonight sometime, so you can post then…if not, just email them to me or someone else. the first question will be Final Score and the third, I have no idea yet.
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
how soon is tonight, because i gotta leave at like 7:30 latest. I love beingJewish
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
lol
fine, just email them to me.
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
alright, will do
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
Dag
I was really hoping we would have done something . . . . im not to fond of standing pat while basically every team ahead of us upgrades.
drumzalicious - July 31, 2009
+1, but I think we can’t because we have literally NO money left to work with
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
we beat everyone to the punch…they are the ones playing catch-up, not us.
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
agreed
The McLouth and Church trades were done at the right times, no waiting for a deadline with Wren. Plus, we can work a waiver trade later if we make another push.
Cracker! - July 31, 2009
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
yup. We also have Infante coming back too.
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
And Buddy Carlyle!
VivaLosBravos - July 31, 2009
I really do think we’re set. Buddy wasn’t that bad last year, so he’ll be a good addition along with KK/Huddy and we all know how good Infante is
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
hmmm
i kinda disagree.
The McLouth move was made out of not wanting to have someone like Blanco as our everyday CF. Nate has been pretty good. Going into the break he was on fire but since then he has been terrible aside from a ..348 OBP he has a .302 SLG leaving him with a .650 and a .208 Batting Average.
Church is a guy who has been just as bad a FYF was when he was here almost. Only difference is Church has a higher OBP but a lower SLG. yea getting on base is nice with some walks but not with a lot of hits.
I dunno i just see both of those deals replacing the production we already had in a sense. McLouth is an upgrade over Schafer but who’s to say Schafer wouldn’t have been putting up similar numbers. His first few days he was destroying the ball and same thing in ST. He injured his wrist in the first week of the season and went down hill from there.
We could use an upgrade at a couple of spots (RF and 1B) IMO as well as getting Acosta out of the pen.
But it’s whatever its 3pm and i doubt something will happen.
drumzalicious - July 31, 2009
VMart update
apparently, the Tribe is giving up more than just Martinez…
http://twitter.com/injuryexpert/status/3055512903
I can’t read this (no twitter at work!) but this came from the indians SB open thread.
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
this is what it said
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQssF0v8_I4
bravesguy311 - July 31, 2009
RIP billy
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
He was def the man. That shit is hilarious though. I think Billy would have laughed. A must see for everyone
bravesguy311 - July 31, 2009
Somehow, Buchholz and Bard are not in the deal
esadb - July 31, 2009
hahaha
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
has to be casey kelly then
VivaLosBravos - July 31, 2009
somehow is not a person
it kinda sounds like thats what i said
esadb - July 31, 2009
Shapiro got buggered.
Yakker - July 31, 2009
again…
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
I know, right?
Is he trying to get fired?
Yakker - July 31, 2009
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
lol…
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
Whoever posted earlier that Towers is the worst GM in baseball
May in fact be on to something. Word is they asked for Andrew Miller and Cameron Maybin for Heath Bell. Dude must be batshit crazy.
bravesguy95 - July 31, 2009
wasn’t that the rumor from Joe last night, but it also included Stanton… which is odd because the fish balked at a deal for Doc that had that package
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
A good closer is important, but lets be real here, these two were the headliners in the Miguel Cabrera deal, id say Cabrera has a little more value than Bell.
bravesguy95 - July 31, 2009
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
id say thats pretty good on their part then, however Bard definitely wasnt going anywhere unless it was for AdGonz
bravesguy95 - July 31, 2009
I will be shocked if that is true
but good for them if it is.
Andy Braves Fan - July 31, 2009
I’m pissed- my vacation just got cut short a week
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
Jonathan Mayo says Nick Hagadone is big part of package for vic.
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
I would guess that if buckholz is out
that Bowden is in it.
Andy Braves Fan - July 31, 2009
If that's it it's a steal
VivaLosBravos - July 31, 2009
I hate it when all the writers disagree about which prospects are in deals
esadb - July 31, 2009
I am getting my updates from the indians SB open thread…this was a funny comment I just read there:
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
Over the Monster is dead
lame
VivaLosBravos - July 31, 2009
They're still hungover from the Ortiz news
Yakker - July 31, 2009
that’s because it would require people who actually know anything about baseball to be redsox fans.
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
I’m going up to Sox Nation a week from Sunday…..
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
Lucky you
Yakker - July 31, 2009
i was supposed to go this sunday but the house we were gonna rent double booked so they took our 2 week vacation and cut out a week… its REALLY annoying
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
That blows.
At least it will be nice and quiet up there. Any time some moron mentions “Da Sawx,” just say “Yeah, that Ortiz news was heartbreaking, wasn’t it? Wonder what they’re going to do about the 04 and 07 titles….”
<chirp, chirp>
Yakker - July 31, 2009
YES!!!
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
For bonus points, you can also throw in:
“Yeah, kinda weird no Red Sox made it into the Mitchell Report. Makes you wonder which other guys might be on that 2003 list…”
Yakker - July 31, 2009
I really want to see that list
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
You will
One mega-star at a time. It’s so painful, it’s awesome.
Yakker - July 31, 2009
Its just retarded, oh wow X did roids. OKAY FINE, Just lemme see the whole list so I can find who I care about and everyone else can go screw themselves with their non existent package
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
it also would require some sort of working knowledge of players on the team that are considered “prospects”
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
No, they’re just trying to figure out how to throw him under the bus like Manny, but the wrinkle is he’s still w/ the team.
Never laughed harder than when talking to RS fans after Manny got dinged the 1st time. Complete and utter denial. Awesome.
Yakker - July 31, 2009
+1000
Cracker! - July 31, 2009
well
that was quite a blow for them I’m sure…
Andy Braves Fan - July 31, 2009
Masterson is part of the deal per Jonathan Mayo
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
Masterson, Hagadone, and ??
Yakker - July 31, 2009
dunno yet but Cleveland just got ripped off
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
Is the MLB website....
dead or something? I haven’t been able to get it all day.
sddbaker - July 31, 2009
its working for me…
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
and
also per MayoGoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
i already covered that one…lol
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
whoops…. HAHAHA
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
I would have to guess LaRoche would be part of that deal, yes?
I mean, if V-Mart is in town, where does LaRoche fit in?
Andy Braves Fan - July 31, 2009
Some anonymous Internet blogger heard LaRoche to Mets?
Yakker - July 31, 2009
got a link?
Andy Braves Fan - July 31, 2009
Nah
Just some dude on Lets Go Tribe
Yakker - July 31, 2009
LOL at them
bravesguy95 - July 31, 2009
initial rumors had him going to a third team…per espn.com
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
us.
I kinda wish
esadb - July 31, 2009
Braves for Norton.
Tim Goad - July 31, 2009
NORTON FOR MVP!!!
(green this shit)
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
only if you ask nicely and tell us how hard you worked on typing it.
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
please…
look at the wittle face… I spent a whole 10 seconds of my life on that
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
I worked really hard and my fingers are sore.
Please rec this and green it too.
Tim Goad - July 31, 2009
heck, why not
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
GUYS- FRENCHY HAS A HIGHER OPS THAN NORTON
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
Gut reaction
Somebody ate a rancid hoagie
Yakker - July 31, 2009
lol…exactly.
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
Nice haul
depending on the other pieces. I mean, that alone does not equal v-mart IMO…
Andy Braves Fan - July 31, 2009
Agree
Masterson overvalued it appears.
Cracker! - July 31, 2009
Yeah
not that great. I mean, how can the Tribe not try to get a Bowden or Lars Anderson in there somewhere?
Andy Braves Fan - July 31, 2009
The indians are gonna be real good if these prospects all pan out
bravesguy95 - July 31, 2009
and really bad if they don’t.
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
Its not like they were in contention this year anyways.
Tim Goad - July 31, 2009
Now they probably wont be for the next few years…
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
Damn Sasquatch.
Tim Goad - July 31, 2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tXEEZE0rqM
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
Mayo says deal is NOT done
esadb - July 31, 2009
yeah
looks like the final pieces are still being negotiated, but the framework and major pieces are set.
Andy Braves Fan - July 31, 2009
This is the point where Shap hopefully grabs Theo’s nutsack and twists…
Yakker - July 31, 2009
for the Tribe’s sake, i hope not!
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
Really, trading both Lee and V-Mart and not getting a single 5-star guy is totally unacceptable.
Yakker - July 31, 2009
or even any MLB-ready talent.
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8of00uEVRRA
Tim Goad - July 31, 2009
HAHAHAHAHA
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
Cleveland better get someone good
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
Does everyone rosterbate with their.....
left of right hand?
Dandrews - July 31, 2009
switch hitter
bravesguy95 - July 31, 2009
back when I rosterbated, I used both hands.
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
left of right?
So, youre asking if we use our left hand in the most round about way possible?
Tim Goad - July 31, 2009
I hear there is a guy on TC that.....
can rosterbate without using either of his hands. He is a god among men.
Dandrews - July 31, 2009
I believe he is Tommy Hanson
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
Think you mean Tommy Nohanson
Yakker - July 31, 2009
…..
ouch.
!Vive la Francoeur! - July 31, 2009
HAHA
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
wow
gondeee - July 31, 2009
oh shit?
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
Manny and A-Gonz in the same lineup
terrifying…
Andy Braves Fan - July 31, 2009
Last thing we need to face with this upcoming series.
NCChopper - July 31, 2009
THIS
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
How far behind am I that…
I just heard them say on MLBTV that Dodgers could be trying to get Adrian Gonzalez perhaps including Bell.
NCChopper - July 31, 2009
about 5 min. You hear that Indians are about to get ripped off?
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
lets not get carried away, the final deal isn't done yet...
Andy Braves Fan - July 31, 2009
Not far at all
that just got reported.
Andy Braves Fan - July 31, 2009
Looks like we were typing same time GoBravesNy.
Ignore my Bell reference, what I get for typing and listening same time.
NCChopper - July 31, 2009
OMFG
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
Interest
doesn’t mean anything happened.
Andy Braves Fan - July 31, 2009
no, that’s about the funniest thing I’ve heard all day. US taking LaRoche?!?! HAHAHA
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
HAHAHAHAHA
From the Tribe SB:
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
haha
was taht a red sox fan? They are so silly stupid.
Andy Braves Fan - July 31, 2009
no…it was a Tribe fan.
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
awww
they are still wishing for a 5 star that they didn’t get… so sad…
Andy Braves Fan - July 31, 2009
The ONLY
player the Indians have that we would probably even think of including Hanson in a deal for would be Sizemore.
And I dont think either are on the block.
Tim Goad - July 31, 2009
IF we were to give up Hanson, I’d want Sizemore and Hafner to start. then start talking
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
Yikes! They can keep Hafner…have you seen his contract??
Yakker - July 31, 2009
Have you seen his position.
He’s a DH, thats basically saying anyone can play better Defense than you.
Tim Goad - July 31, 2009
Oh yeah
That too.
Yakker - July 31, 2009
HAHAHA
FreeBarryBonds - July 31, 2009
what the hell would we do with LaRoche
FreeBarryBonds - July 31, 2009
Trade him?
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
Trade Kotchman for a LRP and put him at first.
Tim Goad - July 31, 2009
Trade Kotchman for a BP arm and use Laroche at 1st…
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
not so bad an idea actually.
Andy Braves Fan - July 31, 2009
same thing I said, after me...haha
Tim Goad - July 31, 2009
NO i like Kotch’s D
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
Better bench bat than Norton
gondeee - July 31, 2009
+1
VivaLosBravos - July 31, 2009
are you hearing anything interesting?
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
I'm a better bench bat than norton
Andy Braves Fan - July 31, 2009
The only thing Norton can catch is old.
is it time to go home yet?
Sparhawk - July 31, 2009
I agree.
NCChopper - July 31, 2009
true, but don’t we have at least 5 GOOD bench guys in AAA
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
true but what would we likely have to give up?
FreeBarryBonds - July 31, 2009
V- Mart deal official
according to MLBTR
Andy Braves Fan - July 31, 2009
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
whats the details of trade
Wanna Hate 14 Straight - July 31, 2009
I love it and then trade Laroche or Kotchman for a RF
Wanna Hate 14 Straight - July 31, 2009
MLBTV just reported Braves are “interested” in LaRoche.
NCChopper - July 31, 2009
he would be the "big bat" we could use...
Andy Braves Fan - July 31, 2009
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
who would the Sox want?
I got it!!!
Bay, Laroche and Buchholz for Schafer, Medlen and Johnson and Freeman.
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
Justin
Rosterbating in front of everyone? For shame!
Andy Braves Fan - July 31, 2009
I don't know
it kinda gets me in the mood
VivaLosBravos - July 31, 2009
HAHAHAHAHA
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
it’s not what you think!
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
Well
when you get hairy palms and go blind, you will only have 1 person to blame…
Andy Braves Fan - July 31, 2009
this… no actually make it a buyable package. No freeman, he’s crap anyway. give them Schafer, Medlen, KJ, and NOrton
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
Or, we could go after the Rays.
Carl Crawford, BJ Upton, Evan Longoria, and JP Howell
for
Brandon Jones, Freddie Freeman, Jordan Schafer, and Kris Medlen.
Tim Goad - July 31, 2009
don't forget Kazmir
I hear he’s on the market.
VivaLosBravos - July 31, 2009
Yea, and Matt Garza too.
Scott Kazmir and Matt Garza
for
Rohrbrough and Buddy Carlyle.
Tim Goad - July 31, 2009
Do it, FW
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
I dont know if i can bear
to watch adam LaRoches’ long ass swing and high strikeout rates again
bravesguy95 - July 31, 2009
Trade
Norton to the Royals for Tony Pena Jr. and a PS3 with the future consideration of Modern Warfare 2.
Tim Goad - July 31, 2009
dude
i dont wanna even talk about PS3. My PS3 just died on me. It will play PS2 games but not PS3 or any Blu Ray movies.
What kinda crap is that.
drumzalicious - July 31, 2009
I dunno
But non of my gaming consoles have ever broken. My friends’ always crap out while mine runs til I sell it to get a new one.
Tim Goad - July 31, 2009
All of the PS consoles
had that problem in early iterations…
Andy Braves Fan - July 31, 2009
crap
yea its a 60 gig.
drumzalicious - July 31, 2009
We'd better not give up shit, though.
VivaLosBravos - July 31, 2009
Hmm
How about Laroche and Saito to the Braves for some lower prospects.
drumzalicious - July 31, 2009
Victor Martinez bobble head night
tomorrow in cleveland
Cracker! - July 31, 2009
Awkward….
Sparhawk - July 31, 2009
That is awesome
VivaLosBravos - July 31, 2009
They could just tape a picture of Travis Hafner on each one.
Tim Goad - July 31, 2009
I could see us giving up a pitching prospect and having Boston paying most of LaRoche’s remaining salary.
FreeBarryBonds - July 31, 2009
Sure, we can see that…but can Boston?
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
who?
Valdez lol
drumzalicious - July 31, 2009
What the F are we going to do with Kotchman and Laroche on our team....
Plus the fact they are both left-handed. Also, the trade deadline ends in 1 hour. Frank Wren better have some Aderol ready if he thinks he can pull a trade in 1 hour.
Dandrews - July 31, 2009
Just about every 1B is lefty
VivaLosBravos - July 31, 2009
The Great and Almighty Pujols isnt.
Tim Goad - July 31, 2009
Who’s that? Probably rides the bench.
Sparhawk - July 31, 2009
Yeah
but he is the great and mighty pujols. He could knock home runs without arms…
Andy Braves Fan - July 31, 2009
Just use his
forehead.
Tim Goad - July 31, 2009
or his baby arm.
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
I am willing to be that he hasn’t waited until the last hour to inquire about people…
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
FW is probably watching the Wizard of Oz. He is the wizard after all. He’s been straight dealing…I think I’m fine with no more moves.
Sparhawk - July 31, 2009
Is LaRoche a FA after this season?
I’d rather have Gonzo. Sigh.
coldriver10 - July 31, 2009
WAIT!!!
What about that 3 team deal we heard about?
Would the Sox trade us Laroche for Kotchman just to ship him to San Diego for A-Gonz?
drumzalicious - July 31, 2009
No
the point in the Sox trading LaRoche is that they don’t need another 1B…it wouldnt make sense to trade him for yet another one.
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
you missed it
They send Kotchman to San Diego.
V-Mart is a catcher too ya know
drumzalicious - July 31, 2009
not for too much longer, he isn’t.
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
I seriously doubt
that if the Red Sox could acquire A-Gonz they would put Varitek on the bench
drumzalicious - July 31, 2009
wait.
I meant to say that they would be putting Varitek on the bench and V-Mart as the catcher.
drumzalicious - July 31, 2009
Braves interested in Adam LaRoche?
http://twitter.com/SI_JonHeyman/status/3056023193
secondbsmn - July 31, 2009
Damm…we are interested in LaRoche?
I wish someone else would have posted this earlier so we could have been talking about it already!
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
LaRoche
Sorry, just saw it myself on MLB Trade Rumors. Wonder who we gave up…
secondbsmn - July 31, 2009
lol
no worries! I hope it wasn’t anyone worth much!
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
Oh dear gawd no. I’d rather have Kotchman. Kotch plays great D and gets on base.
Sparhawk - July 31, 2009
I don't understand our interest in him
Ol’ Kotch is growing on me
Cracker! - July 31, 2009
I figure if we really want someone who can strike out a lot, we’d just reactivate Schafer.
Sparhawk - July 31, 2009
I think we want LaRoche for his magic on the basepaths.
Tim Goad - July 31, 2009
SINCE WHEN DOES VERDUCCI WORK FOR MLB NETWORK?
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
An inside source told me Hanson has been pulled from his start and James Parr will come up to start instead.
10-4 - July 31, 2009
just kidding.
10-4 - July 31, 2009
GTFO
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
No need to tell us that.
Tim Goad - July 31, 2009
Asshole
that was fucked up.
Andy Braves Fan - July 31, 2009
figured
VivaLosBravos - July 31, 2009
Seriously
you almost made me shit myself.
Andy Braves Fan - July 31, 2009
Dammit, I almost swallowed my gum reading that.
Shame on you. LOL
NCChopper - July 31, 2009
I like the fact you have inside sources
Dandrews - July 31, 2009
me and the usher in 406 are tight.
10-4 - July 31, 2009
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
WOAH
WE JUST GOT LAROCHE!!
drumzalicious - July 31, 2009
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Big-League-Stew-live-blog-The-2009-MLB-trading-?urn=mlb,180076
drumzalicious - July 31, 2009
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Big-League-Stew-live-blog-The-2009-MLB-trading-?urn=mlb,180076
drumzalicious - July 31, 2009
what?!?!
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
its on MLBTR
drumzalicious - July 31, 2009
link
VivaLosBravos - July 31, 2009
HUH???
Source?
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Big-League-Stew-live-blog-The-2009-MLB-trading-?urn=mlb,180076
drumzalicious - July 31, 2009
damn
FreeBarryBonds - July 31, 2009
Just released
2:16pm: LaRoche has been traded to the Braves, according to Yahoo’s Gordon Edes.
Dandrews - July 31, 2009
NOOOO!!!!!
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
Whooooooooooooooo?
VivaLosBravos - July 31, 2009
MLB Trade Rumors confirms
FreeBarryBonds - July 31, 2009
oh shit we got 40 minutes to trade for a RF or reliever
Wanna Hate 14 Straight - July 31, 2009
I bet the deal is already in place…
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
I'm so confused!
Dandrews - July 31, 2009
Me tooo!
grantparkbrave - July 31, 2009
me three
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
who is this adam laroche you speak of?
are u guys serious?
or is it a joke?
Titansfan9 - July 31, 2009
But i love Kotchman.
10-4 - July 31, 2009
I do too, is it possible we could keep both?
Can he PH?
NCChopper - July 31, 2009
Or play RF?
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
wait, who the hell is Gordon Edes. I don't believe it
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
a very sick man
VivaLosBravos - July 31, 2009
serious as a heart attack
FreeBarryBonds - July 31, 2009
yaks got Jerry Hairston Jr
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
get a RF get a RF get a RF
Wanna Hate 14 Straight - July 31, 2009
hmm
Only thing that sucks is Kotch had been on fire lately
drumzalicious - July 31, 2009
he has to start.
Laroche to bench
VivaLosBravos - July 31, 2009
no way
Wanna Hate 14 Straight - July 31, 2009
Yes way. Why not?
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
because hes better than Kotchman one of them is getting traded
Wanna Hate 14 Straight - July 31, 2009
What are their WARs this year?
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
hmm
wonder if we traded him. If so who plays 1B in 2010. Are they banking on Freeman?
drumzalicious - July 31, 2009
For Who
How, what , how what. I am so confuzzled.
Andy Braves Fan - July 31, 2009
Joe Biemel to the Rockies
FreeBarryBonds - July 31, 2009
dag
drumzalicious - July 31, 2009
Rockiess got Joe Beimel
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
oh well
i loved laroche as a brave…he did hit 32 hrs one year
Titansfan9 - July 31, 2009
and he has that show with Chipper and is friends with him
Wanna Hate 14 Straight - July 31, 2009
Damn!
This deadline just exploded after a boring daY!
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
THIS
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
Someone give Wren a bump of.........
Aderol. or something stronger. He has 40 minutes left!
Dandrews - July 31, 2009
Any word on who we gave up?
grantparkbrave - July 31, 2009
NONONONONONONONO I HATE JOHN HEYMAN
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
This is so fucked up
Yakker - July 31, 2009
I actually want to cry right now
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
That’s bullshit.
We all know this
VivaLosBravos - July 31, 2009
That doesn’t make sense to me.. Why would Boston want to take another 1B if they’re trying to drop a surplus of them? It’s gotta be a minor league package
grantparkbrave - July 31, 2009
no
they could ship him to San Diego
drumzalicious - July 31, 2009
If Klutchman leaves us i will die
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
I doubt we traded Kotchman for Laroche
FreeBarryBonds - July 31, 2009
quick
trade for willingham
Titansfan9 - July 31, 2009
Are we flipping Laroche? Thats the only way this makes sense
Yakker - July 31, 2009
Theres no way we install Laroche over Klutchman... right?
He is just about the only guy on the team with a + UZR, and he has been really hot since June. There has to be more too this. Laroche to bench at minimum.
God, I never enjoyed watching Laroche play.
Sid Bream's Moustache - July 31, 2009
I sure as hell hope not
Why does everyone assume he starts?
He’s Adam LaRoche!
VivaLosBravos - July 31, 2009
Kotchman will prolly go for a reliever
FreeBarryBonds - July 31, 2009
Apparently...
According to NESN, we traded Kotch for LaRoche.
I don’t buy it just yet.
coldriver10 - July 31, 2009
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
me neither
Wanna Hate 14 Straight - July 31, 2009
But that makes no sense either
Point is the Bosox have too many Corner infielders…
Andy Braves Fan - July 31, 2009
good point
VivaLosBravos - July 31, 2009
Me either…that would be rather dumb, IMO
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
nononononononononononononononononononono
VivaLosBravos - July 31, 2009
i wasn’t expecting to start drinking this early in the day
grantparkbrave - July 31, 2009
If this is true I hate FW again
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
I have never hated him…but if he does this, I will be scratching my head for the first time at a move he has made…
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
hate was to strong a word, that was just my first reaction. but i will be pissed
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
This
Yakker - July 31, 2009
Yankees Acquire Jerry Hairston Jr.
drumzalicious - July 31, 2009
He's still playing?
Yakker - July 31, 2009
Pirates send Sean Smith RHP to Blue Jays
NCChopper - July 31, 2009
Is this the same
Kotchman who has 6 HRs this year
You Braves fans have been complaining about power…
In the power department LaRoche is waaay better
Get a grip
What’s next – are half of y’all gonna cry if we land Pujols
Titansfan9 - July 31, 2009
Comparing Adam LaRoche to Albert Pujols
is one of the dumbest moves I have seen today.
VivaLosBravos - July 31, 2009
IDK…the VMart trade is pretty high up there!
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
its not a comparison
im just puzzled why we are cheering a guy with no power (Kotchman)
Titansfan9 - July 31, 2009
because he is one of our best contact hitters who strikes out very seldomly, walks a ton, gets on base a lot and has ++ defense.
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
this
power isn’t everything and that’s the only thing laroche has on kotch
Cracker! - July 31, 2009
GTFO…none of the intelligent ones have been complaining about Kotch.
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
Im willing to bet
that Kotchman is getting flipped.
drumzalicious - July 31, 2009
price is going to cleveland in VMart deal
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
David?
Yakker - July 31, 2009
It can’t be for kotchman. the red sox only gave up two mediocre minor leaguers to get LaRoche from the Bucs
FreeBarryBonds - July 31, 2009
mediocre at best
If Epstein turns them into Kotchman he’s on steroids.
VivaLosBravos - July 31, 2009
Last Half Hour of the 2009 MLB Trade Deadline
Brought to you by eBay.
grantparkbrave - July 31, 2009
Kotchman sucks....
get over it. LaRoche is a 2nd half OPS machine too. I need more details though! AHH
Dandrews - July 31, 2009
GTFO
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
Laroche is better than Kotchman just like Francouer is to Church
Wanna Hate 14 Straight - July 31, 2009
lolled.
Gage23 - July 31, 2009
I ignored…
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
you sir, are an idiot
bravesguy311 - July 31, 2009
One of the worst batters in the leauge for a 1B.
His bat should play at 2nd base. Maybe catcher.
Dandrews - July 31, 2009
he has a similar OPS to Laroche…so, what is you point?
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
We are betting on a huge 2nd half from LaRoche....
which is what he does every year. I still don’t like the trade though.
Dandrews - July 31, 2009
Comparisom
2009 OPS:
Laroche – .772
Kotchman – .764
UZR:
Laroche : -3.4
Kotchman : +3.2
Factor in the fact that since June Kotchman has been hitting far better then his .764 OPS, you have to think there is more too this.
Sid Bream's Moustache - July 31, 2009
THIS
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
There has to be something more
All we’re basically doing is trading some Average for Power…We have to be getting something out of it. I defn don’t see us needing to help out the Indians or Red Sox, so maybe we are getting a reliever thrown in there as well…
michaelcooksey - July 31, 2009
+1
Cracker! - July 31, 2009
In his last 26 Games
Kotchman has a .845 OPS
Sid Bream's Moustache - July 31, 2009
Marlins trying to get Nick Johnson per MLBTV
NCChopper - July 31, 2009
exactly and we would be trading Kotchman while he has a high value
Wanna Hate 14 Straight - July 31, 2009
High value= more than LaRoche
VivaLosBravos - July 31, 2009
NESN
Confirmed it. Kotchman for LaRoche.
drumzalicious - July 31, 2009
Fuck!
Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck!v Fuck
VivaLosBravos - July 31, 2009
NON ON ONONO
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
I just don't get it.
Andy Braves Fan - July 31, 2009
I would sure like to think FW knows something I don't
But I do NOT get this deal
Sid Bream's Moustache - July 31, 2009
WTF!
Are you sure? MLBTR has nothing on that.
Scott Coleman - July 31, 2009
its in the corner
there is a NESN thingie with all the trades
drumzalicious - July 31, 2009
Has to be some sort of flipping going on.
Unless the Braves are banking on Freeman in 2010
drumzalicious - July 31, 2009
No way we can count on Freddie out of ST in 2010
I dont understand
Sid Bream's Moustache - July 31, 2009
+100
We get the power we needed
I missed LaRoche’s grand slams…
Titansfan9 - July 31, 2009
GTFO
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
Why God, why???
Yakker - July 31, 2009
WHY?
Does anyone have a single fucking clue WHY this would happen?
VivaLosBravos - July 31, 2009
No
I mean, I don’t hate hate the trade (may change later), but I just don’t get it…
Andy Braves Fan - July 31, 2009
exactly
just no reason to make this move
VivaLosBravos - July 31, 2009
Trade
They are both great defenders. Kotch hits for better average and Adam goes for the long ball. Adam is a free agent after the season and Kotch is arbitration eligible. Only thing I can think of is that IF LaRoche leaves after this year when his contract is up, he might be a type B Free Agent and we would get a pick in the supplemental draft.
secondbsmn - July 31, 2009
Not a fucking Clue
LaRoche makes more money too and I’m not sure what his option is for next year, but, I know that Kotchman’s deal for next year would be cheaper too…WTF
michaelcooksey - July 31, 2009
Bad Deal....
I think LaRoche is better, but he is a free agent after this year and Kotchman is under control for awhile.
Dandrews - July 31, 2009
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
Jesus Christ
We just essentially traded all our prospects in the texas deal for for:
1 year of Tex
1 Year of Kotch
1/2 a year of Laroche
SHIT.
Scott Coleman - July 31, 2009
THIS
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
haha
this
VivaLosBravos - July 31, 2009
For the record
I like LaRoche, but this deal just makes no sense for so many reasons. I understans why the Braves like LaRoche (power, the Braves have none), but the rest of it makes no sense.
Andy Braves Fan - July 31, 2009
hmm
i keep wondering if either we are getting more in return (Saito would be nice)
Or we are bumping Freeman up to AAA and the AFL to start next year
drumzalicious - July 31, 2009
Saito included would be nice
or any other solid reliever
Andy Braves Fan - July 31, 2009
there has to more to this deal...
please, oh god, let there be more to this deal.
homerun - July 31, 2009
Dear Mr. Frederick Freeman
You MUST be ready to play by April of 2010
Sincerely,
Frank Wren.
VivaLosBravos - July 31, 2009
Dear Mr Jason Heyward
Learn to play 1st
blitzerlover - July 31, 2009
Do they plan on Freeman playing first next year????
michaelcooksey - July 31, 2009
apparently!
Titansfan9 - July 31, 2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZMwKPmsbWE
Tim Goad - July 31, 2009
+infinity
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
IF this is true, where does LaFAIL bat?
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
7th?
not ahead of Yunel for sure
VivaLosBravos - July 31, 2009
Heyward in RF and Freeman at 1B next year...
secondbsmn - July 31, 2009
+100
Titansfan9 - July 31, 2009
Is it okay
if i choose not to believe this until the dust settles and something “official” is posted… atleast from an atlanta source
grantparkbrave - July 31, 2009
This
award6 - July 31, 2009
I want Kotchman back…
Gage23 - July 31, 2009
This is unfair pressure for Freddie
He is a stud and definately our future at 1B, but we can’t count on him being ready out of ST next year.
He isn’t a freak like Heyward, I want him to have a little seasoning
Sid Bream's Moustache - July 31, 2009
so true
And he’s 19!
VivaLosBravos - July 31, 2009
MLBTV guy says he “thinks” it means Kochman out – but he didn’t say it as fact.
NCChopper - July 31, 2009
if he's wrong
me=on cloud nine
VivaLosBravos - July 31, 2009
true
I would like to keep Kotchman as a late defensive replacement
he’s a better PH than Greg
-—- I forgot his last name…Titansfan9 - July 31, 2009
Its Greg DFA.
Scott Coleman - July 31, 2009
i believe its FAIL
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
NESN Article
http://www.nesn.com/2009/07/red-sox-adam-laroche-traded-to-braves-for-casey-kotchman.html?mtr
drumzalicious - July 31, 2009
The whole point
was to dump a first baseman…right?
VivaLosBravos - July 31, 2009
NONONONONO
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
we have to be getting an arm
drumzalicious - July 31, 2009
I tend to think there is something more to come
Minor or not
Sid Bream's Moustache - July 31, 2009
if it was smoltz i would die lol
Titansfan9 - July 31, 2009
So would he
VivaLosBravos - July 31, 2009
If this was Laroche/Smoltz for Klutchman
That would be awesome, I dont care
Sid Bream's Moustache - July 31, 2009
For the BP?
I wouldn’t be too upset about that.
NCChopper - July 31, 2009
I don’t even know how this deal makes sense. A pending free agent, making more money than Kotch, with a fairly comparable bat, traded straight up for Kotch, who’s under control for much longer?
The monetary aspect of this deal makes zero sense. I can’t see FW making this move, knowing the financial situation of the Braves.
Bronn - July 31, 2009
Maybe they he won some kind of bet
And Chipper got to be honorary GM for the daY?
Sid Bream's Moustache - July 31, 2009
The move would indicate
That he’s a little more than honorary
VivaLosBravos - July 31, 2009
Also, really makes no sense for Kotchman to go to the Red Sox, who just added V-Mart to their large number of corner infielders.
Bronn - July 31, 2009
DOB Blog:
David O’Brien
July 31st, 2009
3:34 pm
LaRoche wouldn’t be as a backup, the rumor that made no sense given his pinch-hitting and left-handedness. They’re getting him as a starter if they get him, and it looks like they are. Kotchman would be dealt away.
grantparkbrave - July 31, 2009
Fuck.
Yakker - July 31, 2009
Mark Bowman's twitter
If Braves complete deal for LaRoche and it appears they’re very close to doing so, Kotchman won’t necessarily be included in three-way trade
jjb5574 - July 31, 2009
a ray of hope
VivaLosBravos - July 31, 2009
Or does that mean we’re giving up Klutch and not getting anything else in return?
Gage23 - July 31, 2009
Maybe Kotchman will be dealth for pieces and we’re getting one of those pieces?
michaelcooksey - July 31, 2009
I won’t believe it until someone else besides NESN says Klutchman is gone
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
Hmm could there be more to the deal
Kotchman and Gonzo for LaRoche and Saito.
I wouldnt mind that
drumzalicious - July 31, 2009
I'd take it
pending Saito’s contract
VivaLosBravos - July 31, 2009
wait, is Saito the old japaneese closer who came from the Dodgers?
Scott Coleman - July 31, 2009
yeah, he's 39 I believe
Cracker! - July 31, 2009
he’s been more reliable than Gonzo IMO
drumzalicious - July 31, 2009
I'd rather have prospects than a 39 yo reliever
the compensatory picks that is
Cracker! - July 31, 2009
Saito
has an option for 2010 that is for whatever he makes this year.
not expensive either
drumzalicious - July 31, 2009
Me either. That would be a good trade for both sides I think.
secondbsmn - July 31, 2009
i saw it on espn, and mlbtraderumors.com
bravesrgonnawinitall - July 31, 2009
kotchman for laroche
bravesrgonnawinitall - July 31, 2009
One thing to remember...
FW has been pretty frickin slick last season and a half.
He has earned a benefit of a doubt… lets see how it pans out
Sid Bream's Moustache - July 31, 2009
Having Laroche and Kotchman makes no sense
no benefit given if that ends up being the scenario
Cracker! - July 31, 2009
Fuck. Even gondee is saying so. check the homepage
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
No
I won’t do it.
VivaLosBravos - July 31, 2009
denial
Gage23 - July 31, 2009
I did it.
VivaLosBravos - July 31, 2009
proud of you
Gage23 - July 31, 2009
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
WTF
If this deal is true, FW just added to his list of awful deals involving first basemen. THIS IS A SHIT TRADE
bravesguy95 - July 31, 2009
At the end of the day
It’s an upgrade offensively
and a downgrade defensively
Titansfan9 - July 31, 2009
Some good news
Marlins aren’t getting Nick Johnson.
Thank god, he is a beast
Sid Bream's Moustache - July 31, 2009
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
There has to be more to it
The Red Sox still have a glutten of corner infielders with this trade. They ahve to be dealing with somebody else who wanted Kotchman instead meaning that somethign else will have to come our way for us to help them out so much.
michaelcooksey - July 31, 2009
Scott Rolen is a red
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
Whoa!
Nice move outta Cincy
Yakker - July 31, 2009
KRos says it COULD be Klutchman
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
award6 - July 31, 2009
that would be dumb
drumzalicious - July 31, 2009
ahh thank god
this post made me step off the ledge
bravesguy95 - July 31, 2009
Trade no longer on NESN
Did they jump the gun?
Yakker - July 31, 2009
Premature rosterbation – how embarrasing.
(that’s what she said) LOL
NCChopper - July 31, 2009
THANK GOD
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
Well
if this trade goes down and nothing else comes, Frank Wren has officially lost a trade in the Tex/5 prospect deal in 2007.
Scott Coleman - July 31, 2009
i dont think there was anyway to win that trade
drumzalicious - July 31, 2009
What exactly did Cleveland get for V-Mart?
Bronn - July 31, 2009
3 nice arms. Masterson is going to be good.
Scott Coleman - July 31, 2009
Masterson, Price, Hagadone
the latter being the main piece IMO
VivaLosBravos - July 31, 2009
all pitchers
VivaLosBravos - July 31, 2009
Everyone move to the new Thread.
Dandrews - July 31, 2009
Yay for a little drama at the deadline
A little climax for a month of rosterbators
Sid Bream's Moustache - July 31, 2009
Wait
Kotchman might not be going
http://twitter.com/matthewpouliot/status/3056627249
drumzalicious - July 31, 2009
...
cool?
VivaLosBravos - July 31, 2009
nm
DOB saying Kotch would go to cleveland
drumzalicious - July 31, 2009
This makes sense now
VivaLosBravos - July 31, 2009
FUCK
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
link?
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
This just got uglly
apparently Kimbrel is included in the deal for LaRoche
drumzalicious - July 31, 2009
link?
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
It's in the DOB Blog
lemme find it
drumzalicious - July 31, 2009
whoaaaaaaaaah there horsie
If that is true, we aren’t just getting Laroche.
Sid Bream's Moustache - July 31, 2009
Absolutely Factual
or FW is the anitchrist
VivaLosBravos - July 31, 2009
WOAH WAIT A MINUTE
XM radio reporting–Votto to Braves for LaRoche/Schafer! Great deal Wren!
drumzalicious - July 31, 2009
looking for link
drumzalicious - July 31, 2009
Please
Find it
VivaLosBravos - July 31, 2009
No f'ing way
No way
Sid Bream's Moustache - July 31, 2009
If that true, my employers will not appreciate
The amount of wiling out I am about to do
Sid Bream's Moustache - July 31, 2009
I WOULD LOVE THAT
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
funny
Titansfan9 - July 31, 2009
really? or are you just messing??
bravesfan1047 - July 31, 2009
YES!!!!!!!!!
if true…
VivaLosBravos - July 31, 2009
NO F'ING WAY!
secondbsmn - July 31, 2009
Why would reds move Votto?
That kid is a golden cow
Sid Bream's Moustache - July 31, 2009
Someone Posted it in DOB Blog
Said XM Radio. IM waiting on the FACTS!!!
drumzalicious - July 31, 2009
just wantede you guys to know
what was being said around the internet
drumzalicious - July 31, 2009
just get some kinda link, please!
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
some deuche
is saying we flipped Vaz and Votto to Texas for Cruz and Feliz.
So i think we can throw this rumor out.
sorry fellas
drumzalicious - July 31, 2009
FUCK
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
Pleaaaaaaase
VivaLosBravos - July 31, 2009
I love FW
please be Votto
VivaLosBravos - July 31, 2009
wait, then where does Heyward go?
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
I’ll believe thatt when I see it on atlantabraves.com (Furcal/Griffey)
michaelcooksey - July 31, 2009
yeah
no way this is real
jjb5574 - July 31, 2009
Let's not get too turned on about Votto yet...
Good tip Drumz, but that would be too hot of a deal for me to get excited and then have it evaporate. I am going to be a pessimist till I hear official
Sid Bream's Moustache - July 31, 2009
The deadline is 4 ET, right?
How long will it take for the dust to settle?
grantparkbrave - July 31, 2009
hopefully soon
secondbsmn - July 31, 2009
10 min
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
Impossible to keep up with 2 threads right now with the fury…
Suggest going to main page thread?
NCChopper - July 31, 2009
WAIT I STILL HATE JON HEYMAN
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
mlb tv
just said braves get laroach for kotchman
jjb5574 - July 31, 2009
I saw it on ESPN News
Gage23 - July 31, 2009
Klutchman for Laroche looks official
Now all that is left is to see if Laroche gets flipped or not.
Sid Bream's Moustache - July 31, 2009
Sayonara Klutchman
I was just getting to like you too.
Sid Bream's Moustache - July 31, 2009
CBS Sports
Confirming its Kotchman for LaRoche.
so much for flipping and adding.
I have a sour taste in my mouth about this trade. Shall go brush my teeth
drumzalicious - July 31, 2009
Not done yet. 7 minutes, plus the aftermath
Yakker - July 31, 2009
i don’t care how fucking big this is
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
lol
i was really hoping we got an arm in there as well
drumzalicious - July 31, 2009
i liked kotchman, and if he HAD to go i wanted an arm. I REALLY LIKE KOTCHMAN! WHY FW WHY?
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
So who the hell starts at 1b tonight?
Prado is hurt?
Sid Bream's Moustache - July 31, 2009
Norton
Yakker - July 31, 2009
Barbaro called up
Seriously, can we all get on one thread
Yakker - July 31, 2009
FUCK
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
Other thread says Barbaro?
Gage23 - July 31, 2009
Kotchman for Laroche makes 0 sense….there HAS to be more to it than just this…right?
justincredubil02 - July 31, 2009
I was thinking that myself...
michaelcooksey - July 31, 2009
Norton? FML
michaelcooksey - July 31, 2009
ugh
drumzalicious - July 31, 2009
Indeed! Should have kept Conrad up and released Norton.
secondbsmn - July 31, 2009
i dont know about this trade
sepulcher - July 31, 2009
other thread says barbaro called up for the evening
shariyar - July 31, 2009
garbage
drumzalicious - July 31, 2009
STOP. EVERYONE GO TO THE OTHER THREAD!
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
This
Yakker - July 31, 2009
Barbaro coming up again?
Dandrews - July 31, 2009
casey was playing great for us
sepulcher - July 31, 2009
how about timely hitting and NO ERRORS!
GoBravesNY - July 31, 2009
DOB Confirms
Kotch for Roche straight up.
I’m pissed. to the other thread i go
drumzalicious - July 31, 2009
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2009/07/31/awaiting-trades-and-dodgers/comment-page-7/#comment-232720
drumzalicious - July 31, 2009
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