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Open Thread 5/22: Blue Jays @ Braves

Sweet, we get to play the best team in baseball tonight in our first interleague matchup of the season. AND we get throw arguably our worst starting pitcher (so far this season) against one of the best pitchers in baseball.

How do we have a losing record at home? If we just broke even at home we would be leading the dvision by like 2 games. Maybe tonight is the night we start to turn this around. Maybe tonight is the night Kawakami rediscovers his command!

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Chipper is out with a sore toe.

Acosta up, Parr down

How’s Acosta been playing lately at AAA?

2.86 ERA, still walking guys

What's his WHIP?

1.27

Better than Parr!
Could be worse

Tarp just went onto the field.

Any chance this gets in tonight?

RH says its not raining too hard

Better question:
If we get rained out, will we miss Halladay

He’d probably just get pushed back a day

Maybe tonight is the night that Halladay pulls a Hampton and breaks himself warming up!

Just realized this game isn’t in Toronto, means that I really overshot my attendance pick.

I haven’t been here since last Sunday – I see we split the series with Colorado, and now we have guys on the DL.

I’ll read some of the other posts, but anyone care to sum up the last week for us in a nutshell?

Offense is either awesome or sucks. Same goes for the pitching.

Thanks bigjoe – I see things are just as they were before.

(did ya think y’all had gotten rid of me?)

NCChopper

Missed you, happy to see you back on her!

here not her fail

HeyJude
Thanks a bunch. :-)

Weather doesn’t look too bad on the radar:

ACTIVE RADAR – ATLANTA

HAHAHAHA

Did you see Prado’s high five with KK?

no

please describe

so he did this high five twice really quick, then did the stereotypical asian bow with his hands together, and Kensin did it back. I rolled.

Screw that, did you see the AJC article today saying that KK bought one of Bow Wow’s old mansions, and a Maserati?

I saw that one

I wonder if he even knows whos crib he lives in or what he was doing.

What a stud… I like him more after reading that

link please?

http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2009/05/21/infante-out-it-couldve-been-worse/

♦ Livin’ large: Kawakami hasn’t quite lived up to expectations yet, but the dude’s livin’ large. First, he bought a mansion in the north Atlanta suburbs that had belonged to rapper Bow Wow. And last week, Kawakami bought a black Maserati.
  Anyone who’s met Kawakami and talked to him (albeit through a translator, as K.K. speaks very little English) would probably smile while conjuring an image of this seemingly shy, soft-spoken Japanese pitcher living in Bow Wow’s old crib and driving a shiny new Maserati.
  "Yeah, he’s straight gangsta," reliever Peter Moylan said of Kawakami. (Moylan was smiling when he said that.)
Tarp coming off. Game start 8:00

In the interim, I’m going to continue to watch college womens lacrosse

My condolences

At least you guys

haven’t been sitting around all afternoon (since 1 CST) waiting on a damn C-5 to take off…and are STILL waiting…

Did you realize: The Braves’ 9-4 record since May 6 is the best in the NL East in that span, followed by the Mets (9-6), Phillies (7-7), Marlins (4-10) and Nationals (4-11).

No! Makes me feel a little bit better!

start yet?

Starting now

Just now. 8:05 pm

finally some quick outs by KK

Niiiiice quick first inning for KK.

Perfect inning? wtf

Kotchman in the 2 hole I like

Anderson in the 3 hole wtf!!!

Chipper is out, do you have a better solution?

Yeah Prado, His slug is higher then any brave why not. Anderson hasn’t hit for much power.

If he’s gonna get pitches like that out pitch to GA all night, we have no chance.

LOLLL AT fire wren sign!

There you go Heap

NU allows the go ahead goal with 10 seconds left in OT…they win the faceoff, take the ball 50 yards, and score to tie it as time expires. God bless womens college lacrosse

That pitch was filthy

The call was filthy, the pitch almost hit him.

Yeah but the cut on that pitch deserved a strike

I tend to think a pitch only deserves a strike when it goes over the plate.

It was close enough is what i am saying, that pitch was nasty

I replayed it a couple of times, I don’t think it got near the plate. It was practically in the batter’s box when it went by KJ, it was breaking in, but the catcher caught it and moved his glove over after the catch to make it look better than it was.

How did we get men on the corners? I just tuned in

Your mom.

Kotchman singled, Heap single on a looper that was dove for and went off his flove

halladay over 25 pitches correct?

On the button.

We’re going to SUDDEN VICTORY in Towson…awwwwwwwwesome

Who is this guy pitching? What did he do with KK?

I thought this Jays team was patient?

Over/under pitches Francoeur sees: 4

Why does Bobby just flat refuse to call the steal?

Becasue we have no one on our team that can steal?

We have no speed

NORTHWESTERN WINS AND THE STRIVE FOR FIVE IS ALIVE

FYF should have swung at the first one this time

strike right down the middle

Mmmmmmmmmm…ballpark food…

halliday looks like he is laboring

or is that just me?

btw, 50Ks for Schafer now.

I feel for the Kid

some guy on the link just said halladay isnt on a pitch count and might throw 150 pitches

that would be super-retarded

if Toronto’s manager does that

he's not been known to be overly cautious with halladay

I praise the Braves for not giving players the option of rejecting trades, and now I see why after watching the Padres. Kevin Towers has got to be kicking his self!

Pardon my french, but

Kevin Towers is a fucking fool

When was the last time that the Braves actually attempted to trade the sort of guy might have a NTC and had more than a few months left on his deal?

AL has the big edge in interplay, the hitting of an NL pitcher doesn’t come close to the advantage the AL teams get from having a regular DH on their squad.

KK is looking more like the pitcher I thought we were getting!

+1
He also deserved better than the really late time call too.
A guy could get hurt like that.

my thoughts exactly on the time out call

The Ricky Nolasco experiment is over.

2 IP, 8 H, 8 ER, 1 BB, 2 K. ERA: 9.07

KK is flat nasty tonight

Nice play ODARP

windows media link...

mms://shared.streamwebtown.com/mlbballers

Where is everyone tonight?

Am I the only one staying in on a rainy night watching the Braves?

it seems theres about 5-6 of us

They are missing good pitching by KK

Lazy Friday night, watching the Braves.

Not many of us, but quality is better than quantity… ;-)

Not bad FUGA

DID YALL SEE THEM WHEELSSSSSSSSSSS

nice mac! 1st and 2nd no outs

we need to take advantage of this…

None out. Come on

Bobby and the bunts

a totally wasted at bat thanks to the bunt attempt

we’re lucky that wasn’t caught

Kelly looks foolish

How so? The idiot manager puts the bunt on, gets him two strikes, then the ump gives another ridiculous strike call.

Halladay is gonna get those calls.

Then there’s absolutely nothing you can do about it.

Jesus that one was framed!!

At least he moved the runners

2 outs, 2nd and 3rd...

how can frenchy fuck this up?

alphabetical or chronological?

He cant he wont I have faith in him

two in scoring position for FYC

The C better stand for cocksucker

That pitch was in the dirt.

Frenchy you suck so bad
FUCKING HELL NO MORE FRANCOUER PLEASE

THIS MADNESS MUST END

Chip Carey is a pretty terrible announcer.

His toe tap is back, he tapped like six taps before he swung, we cant trade him we wont get anything, were better off keeping him!

just send the motherfucker to the fucking minors… fuck his feelings…. he’s getting paid almost 4 mil to be one of the worst players in baseball.

We can’t afford to keep him in our line up, he’s losing us Games on offense and defense!

Shakes head – screams vulgarity – wonders WHY I continue to do this.

It’s kind of difficult to pick on one guy for hitting poorly when the team is so bad offensively.

Lets pick on the worst guy, shall we?

Who is the worst on the team of regular starters with RISP?

Who cares about average with RISP?

And just for the hell of it…

Among starters, its Francoeur. Hilarious.

Oh wait, Anderson. In 14 PA

Is that a testament to Frenchy’s worth or the failure of the rest?

He’s at .271, with probably one walk

Jeff Francoeur

AVG=OBP, right?

how good is Toronto’s bullpen?

Scott Downs is filthy.

KK must be well rested in that new mansion

KK saved his best game of the year against Halliday? I probably would have traded this for a separate start. I’m just sayin’

I bet...

KK is going to be everyone’s favorite player…

chip says

that teams who focus on working the count and having a high OBP don’t win WS titles.

awesome.

*facepalm*

i dig joe simpson and his homer-esque tendencies, but his “old school” adherence to shit like batting average and rbi’s and calling bullshit on defensive metrics and OBP is pretty tired.

I understand people having problems with defensive metrics, as they can be rather complex. Stuff like OBP and RBI are just simple matters of logic that should be easy enough to grasp.

is chip’s only qualification the fact that he’s related to a Carey?

Thats all you really need in life sir, is to know people!

positive

kawakami is fuckin’ dealing.

he needs to hit one out of the park.

+10
We need to give him some support…. NOW.

YES

Is Ryan closing for the Jays right now? Who do we need to worry about in the pen besides Downs

KK K's Barajas

God that just rolls right off the tongue soooo well

KK is earning some of his pay tonight!

I hope people realize KK is a pretty good pitcher and with the exception of one awful start, has been at least decent in every start.

if dude would just cut down on the walks (which i’m sure he’ll eventually do on a consistent basis, given his stellar control in japan), i think he’ll be just fine

Schafer bunting. I love it.

KK helps himself since nobody else will

Looked like a little leaguer there

Halladay can do that to the best, I hate that he is pitching against us but its been a joy watching a great pitcher like this

Absolutely.

I just hope we can tag him at least once. Next inning is our best shot at Halladay

i understand the idea behind "small ball" and all

but why does bobby basically lay down and play scared anytime we face a dominant pitcher?

It is his way.

additionally

for a guy that is so renowned as a “player’s manager”, he obviously has no confidence whatsoever in kelly johnson.

which is bizarre.

Which when juxtaposed with his fervent devotion to Jeff Francoeur, looks even more bizzare.

KJ is also a very good bunter.

I’m not sure bobby’s behind the lay down and play scared thing… I think that’s just a natural aspect of this current lineup.

bobby is always trying to lay down bunts against great pitchers early in games in misguided attempts to try and eek out runs to gain a small lead.

or he’ll play the infield in when the other team has a one run lead very early in the game.

he’s been doing stuff like that for years.

So Chip and Joe are talking we could give Randy Johnson his 300th?

How grand.

If he wins, he'll probably throw another perfecto against us.

Hmm… gameday called the pitch that KK struck Barajas out with a change up, but it looked like a shuuto to me

That was nasty KK

That curve is a thing of beauty tonight.
That [insert any pitch KK has thrown] is a thing of beauty tonight
KK makes Scutaro looks ridiculous

looks like Scutaro is questioning everything after that pitch

Another shuuto

KK with the KKK

Ive always wanted to say that

and by KKK, i mean 3 K’s, not well, you get the idea….

facepalm

I’m thrilled you could.
Great job so far by KK.

God KK is good tonight!

KK is matching Hallady pitch for pitch….. this is great to watch.

KK… your NL Cy Young winner

So...

who wants to move KK to the pen?

FUDGE.
Thought Koch had one there.

with no wind, he probably does
OK FUGA

howabout a HR…remember what those are?

Time to get KK some runs!

I want him going up there for the DOWns!!

LOL

mac trying to bunt

Come on HEAP….!

9 walks in 73.2 innings. HOLY FUCK

MAC WITH A STEAL

HaHaHa Heap stealing.

Speed demon….

Brian McCann is our steals leader!!!

=]

that is a sad stat for the Braves…..

I should have mentioned that in my interview today.

OK Kelly – it’s TIME to come through.

if he strikes out on a 2 seamer one more time

ill probably cry.

That is effing awful our leader in steals only has two

and it’s our catcher! God help us!

love it! Go heap Go!

Brian McCann tied for team lead in steals. Thats unacceptable

FUCK

so close

You know its bad when our once over weight catcher leads our team in steals.

Kelly slowed down with those choppy steps there, damn

what happened???

Kelly hit a slow grounder and he must have mistimed his footsteps, he was kinda in between and had to slow down and take short, choppy steps before the bag. I think he could’ve beat it out.

the run wouldn’t have scored on the play anyway.

yeah and FYF is up next so its not like we woulda scored..

It’s Prado

it’s painful to watch this team on offense.

Its Halladay. Tonight, it's not really our fault

I agree… it’s more of a general statement

The ability to get a hit with RISP seems mighty important right now.
(and LACK thereof)

its all good

Kenshin Fucking Kawakami is dealing!!!

But now i say that, bring on a 6 run inning.

you knock on wood, sir!
i just did

took my pants off. =]

Damn. I snorted on that one mv

Holy hell

I’m late to this party… Who is this guy and what has he done with KK?

BREAKING NEWS

Kenshin Kawakami tests positive for steroids. Out 50 games.

Yeah, that would just be our luck wouldnt it?

With the way he is pitching all we needed was one

not the fucking wave

jesus christ, braves fans

it probably scared KK

Don Sutton pretty much poisoned me forever on the wave.

Are we 15 innings w/o a run?

I’m thinking KK is getting comfortable with the MLB baseball, that control we heard about is showing up.

This is the PERFECT night to show it.

This game is going into the 8th inning and its only been played for 1hr and 45 mins thus far

top of the 7th my bad

KK is channeling maddux

PLEA to the Offense: Can we PLEASE get KK a run?

Can’t be too mad at them, they are facing Halladay

I wouldn’t be so frustrated if we hadn’t had so many in scoring position and left them there.

Facing cook and Halladay back to back Jesus

Does KK have one left in him??

Only 90 pitches, I’d send him out

ditto

pitching great, might have extras. gotta send him

Frenchy and Schafer up:

Over/Under 5% chance of getting a hit?

I hear alot of boos for frenchy are we in Philly

See if Frenchy can take one out of here...

HAH

he sucks so much, its not even funny anymore

FYF FUCKING LACES ONE
HOLY SHIT!!!

I just pissed purple.

Ignorance alert: Can someone explain….

What the Over/Under I keep reading here are related to and mean?

An over/under is a betting thing, a number is given and you bet whether the result will be over or under, a percentage doesn’t really apply to over/under.

SMALL BALL MOTHERFUCKERS

Yeah I think they heard all of us bitching about no stealing

god i hope so
Nice Frenchy!

You did something right!!!

not anymore

jesus christ. FML

Talk about bad fucking luck

UFC Unleashed online is so ridiculously fun

AAAAAAAAAND FAIL

EFF WHY EFF BABY

Damn, damn, damn.

i sense a run coming…

i sense you arent watching the braves game.

=/

So, Frenchy taking base running lessons from Escobar I see.

can’t really blame him for that

that’s truly terrible luck

what happened??

After Frenchy stole 2nd, Logan lined out and Frenchy got doubled off

Get this prick out of Atlanta plz ty. Cut his ass, I don’t care.

FYF Dumb Ass!

how is the inning over!?

schafer lined out to first; double play on frenchy at 2nd.

shit.

The bright side of that DP

KK pitches another inning.

aaand as soon as i post that, rolen doubles

just in time to give up a double.

then that happens… I almost don’t have to watch the rest of this game.

How long does Bobby keep him in

If he doesn’t get the next guy out, pull him

Here we are again with our pitchers with no room for error.

that was maddux-esque

tell me it wasn’t

definitely was

NICE PLAY KK!

KK is dealing

for the record

i’d totally walk barajas

Yeah, Joe had a good point. Set up the DP, get Roy out of the game …

Make them make a decision at the very least.

Shit my heart just fell out my chest

kk’s pitches are starting to get a bunch of plate

I almost had a heart attack there

You gotta give him that pitch ump

Gave it to Halladay on KJ

damn fine pitch there

Yes fucking Yes

YES! NO MORE ROY

Bring in Eric O

Who’s likely for the Jays in the 8th and 9th?

No keep in KK he deserves to get through this inning

Plus he is due up next

KK probably has no idea what happened during the meeting on the mound.

haha

“why does this guy always walk to the mound with his hands in the back of his pockets?”

i'm not one to usually bitch about umps

but this guy’s zone is smaller for kk

un mas kawakami san

ONE MORE OUT@!

Wow 103 pitches tonight for KK just 34 balls thats what I call control bitch

thats fucking impressive.
that must be what we're paying 8.5 million for

funny. i never realized it until tonight!

I like seeing his emotion tonight too.
He’s fired up.

NIIICEEE!!! THE HOOOOOK

Do you LOVE it or do you LOVE it!!!???

FUCK YA

thata baby. do the kawakami dance everybody!

KK IS THE MAN

God, He's Good!

That was nasty as shit I like this kid, I bet whoever had that fire Wren sign got punched cuz he looks like a genius tonight!

What a great pitching duel……..this is the KK we have been waiting to see

get some runs for the man!

Hopefully, this will also give him a big confidence boost for next time.

Aside from FYF, even if we lose I would still chalk tonight up as a win.

anyone have a scouting report on the Jays bullpen?

i know a few guys are hurt but thats it…

8 IP, 3 H, 0 ER, 0 BB, 7 K

Who would’ve thought Kawakami would have better stats than Halladay?

He’s the River Emperor.

WHERE WAS THIS VERSION OF KK BEFORE???

I really think the ball was bothering him

Take a curtain call KK

Im having an orgasm thinking about a rotation of Lowe, JJ, JV, Hudson and KK in August

haha do w/e you'll do, but thats true we do have some nasty nasty pitchers, if our offense would producee...
thata boy!

MATT DIAZ STRIKES AGAIN.

Shouldn’t he come up to bat to “Lean Back”?

hahaha

definitely

Tomahawk chop …. and singing….. it’s TIME.

MATTYD IS THE MAN

Do we see bunt here

I hope so

Note to Bobby, Diaz rakes lefties, never start GAnderson vs. lefties

I was talking about big girls with my buddy on XBL and got KOed in 20 seconds. What the fuck

come on esco

ill pay for your next highlight treatment at your favorite salon if you get him in.

(what happened with Matty?) a HR?

Shoulda been a triple but it went over the fence

GOOD BOY YUNEL

CMMON KOTCH YOU GOT THIS

Just the guy I want up

Thank god, he inside outed it the other way

Koch….can do it.

C’mon Klutchman

21533…. hmm I was low on that.

Yeah baby now who closes!!

YESSSSSSSSSSS

Good job Kotchy

We need more than 1 run with our bullpen coming in!

Klutch!!!!!!

did you see the huge smile on KK’s face? WONDERFUL

CASEEEEEEEY

Raffy or Gonzo?

my bet is on Gonzo, but i guess its more of the lefty righty matchups

I would go with Soriano, the next 3 are all righties

Casey at the motherfucking bat
YES!

dont show pictures of my son on here.

You sure that is a guy?

yes

its my son!

gonzo.

if you dont get the save, myself and everyone else on this message board will beat you until you cant take a piss anymore.

Lately, I have this hopeful, but uneasy feeling when he takes the mound.

He makes me nervous too!

I don’t trust gonzo

Bobby better bring in Raffy at the first sign of trouble
Wanted to stop by to say one thing:

MATTY D > *

dos mas

senor gonzalez.

GIVE IT UP FOR SAMURAI KEN, EVERYBODY!

Way to earn your paycheck tonight, brotherman.

One down…

oh my god

here we go.

there’s the Gonzo 9th inning double

Cmon Gonzo, lets shut em down

what does Cox have against Raffy?

especially with all the righties up

That slider was nasty

jesus

my heart skipped like 9 beats there

Your resting heart rate might be a little too high.

thats what i get for watching the 2009 atlanta braves.

Ok Gonzo lets get a K here

Drama. Always drama.

Is it me or were Mac and Gonzo’s faces really close there?

good game- knew we would get a win tonight…. :)

Bury a slider here Gonzo

Prado almost killed me

Best Game this year!

HOLY FUCK!!!

AHHHHHHHHHHHHH THANK FUCKING GOD

holly fuck what a way to end this game I love it. Well worth it my fellow fans!!!

i think i just had a mini heart attack

what happened?

Just following on Gameday……

Slow grounder to Prado, he kicks it in the air, guns it to first and gets him by a step

scariest play i've ever seen.

kotch had a hell of a stretch too.

he also threw it low, and Kotchman had to dig it out

prado bobbled the grounder but still made the play at first

OH MY GOD! I think I just had a heart attack

Does Chipper make that play?

Chipper doesn’t botch it to begin with

idk

his defense has been shit lately.

chipper batted for the cycle and cured aids

Are you kidding? Chipper is oen of the best at coming in on the ball.

i know

but this year he;s had a few more errors than usual. but who gives a F? prado made it anyways!

He’s made a few errors, but not on plays like that. He’s also made some great plays recently, taking away doubles and throwing the runner out from his knees.

OMG. Koch and Prado deserve a steak dinner courtesy of Gonzo.

Prado gets a steak for almost botching the play?

For sticking with one and keeping his wits to FINISH the play.

Good for him and all, but saying that Gonzo should buy him a steak is implying that he bailed Gonzo out, when, in actuality, he was bailing himself out.

That’s one way to look at it, and a valid point.

We could also say that Prado/Koch bailed Gonzo out for giving up the double and having to pitch with a guy on 3rd with a 1 run lead.

PRADO!!!

i love you.

Holy fucking hell what a great game!

Kawakami outpitches the best pitcher in baseball. A hit with two productive out to score the only run of the game.

ok, time to leave for Cali

LETS GOOO BRAVES.

Nite all. It’s been REAL!

Thank goodness we started this series with a WIN (at home).

And, handed Toronto their first shutout this year.

BRAVES WIN! BRAVES WIN! BRAVES WIN!

Why did the last play have to be like that

Why couldn’t it be a routine K

Don't think anybody was expecting a W tonite....

I’m glad Ken finally brought the stuff I was seeing in spring training. Great game.

that is a game

That we wouldn’t have won in ’08 or ’07

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