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Open Thread 5/28: Braves @ Diamondbacks

Derek Lowe goes up against Darn Haren tonight in what could turn out to be a battle of staff aces. The Diamondbacks are currently 4th in the very bad NL West but they are 6-4 in their last 10 games and their offense is prone to break out with 9 and 10 runs games (as we learned in a 12-0 lost a couple weeks ago).

As of writing this (@ 1:30), there is no word yet on what Chipper and Escobar will be up to tonight. Chipper's toe has been giving him some discomfor lately and he posted his first career 4 K game yesterday. Escobar's hip is still bothering him though he has been able to take some batting practice in the past few days. Hopefully we will see him tonight.

Something really needs to shake up the offense.




 

 

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LINEUP

Johnson, 2B
Kotchman, 1B
Jones, 3B
McCann, C
Anderson, LF
Nameless Right Fielder
Hernandez, SS
Schafer, CF

lol

i love that. “nameless right fielder”

so FYF has now become NRF.

HWSNBN

He Who Shall Not Be Named

I thought Escobar was in the lineup

Well obviously he isn’t but I thought I read on DOB’s blog that he was

Who believes him anymore smh!!!

Just said on TV that he wanted to be in there tonight, but hip was still hurting during BP.

So much for the diory hernandez leadoff experiment

I’m glad to see Heap after Chipper instead of FUGA

why is his nickname heap?

http://braveslove.blogspot.com/2008/04/more-fun-with-google.html

why call mccann heap?
- A nickname given by his minor-league teammates, we’ve heard it comes from several sources. One, he can sleep anywhere, anytime, two, he’s…not the neatest boy, and three, he eats “heaps” of food.

I heard a third reason for it

heard or spied on him?

listen here what I do on my own time is none of your damn business and I’ll thank you to stay out of my personal affairs.
But yes, there may have been some spying.

mmm hmmm. just sayin’.

How is your brother?

Hey HeyJude, thanks for asking. It was a very long day, but he’s home resting and doing well.
He’ll have a few uncomfortable days, but should heal quickly.

Alarm was 4:15 am this morning, so I’m running on fumes for this late start…hopefully the Braves offense will explode and make it an exciting game and keep me awake.

If you don’t mind me asking, what happened?

He had an unexpected hernia rupture in his groin. They repaired it today and doc said by 4 weeks he should be back to his usual work/activities. His first EVER surgery and visit to the hospital (never broken a bone, had stitches or even major dental work) and he’s 35 – so today was major deal to him LOL.

Wow, I hope everything goes ok with that. It must have been nice not having any surgery until you were 35 though

Yeah, I had to bust him and tell him “Welcome to the Surgery Scars Club” ;-)

Rupture and groin are two words a man never wants to hear in the same sentence. I’m glad he is ok though!

Appreciate that. Let’s just say, he was bitchin’ all day about the “boys” being sore as hell and cussin’ as he put the ice packs on (their proximity is obviously close enough to be affected by the whole ordeal).

What the heck? I’ve got the Gwinnet Braves on TV.

So yeah, I’ve about had it with this team. There’s no way to explain this inconsistency other than our outfield sucks. Wren better make a move before we go from 3 games back to 13 games back.

If Wren were to trade for a bat, who would you guys give up; or better yet, who for you would be “untouchable”

Untouchable: Heap, Lowe, Jurgens

Hanson, Johnson, Freeman, Heyward from the minors. I wouldn’t mind anyone on the major league roster being traded except for Mac, Chip, Kotch, and the rotation.

Johnson being Cody? I’d give him up in a heatbeat

Not in a heartbeat, but yeah I guess I wouldn’t really care if he got traded

gosh guys

use the trading thread for this…i have about had it with all of the tradegasms and rosterbating that I can handle.

Who do we need to trade to get Dunn?

i know where you sleep

i will cut you.

just kidding

i would love some dunn right about now.

uggh esco needs to come back to lead off

Kickass start

Nice hit Klutch!

we should hit and run run

and as i click post theres the double play

Chipper fails again

I’m starting to think perhaps he’s hurting us right now more than helping with his limitation with the dogs.

Maybe a 4 game rest until we return to ATL might be better in the long run.

Oh the old man's feeling it. GET WELL SOON OMAR

no pressure d lowe…only need a complete game shutout

awesome start

Leadoff single, the games over.

well after the stolen base, wild pitch and sac fly..then maybe

hey, they at least know when to try a hit and run

O shit d lowe is leaving the ball up get it down

Im not liking all these hard hits.

I hate how Boog and Joe always make the other team sound horrible, and then they crush us.

Nice snag Diory!

Almost doubled him there that would have caused for sexy time.

very nice!

I had to close it….just not enough words to describe how gag inducing that is.
That would almost make a gal go the other way. Ewww.

Yeah, just told hubby, they’re last in the league in OBP (per Joe/Boog), so they’ll set a team record tonight for runs in a game.

oh what the fuck

only THE atlanta braves

aww his foot was off the rubber you suck

This feed is fucking jitzy as shit

if we get buttfucked by that im gonna be PISSED

Ok, think the ump has his “balk call quota” for the month now?

Yea.

At least its not “balk-a-day”

Love you kelly!

atj with the shovel pass…nice!

lol nice sportssouth showing fyfs one memorable moment 3 1/2 years ago

which was?

his first homerun

oh.

He used to hit homeruns?

yea back before he had schafer hitting behind causing him to not get any pitches to hit

oh thats right! Well we should bat him cleanup then

either there or leadoff…need to get him as many plate appearances as possible

He actually has good numbers in the Clean up Spot kinda wierd

abberation

lol i wonder what would happen if Bobby put him between Chip and Mac. if he starts raking i would be kinda shocked.

No he doesn’t. I posted the link last night, you ignored it

where was he hitting at the beginning of the year?

6th?

im not so sure because GA wasnt playing

I'm guessing

the 3-run hr in his first game

I have a gut feeling Frenchy is on his way out…….

Why does your gut give you this thought

I saw him in an interview before the game and frenchy said he would play for any team in the MLB that wanted him…kinda strange comment.
Plus a ton of rumors… not looking to good for him here in ATL.

HeyJude
OT – but had to tell you I have your “Life, Love Laugh” on a plaque on the wall in my kitchen.

Happy I’m not getting chewed up and spit out about it!
Last night my last one sent someone in a darn rage.
I changed it as not to offend this person again!!

Some people take trivial things waaaay too seriously. I don’t know what you had before, but dang.

It was a really sweet quote……but since I don’t always say sweet things on here……I should not have it as my signature.
My hubby is a cool guy but he was———mad!

Gotta have some “spice” with the “sweet” .. or life would be boring.

well....

I wasn’t in a rage by any means, nor was I offended, and I did apologize for being a little testy, and told you why, but oh well.

The stolen base inning.
Gotta be the safest promotion ever

Is anyone else coming to the weekend of debuachery? So far its me, Beard, Donsel & Hobbs…anyone else?

What is this that you speak of?

Series in Baltimore. A few of us are meeting up there to make complete fools of ourselves.

Awesome.

Baltimore is definitely on my list of places/ballparks to see. I was hoping to be able to sneak down there for that series and then over to Boston for that series since I’m much closer now than when I lived in Atlanta, but that’s not going to happen…

I believe there are more coming.

17483 said he’ll be there

cbwilk and cmdpsu15 too

This is not going to end well.

Hell yea FUGA

Professional hit!

Fuga is starting to heat up maybe the clean up spot was to much pressure for his quite demeanor.

He's not THAT professional

OH GOD

FREDDY PRINZE JR IS ON THE NEXT SEASON OF 24

the worst everyday player ever

That pitch was in the other box . . . .

according to gamecast

it was on the corner

Wonderful. A foot outside

maybe he should have tried to bunt or something

You know I will not blame that strike out on Frenchy for two pitches before that the ump called a bs strike and he had to swing at that one.

he had to?…did you see where that pitch was…or are you on gameday?

No Im not but that was a strike on game day the “called one”

on the positive side he saw more than 1 pitch

only cause you cant K on less than 3

fuckign great. here comes the 3rd K

Whats with Schafer and these half swings

this is rediculous. Mac and Heap on 1st and 2nd with 0 outs and we do nothing

2 on, 0 outs and we......

F A I L – A G A I N

Ypu can't be surprised

Yep! gettting old really fast!

Typical braves inning get on a base and shit an egg there.

What we just shit out there was far uglier than an egg

did boog really just say he buckled down

JESUS I HATE THIS

Fantastic job by the bottom of the order!

i would pitch around mac and even fuga right now and just pitch to everyone else

oh yea, why wouldnt you

Dan Haren just made them his bitches

So um . . . Trade for Ankiel and send Schafer to AAA?

I dont want Ankiel I want Ludwick

How about Ankiel and Willingham ? ? ?

Then you get a logjam

every night i come here wanting to be positive, i really do, and then that happens…over and over

Same here buddy. Frustrating, no?

Do you want to get Frosty with me?

that guy looks like logan

Screw this. I am going to the gas station to pick up some gummi bears. Anyone need anything while I am out?

An outfield that can hit

I could go for a 40 of King Cobra

OH FUCK YES, MAKE THAT 2
i live in the bible belt.

We cant sell 40s. Highest we got is 22s

In PA, you legit have to hunt for 40s

You're kidding

You can get them at virtually any gas station/target/walmart/grocery store in NC. Like a buck fifty for cobra. Me like.

Go pick up Derek lowes wife and bring her to my house

A Zero bar and a Cheerwine. :-)

Siddown, bitch

reynolds vs. logan vs. …batlle for strikeout supremecy

Oh wonderful

nice angle logan….time to bring the infield in

Eric Byrnes. SEriously?

That was a really bad pitch

and a bad route by Logan

joe blaming the grass for schafers bad route

thats the 2nd in the last two games

but his defense is saving us runs!

Thats what they want you to think so you dont look at his hitting numbers

move him to the leadoff spot…he draws walks!

Walk? i forgot about that stat

ooo thats right bc its been 3 weeks since hes had one and his obp is down to under .320

But would he draw as many if the pitcher wasn’t after him?

i was being sarcastic…if you haven’t noticed i’m not his biggest fan…and thats one of the things people say about him that drive me crazy

Great. Thats the ballgame. At least Frenchy wouldve tried to make that throw

He runs like a school girl across the plate… LOL

Old man made a pretty good play there to be gimpy.

That FYF/Diory/Schafer situation in the 2nd inning was the most pathetic shit I’ve seen all year.

Pretty fucking awful. But the Phillies game at the begining of the year is still worse IMO

are you referring to our inconsistent BP?

woah didnt the 1B drop the ball?

I dropped KJ this morning, so that figures

I posted some hotel options on the other thread for you.

I just saw. Many thanks. Went with the Park Hotel, only like 3 blocks from yours.

cool man! i’m looking forward to getting out of california for a while.

Just got back, how’d Arizona get the run?

Byrnes triple on a bad route by Logan, sac fly

Yeah Kelly!

Nice Kelly

Yeah, game over.

Guess what, this team SUCKS. The early success we experienced was anomalous. Kawakami is going to have an awful year, we are going to regret not signing Dunn, Schafer is up in the MLB too early, Francoeur shouldn’t be a starter, our first baseman has NO power (like the rest of our lineup), Gonzo isn’t what he used to be, and Medlen isn’t as special as everyone on here made him out to be.

Just needed to get that out of my system…

dont be a negative nancy

Can’t bash Kotchman. He’s been one of our best

I’d laugh pretty hard if we came back to win tonight

chill dude.

We’re not great, but we arent bad either. and the future is fine

Did you expect Casey to hit 30 bombs this year? You can’t blame him.

Power HR’s arent needed when you hit 2B’s every where. They are a nice thing to see happen but if we could get guys that just made contact we would be good instead of all these swinging K’s

God. Klutch got robbed. our luck

Yay, another break that doesn’t go our way

i guess….but i really feel you make your own breaks…and this team makes so many bad plays and decisions they don’t deserve a lot of breaks

CHIPPER!!! ABOUT DAMN TIME

He just did that a couple of games ago too

stop acting like he is batting .012 instead of over .300.

is he still over .300?

.310 to be exact…even with his 0-5 slump

with 4 HRs

and a OBP of .425 coming into the game tonight and a slg of .472

Chip is fine.

oh

and 7 doubles (8 now) and 1 triple.

Did that just happen?

pinch yourself

Not sure if I should stop drinking, or continue at a more rapid pace.

I guess that depends on the amount on hand.

Plenty

I’d say drink away, but I don’t know if this is worth wasting good booze for.

That’s why I switched from Purple Haze to Miller Lite, haha

He’s mad about that Sombrero

Great job Chip! He ran pretty good too.

That shit was gone at home

Almost got that one outta here.

Now THAT'S how you hit a curveball. Ok, I'm out of my pissy mood

That’s the Chipper we all know and love

Balls. Oh well. Case in point: the top of our order has to do ALL the work

Agreed. After FUGA it’s strikeout central

how sad is it that D-Lo should be batting 6th tonight?

Whats sad is i have more hope in Diory than FYF and Logan

Diory>Logan>Lowe>FYF

lol only bc of his small sample size

I’d have more hope in this team if Heyward was in the lineup right now.

True, but..

you just lamented rushing Schafer, we CANT make that mistake with Heyward

Seems like he is moving better. Toe must not be hurting him tonight

Glavine went five scoreless today?

NO WAY

a 300 game winner who is one of the best left-handed pitchers ever can still pitch?

sorry…that was uncalled for, but I get sick of the Glavine bashers who don’t even let him throw a pitch before they crucify him…

i think he was just asking not down talking him . . . kinda jumped the gun a bit

yeah...

like i said, it was uncalled for…

see below for exhibit A

its a joke dude relax

God, theres not a whole lots thats a bigger turnoff than a woman with massive gums

Look like horses.

Huge turn off.

Did I miss something?

Some girl on Ace of Cakes

With glasses, the one who doesn’t actually work on the cakes.?

Nah, a customer

Whoa

who’s the big nosed gnome with Geoff?

LOL “cleaning guy” was his caption

5 hits in 3 innings and we only have 1 run, insane

Wow, Diory got Skills

strikes again, i like this kid
Dizzy Air, with a nifty play...
When the Braves can't make you happy, this can:

http://www.freshnews.in/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/kim-kardashian-playboy-cover.jpg

This is why Kenshin Kawakami is only my 2nd favorite KK.

M-Braves have 1 hit through 7. Fail

Jeez, is this the same guy who was an error-machine in spring training?

yea he’s kinda crushing right now . . . so much so i dont miss Escobar . . . well a little lol

The better question is. Can he play right field?

I would rather us shed ourselves of GA for Willingham and send Schafer down for Ankiel. Keep FYF

If the line up is bolstered in two spots he wont be as big of a liability. his arm still keeps alot of people in check

and schafer's d doesnt?

Schafer’s range > FYFs arm

Professional fail

Thats a nasty pitch.

Don Sutton: “Jeff’s struggling a bit right now”

here comes joes excuses for fyf

God. Send freaking Schafer and Francoeur down to the minors and bring up Heyward and B. Jones and we’ll be fine. Thank you

Didnt Beltran have a 20+ hr 50+ sb season?

well, that was better than a K

wait, no it wasnt bc it didnt waste any of Haren’s pitches…

FYF’s OBP is .274…that is pathetic.

call me crazy, but I don’t remember him getting on base at least once a game…

hey fyf…did you see a star like upton run into a wall trying to make a play?

Frenchy’s defense has still been good, he won a gold glove. His offense is just terrible

LOL Gold Glove

only the best get them

people like Jeter and Wright

I for one think Frenchy’s range is pretty shitty

as are his routes

Its not his defense

i remember him short arming a ball near the fould line last week that was definitely catchable…plus the fact he plays short right field and misplays balls over his head…and the grand slam he knocked over the wall

In better news, Magic are beating the Cavs end of the 3rd. :D

and the line on them was +300-ish

i took that in a heartbeat!

Oh jesus Kelly

All Thumbs at it again

Braves Baseball

where WTF happens!

What the hell just happened my stream isnt great

Derek lowes face, lol no emotion at all

OH MY GOD THANKS KELLY

More fantastic defense by Schafer

I <3 Sportsouth’s broadcast tonigt…

fuck fuck fuck fuck dont kick me off yondaime4

Lowe is getting killed by his D

Why the hell did FUGA glide over and stop to let Schafer take the ball?

every mistake the braves make is taken advantage of…something the braves don’t do

Lowe gave Kelly a look that would kill!

so . . . yea . . .

What the hell

I am lucky enough to see one frame every 40 seconds on TV…guess it is gameday time.

The score just went final in Arizona, the braves drop 4 straight…

Tack another one on!

i hate this team
back to work now

Yeah um, I’m gonna go on and get out of here now

could REALLY use that cobra now

braves should just play 6 innings like in little league….thats about as long as i’ve been watching lately

These guys are 12.5 back and horrible in OBP – and yet again, what do we see?

We make them look Great!

We may put together a run sometime this year, but I am starting to seriously doubt this team. Some of the problems could be easily fixed, such as getting rid of Frenchy and FUGA. I got an idea, let’s put Kelly in left and platoon Diaz and Swagga in right.

Now were just getting unlucky

They’re hitting balls and good pitches….Lowe is pitching better than the scoreboard.

Dinking them and slap hitting pitches off the plate. We haven’t done that much since Furcal.

I bet the losing teams love to see us come into town!

...... time to change the channel....

ok down three was impossible for tonight…but down four we’re going to need a whole series

Kelly I fucking hate you

d lowe taking matters into his own hands

Our defense

is getting as bad as our offense…..almost!

I really don't want to just piss and moan about this team every night but.....

I know it gets tiresome reading frustration all the time – but can someone give me a reason to remain optimistic about this team and the months to come?

schafer just made contact

lol, it’s funny, but that’s probably the best thing right now

I concur…..

1st pitch swinging? really?

Everytime Haren goes through his delivery I think my stream has frozen lol

joe…the braves won’t take lowe off the hook…i know its their job to be optomists but come on

Damn. Our 1/2 innings aren’t even time enough to take a pee.

If we don’t make a couple of moves soon, this team will be a lost cause.

how did we get in this predicament in the first place?….overvaluing the players we already had? the braves were good for a couple of years if i remember correctly

We don’t necessarily need to make trades, but we need to get rid of Frenchy and Kelly has been bad at 2nd, he should be in LF. We have a pretty good farm system.

so . . .he makes one error tonight and you want to get rid of him at 2B? what about Schafer? Esco’s Errors? Macs Passed balls? come on. a guy makes an error you dont trade him.

Now if your going to talk about us not scoring runs thats a diff story

so . . . Lowe . . . is not gettng unlucky now

I think he is pretty disgusted with his teammates right now.

so i guess we just teleport to get all those balls last inning. yea KJ made an error. aside from that those hits were just falling

You know, i always hate when the Braves go on the West Coast road trip. There’s always the “how late do i stay up?” decision to make. But thank you Braves! I haven’t had to worry about it at all this week.

The Braves are going to go 0fer on this road trip

Then when all hope is lost they will win just enough games to hover around .500 to continue the mediocrity

always happens. i mean whats sad is that every other team on a skid is going down with injuries. Phililes have no starters. Mets are losing core players left and right.

We suck with our full rotation, bullpen, and Lineup. Esco goes out we still suck. Chip goes out we are garbage.

I think even Bobby knows that Frenchy’s days are limited, but I doubt Schafer is going anywhere.

If they have the balls to sit the fans golden boy they need to sit the other ones stinking it up.

Seriously. either we re-haul our lineup or we have a firesale. plain and simple. we wont get by tolerating mediocrity.

Schafer is not cutting it. DEF or not he isnt cutting it he is a liability and in fact the last two games he has taken bad routes all over the place.

I would rather have less range in CF, More in LF and keep FYF than continue with this crap.

Ankiel and Willingham need to be our CF and LF. end of discussion.

Our bullpen will hopefully be better with Campillo and Acosta but our offense is terrible.

Ankiel and Willingham? Come on, they aren’t worth what they’d cost.

The sad part is now we have to overpay to get people to play in Atlanta

Both of their values are down it woudnt be that hard. the nats want some arms and we have some to spare.

Oh yea and they aren’t that good.

really? ok . .

Ankiel: .247/.323/.400
Willingham: .228/.355/.465

Nothing to write home about. Ankiel isn’t worth much and Willingham while he is a decent bat, he isn’t the impact bat we need and not worth the price tag.

right . . . sure wish our OF had numbers like that.

How about their XBH

3 more fail in the 7th

Well, that’s all I’m willing to give them of my life tonight.

Slumber awaits…… nite all.

me toooo….night everybody

Get you some well deserved rest tonight!

Make a Prediction

Will Escobar ground into more double plays than FYF gets extra base hits

This team sucks. That is all.

This is what the Spainards call el terrible.

The last 3 games, one stupid inning has screwed us over

whine, whine, whine

whine, whine, whine

I can’t take you people anymore.

What do you want us to say, this team is playing like shit right now.

Another good start from Lowe, 7 innings, 3 ER

These were the days.

5/28/06

The Cubs scored four in the bottom of the ninth to tie the game, but lost in 11 innings, 13-12, when a popup bounced off Aramis Ramirez’s head. The wind was blowing out at Wrigley and the Braves set a team record with eight home runs, including two each by Chicago native Adam LaRoche and Edgar Renteria. The Cubs hit none.

I remember watching that game

Haren stumbled, might have rolled his ankle.

Ha, Haren fell down throwing the ball and Schafer still swung at it.

he throws one down the middle and he doesnt swing

Our 6-7-8 hitters are batting .167.

on the year?

I think over the last 20 games or something like that. I forget the length of time.

they are so good. . . man i love those bottom guys . . . you know FYF, Schafer. just drives in all the runs

you cant win games when 1/3 of your line up are not major league quality hitters… simply is not going to happen

YES KJ!!

Isnt it sad that we have to wait till the lineup rolls over

This just in, Lebron James is money.

He is unbe-freakin-lieveable

you see that he scored or assisted on 32 straight points.

That shouldn’t be possible

yeah, I don’t know, dude is some kind of savage.

Can we trade FYF for him?

He would be a massive RF

Lebron would at least walk more

The other day I played softball against Matt Barnes from the Suns, he could hit like a MoFo

I’m pretty sure he could play TE in the NFL.

Koth singles Kelly in, 5-2.

Ah well, we tried

Right down the middle. GD

hopefully their closer has a brad lidge moment

is it just me or does GA not seem to care when he is going after those balls

My name is Garrett Anderson and I don’t run on TV.

I love Boog. “Where are ya goin?”

WTF? Was it just the stream that slowed down or did Boog’s voice lower a few octaves?

I think this is the best uniform combination tonight: the classic grey with the new all navy hat. What about ya’ll?

I like the blue jerseys, though I am probably in the minority

it’s definately cool as shit

I like the red but with a different cap

From Keith Law’s chat:

James (LA): You’re leaning draft, but you are always down to take a shot at the horrible right fielder in Atlanta. When are they going to get rid of him?!?!?!

SportsNation Keith Law: They tried to get him to leave, but they told him to “take a walk,” and he was just hopelessly confused.

Wow so their whole Infield just turned into supermen

GA was safe at first!

“You know what, there are thirty teams in baseball and I’d be honored to play for any of them…”

well, get the fuck out

I heard that comment and thought the same thing……but could we be so lucky??

The Babe is up. He will hit a homer.

so. . . . . . yea . . goodnight

K to end the game by FYF. May it be his last in a Braves uniform.

Frenchy strikes out to end the game!

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